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Post by Supersonic on Aug 30, 2021 11:52:30 GMT -5
Lord Don't Slow Me Down should NEVER have been classed as a single as it sounds like an out and out demo and that's the way it should have stayed. Sunday Morning Call has been and is treated awfully by Noel and the Oasis team and his disdain for the song that has some of his best and personal lyrics in it is typified by it almost not featuring on Time Flies. You've Got The Heart of a Star SHOULD have been a Christmas single. Heathen Chemistry is NOT the awful album people make it out to be and songs like HIABP, PAITM and even SIL are actually quite a good listen when you play the album in full. RNRS is the 4th best album opener. Where Did It All Go Wrong and Sunday Morning Call should have been a double A-Side. |
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Post by walterglass on Sept 4, 2021 18:36:11 GMT -5
I’ve heard DLBIA far too many times far too often.
It’s starting to make me nauseous in a Candle In The Wind kinda way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 20:43:06 GMT -5
Me too and I don't think that it's as bad as people make it out to be. Every time PAITM is played an Oasis fan fades away………………… That's why it's never played. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 20:46:30 GMT -5
I’ve heard DLBIA far too many times far too often. It’s starting to make me nauseous in a Candle In The Wind kinda way. Living in the UK I presume ? It's one of the priviledges of not being a british Oasis fan, you don't hear the stuff that much outside of your will, so when it does come out on the radio/TV at some point, it's always a cool surprise. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 4, 2021 22:14:57 GMT -5
Live Forever is just okay.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Sept 4, 2021 23:37:36 GMT -5
Keep the Dream Alive is amazing.
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Post by Thedaftstrangler on Sept 14, 2021 19:31:12 GMT -5
Sunday morning call is worse than Put Yer Money where yer mouth is
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Post by PepsiNebula on Sept 14, 2021 21:02:54 GMT -5
Sunday morning call is worse than Put Yer Money where yer mouth is PYMWYMI might be my second favorite track on the album, and the first isn't SMC, so yes, I agree! |
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Post by Aman on Sept 15, 2021 4:06:04 GMT -5
Sunday morning call is worse than Put Yer Money where yer mouth is Yeah it probably is tbh. SMC deserves to be put into the category of ICSAL, LJ and PYMWYMI. Damn there's some shit on SOTSOG. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 15, 2021 12:57:17 GMT -5
Sunday Morning Call my not be one of the best songs on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants but it's better than I Can See A Liar and Little James at least.
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Post by Headmaster on Sept 15, 2021 13:17:20 GMT -5
Sunday Morning Call works when you're in the mood for it I guess, and it sounds good when the album is being played.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 16, 2021 15:15:03 GMT -5
I'd say Sunday Morning Call is bang average. Nothing notable about it at all: the verses are pretty enough but the chorus feels like a long road to nowhere. Production is fine, but there's nothing too great going on there either. Lyrically it beats out a lot of Oasis tunes, but doesn't have the emotional hook that Noel's best writing offers.
In a better patch of tunes, it'd be a fine-enough album track or b-side. That it was pushed as a single for SOTSOG shows how much that period was ham-stringed by a dearth of potential hits. Same with Who Feels Love.
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Post by jezza2 on Sept 16, 2021 16:18:11 GMT -5
I'd say Sunday Morning Call is bang average. Nothing notable about it at all: the verses are pretty enough but the chorus feels like a long road to nowhere. Production is fine, but there's nothing too great going on there either. Lyrically it beats out a lot of Oasis tunes, but doesn't have the emotional hook that Noel's best writing offers. In a better patch of tunes, it'd be a fine-enough album track or b-side. That it was pushed as a single for SOTSOG shows how much that period was ham-stringed by a dearth of potential hits. Same with Who Feels Love. I agree for the most part. The problem is I don't know if any others songs can become singles on that record except Go Let It Out, Who Feel's Love? and Gas Panic! Maybe Roll It Over. I think not making Gas Panic! a single was a massive mistake. |
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 16, 2021 16:31:03 GMT -5
I'd say Sunday Morning Call is bang average. Nothing notable about it at all: the verses are pretty enough but the chorus feels like a long road to nowhere. Production is fine, but there's nothing too great going on there either. Lyrically it beats out a lot of Oasis tunes, but doesn't have the emotional hook that Noel's best writing offers. In a better patch of tunes, it'd be a fine-enough album track or b-side. That it was pushed as a single for SOTSOG shows how much that period was ham-stringed by a dearth of potential hits. Same with Who Feels Love. I agree for the most part. The problem is I don't know if any others songs can become singles on that record except Go Let It Out, Who Feel's Love? and Gas Panic! Maybe Roll It Over. I think not making Gas Panic! a single was a massive mistake. Even that is clutching at straws - Gas Panic is a strong tune, but it's a dark, six-minute track about the nightmares of drugs. Not exactly Radio One material. And it's not as if Oasis turned into a prog-rock band in 2000, there was just a real dry run of singles. That's why I always feel like they should've waited a year or two more before returning. Let the legacy of the nineties run settle, and only hit back into the public eye when you have the new sound and the singles to match. |
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Sept 17, 2021 0:58:06 GMT -5
Sunday morning call is worse than Put Yer Money where yer mouth is PYMWYMI might be my second favorite track on the album, and the first isn't SMC, so yes, I agree! This would be a great one to poll. |
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Post by Aman on Sept 17, 2021 3:44:08 GMT -5
I agree for the most part. The problem is I don't know if any others songs can become singles on that record except Go Let It Out, Who Feel's Love? and Gas Panic! Maybe Roll It Over. I think not making Gas Panic! a single was a massive mistake. Even that is clutching at straws - Gas Panic is a strong tune, but it's a dark, six-minute track about the nightmares of drugs. Not exactly Radio One material. And it's not as if Oasis turned into a prog-rock band in 2000, there was just a real dry run of singles. That's why I always feel like they should've waited a year or two more before returning. Let the legacy of the nineties run settle, and only hit back into the public eye when you have the new sound and the singles to match. Yeah, if I was an Oasis fan when SOTSOG was released I would've been deflated. Listened to the album again a month back or so and some great songs of course but it's a pretty average album really. The run from 3-9 is a slog to get through despite GP and WDIAGW being there. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 17, 2021 13:22:00 GMT -5
The best songs on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants are
Fuckin' In The Bushes
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love (although the live version is much better than the album one)
Gas Panic
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
Roll It Over
The rest are pretty poor although I'd take Sunday Morning Call over the rest of the remaining songs on that album.
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Post by oasisgoletitout on Sept 17, 2021 13:28:53 GMT -5
Where Did It All Go Wrong? is underrated.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 17, 2021 13:29:59 GMT -5
Where Did It All Go Wrong? is underrated. Fully agree as it's a top tune. |
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Post by The Chief on Sept 26, 2021 11:08:14 GMT -5
Two things that I've been thinking for a long time and now, just after watching the Knebworth documentary, I have to say it.
Number one, Noel was mad giving up one of his most epic guitar solos to John Squire at Knebworth (talking about Champagne Supernova of course). And number two, one of the reasons why I think he was mad (you know other than playing a brilliant guitar solo at a historical concert) is that John Squire did nothing good with it. His solo is ridiculous. And it's not even Jay Mehler's D'You Know What I Mean guitar solo level of ridiculous, it's worst than that! He's just moving his fingers around. That's it. It's not good, it's not clever and it doesn't fit the song. He's getting a pass because he's John Squire. But he would have rightfully gotten panned had he been any other Tom, Dick and Harry.
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Post by matt on Sept 26, 2021 12:32:11 GMT -5
Two things that I've been thinking for a long time and now, just after watching the Knebworth documentary, I have to say it. Number one, Noel was mad giving up one of his most epic guitar solos to John Squire at Knebworth (talking about Champagne Supernova of course). And number two, one of the reasons why I think he was mad (you know other than playing a brilliant guitar solo at a historical concert) is that John Squire did nothing good with it. His solo is ridiculous. And it's not even Jay Mehler's D'You Know What I Mean guitar solo level of ridiculous, it's worst than that! He's just moving his fingers around. That's it. It's not good, it's not clever and it doesn't fit the song. He's getting a pass because he's John Squire. But he would have rightfully gotten panned had he been any other Tom, Dick and Harry. Second Coming was evidence of Squire having his head firmly up his own arse. It's no surprise he went all self-indulgent fret wankery and ruined Champagne Supernova. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 26, 2021 13:06:52 GMT -5
Two things that I've been thinking for a long time and now, just after watching the Knebworth documentary, I have to say it. Number one, Noel was mad giving up one of his most epic guitar solos to John Squire at Knebworth (talking about Champagne Supernova of course). And number two, one of the reasons why I think he was mad (you know other than playing a brilliant guitar solo at a historical concert) is that John Squire did nothing good with it. His solo is ridiculous. And it's not even Jay Mehler's D'You Know What I Mean guitar solo level of ridiculous, it's worst than that! He's just moving his fingers around. That's it. It's not good, it's not clever and it doesn't fit the song. He's getting a pass because he's John Squire. But he would have rightfully gotten panned had he been any other Tom, Dick and Harry. I haven't watched the Knebworth documentary as I'm waiting for the dvd. But I agree what was Noel thinking of letting John Square take the lead on Champagne Supernova epic solo at the bands Oasis's biggest concerts ever? And, I wonder if Noel actually regrets that now. |
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Post by The Chief on Sept 26, 2021 15:59:42 GMT -5
Two things that I've been thinking for a long time and now, just after watching the Knebworth documentary, I have to say it. Number one, Noel was mad giving up one of his most epic guitar solos to John Squire at Knebworth (talking about Champagne Supernova of course). And number two, one of the reasons why I think he was mad (you know other than playing a brilliant guitar solo at a historical concert) is that John Squire did nothing good with it. His solo is ridiculous. And it's not even Jay Mehler's D'You Know What I Mean guitar solo level of ridiculous, it's worst than that! He's just moving his fingers around. That's it. It's not good, it's not clever and it doesn't fit the song. He's getting a pass because he's John Squire. But he would have rightfully gotten panned had he been any other Tom, Dick and Harry. I haven't watched the Knebworth documentary as I'm waiting for the dvd. But I agree what was Noel thinking of letting John Square take the lead on Champagne Supernova epic solo at the bands Oasis's biggest concerts ever? And, I wonder if Noel actually regrets that now. Yeah I don't think it was worth watching it in a movie theater. The mix between the fan interviews and the music is bad. So the music is really loud, which is cool, but then when people talk you can't hear most of them. And the sound comes from the front only so it's not as immersive as I thought it would be. |
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Post by glider on Sept 26, 2021 16:54:50 GMT -5
Two things that I've been thinking for a long time and now, just after watching the Knebworth documentary, I have to say it. Number one, Noel was mad giving up one of his most epic guitar solos to John Squire at Knebworth (talking about Champagne Supernova of course). And number two, one of the reasons why I think he was mad (you know other than playing a brilliant guitar solo at a historical concert) is that John Squire did nothing good with it. His solo is ridiculous. And it's not even Jay Mehler's D'You Know What I Mean guitar solo level of ridiculous, it's worst than that! He's just moving his fingers around. That's it. It's not good, it's not clever and it doesn't fit the song. He's getting a pass because he's John Squire. But he would have rightfully gotten panned had he been any other Tom, Dick and Harry. Second Coming was evidence of Squire having his head firmly up his own arse. It's no surprise he went all self-indulgent fret wankery and ruined Champagne Supernova. I do enjoy Second Coming but his riffs on that album fit well. His solos at Knebworth are all over the place and unhinged unlike Weller's album solo which maintained exactly what the song needed. Alot of Squire's work with the Seahorses sounds like this as well - the Chris Helme track Hello off their first album just had Squire in the right channel with a off beat guitar riff that doesn't work. I never understood how listening to all of Led Zeppelin's catalogue had Squire just completely abandon his subtle dream-pop/funk style from the first late '80s/early '90s for good. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 27, 2021 4:57:45 GMT -5
Two things that I've been thinking for a long time and now, just after watching the Knebworth documentary, I have to say it. Number one, Noel was mad giving up one of his most epic guitar solos to John Squire at Knebworth (talking about Champagne Supernova of course). And number two, one of the reasons why I think he was mad (you know other than playing a brilliant guitar solo at a historical concert) is that John Squire did nothing good with it. His solo is ridiculous. And it's not even Jay Mehler's D'You Know What I Mean guitar solo level of ridiculous, it's worst than that! He's just moving his fingers around. That's it. It's not good, it's not clever and it doesn't fit the song. He's getting a pass because he's John Squire. But he would have rightfully gotten panned had he been any other Tom, Dick and Harry. I haven't watched the Knebworth documentary as I'm waiting for the dvd. But I agree what was Noel thinking of letting John Square take the lead on Champagne Supernova epic solo at the bands Oasis's biggest concerts ever? And, I wonder if Noel actually regrets that now. I agree it was bad, I think both Weller in the studio and Marr whenever he played it with Oasis/HFB did a much better job But I don't think Noel regrets it, he doesn't see himself as a lead guitarist and more importantly he had one of his heroes up there at the biggest gig of his life playing HIS song, that's the stuff of dreams |
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