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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 17:26:32 GMT -5
"Definitely Maybe" and "(What's The Story) Morning Glory ?" still sound great and fresh today. Morris production perfectly fitted those songs, he was the perfect producer for Oasis.
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Post by World71R on Nov 23, 2018 2:02:29 GMT -5
I actually always wondered what was the reason behind some of those songs sounding that bad. I mean i get the story that everybody was on coke during the recording of Be Here Now etc. but if you think about it, all the rocky distorted songs since DM to BHN included like Rock N Roll Star, Bring it On Down, Digsy's Dinner, Morning Glory, Some Might Say, Hey Now, etc. sound very trashy and sonically overkilled, even the remaster didn't help that much. I remember Noel saying once that when they recorded Morning Glory it sounded sonically perfect, but nowadays it's unlistenable, but the thing that does my head in is that those records aren't that old to age that badly in terms of sound. I mean Nevermind was done in 1991 and it sounds way better than Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe, in fact most of the records from the 90's sound sonically better than Oasis records. I wonder if Oasis always suffered from a lack of good producer or they couldn't transform the real sound of the band to the record any better than that ? Or did that sounded really kickass and loud in those days and then something happened to it ? Was that on purpose ? Was that Noel ? Was that not giving a fuck ? What was that ? I'll criticise a lot of Oasis production but even at their worst on DM/MG, the songs were clearer than My Big Mouth. Take Bring it on Down, maybe the best production on an Oasis rock song for me - the drums are pounding, the bass is clear and thick, and it doesn't lose any of it's riotous nature in the process. If only songs like My Big Mouth and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) had that same mix of clarity and passion.It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 23, 2018 2:49:34 GMT -5
I'll criticise a lot of Oasis production but even at their worst on DM/MG, the songs were clearer than My Big Mouth. Take Bring it on Down, maybe the best production on an Oasis rock song for me - the drums are pounding, the bass is clear and thick, and it doesn't lose any of it's riotous nature in the process. If only songs like My Big Mouth and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) had that same mix of clarity and passion.It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. I actually like what Whitey did on the drums for that track too - what I can hear of it, at least. Would love to have that pounding rhythm section brought out a little more. |
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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2018 7:28:45 GMT -5
Different Gear Still Speeding works far better as an album than Morning Glory. Being serious for a moment, you don’t really believe this surely? And if so why? |
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Post by funhouse on Nov 23, 2018 15:10:04 GMT -5
I'll criticise a lot of Oasis production but even at their worst on DM/MG, the songs were clearer than My Big Mouth. Take Bring it on Down, maybe the best production on an Oasis rock song for me - the drums are pounding, the bass is clear and thick, and it doesn't lose any of it's riotous nature in the process. If only songs like My Big Mouth and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) had that same mix of clarity and passion.It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. I have heard this quite a few times, and I had absolutely no idea that there were any keyboards on there ^^ The kind of knowledge that separates the real Oasis connoisseurs from the rest of us! |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 23, 2018 15:49:07 GMT -5
I'll criticise a lot of Oasis production but even at their worst on DM/MG, the songs were clearer than My Big Mouth. Take Bring it on Down, maybe the best production on an Oasis rock song for me - the drums are pounding, the bass is clear and thick, and it doesn't lose any of it's riotous nature in the process. If only songs like My Big Mouth and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) had that same mix of clarity and passion.It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. Noel hates the never-ending outro of It's Gettin' Better (Man!!). I've always disagreed. Noel has some pretty nice riffs, while Liam changes the tone of his refrain of "It's getting better man!" Always really enjoyed that outro. That track is easily one of the (many) highlights from BHN. And the build and guitar solo is one of my favorite Oasis moments. |
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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2018 17:52:15 GMT -5
It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. Noel hates the never-ending outro of It's Gettin' Better (Man!!). I've always disagreed. Noel has some pretty nice riffs, while Liam changes the tone of his refrain of "It's getting better man!" Always really enjoyed that outro. That track is easily one of the (many) highlights from BHN. And the build and guitar solo is one of my favorite Oasis moments. I agree. It’s over the top and in my opinion, a hidden gem in the Oasis back catalogue that fits in well with anything from the 90s era. |
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Post by World71R on Nov 23, 2018 23:24:54 GMT -5
It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. I have heard this quite a few times, and I had absolutely no idea that there were any keyboards on there ^^ The kind of knowledge that separates the real Oasis connoisseurs from the rest of us! Yes! It shows up very subtly, if you listen closely, but it sounds very good and adds a nice texture to the background and builds up the last part of the guitar solo well. The remaster does well to bring out a bit more. |
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Post by Derrick on Nov 24, 2018 14:20:36 GMT -5
It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) especially. There's some tasty keyboard work in the song, particularly at the end of the guitar solo, that doesn't get enough room to really breathe and show up in the mix with how loud everything else is. A re-think of that song would be good to hear. Noel hates the never-ending outro of It's Gettin' Better (Man!!). I've always disagreed. Noel has some pretty nice riffs, while Liam changes the tone of his refrain of "It's getting better man!" Always really enjoyed that outro. That track is easily one of the (many) highlights from BHN. And the build and guitar solo is one of my favorite Oasis moments. I love that outro, with Noel's great guitar licks. The song wouldn't be as perfectly epic without this outro. A highlight of "Be here now". |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 24, 2018 14:24:33 GMT -5
Noel hates the never-ending outro of It's Gettin' Better (Man!!). I've always disagreed. Noel has some pretty nice riffs, while Liam changes the tone of his refrain of "It's getting better man!" Always really enjoyed that outro. That track is easily one of the (many) highlights from BHN. And the build and guitar solo is one of my favorite Oasis moments. I love that outro, with Noel's great guitar licks. The song wouldn't be as perfectly epic without this outro. A highlight of "Be here now". Exactly. IGBM's outro isn't like the never-ending outro of The Boy With the Blues. It's Gettin Better (Man’s!!) outro is interesting, whereas TBWTB's is just repetitive for no reason whatsoever. Love IGBM!!! |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 24, 2018 16:46:04 GMT -5
There isn't a single non-acoustic Noel-sung Oasis song that wouldn't be improved by having Liam on vocals.
I have a feeling I've made this post before, but oh well, it's a good point.
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Post by Parka Flames on Nov 24, 2018 16:56:17 GMT -5
There isn't a single non-acoustic Noel-sung Oasis song that wouldn't be improved by having Liam on vocals. I have a feeling I've made this post before, but oh well, it's a good point. The Importance of Being Idle? I can't see Liam singing it well at all. Just not his style. |
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Post by wiol92 on Nov 24, 2018 17:00:03 GMT -5
The Importance of Being Idle is not his style at all, anyway I`d love to hear him singing Simple Game of Genius or You Know We Can`t Go Back.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 24, 2018 17:28:59 GMT -5
There isn't a single non-acoustic Noel-sung Oasis song that wouldn't be improved by having Liam on vocals. I have a feeling I've made this post before, but oh well, it's a good point. Nah, Noel owns DLBIA. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 24, 2018 17:37:02 GMT -5
There isn't a single non-acoustic Noel-sung Oasis song that wouldn't be improved by having Liam on vocals. I have a feeling I've made this post before, but oh well, it's a good point. The Importance of Being Idle? I can't see Liam singing it well at all. Just not his style. Okay, in 2005 I'll give you that one, but a mid-nineties Liam who still had his falsetto (a la She's Electric) would still improve it. And as for DLBIA, definitely should have been Liam. His vocals would cut through that instrumental so perfectly, and don't act like he wouldn't have nailed that opening "Slip insyyyyydddeeeeeee the eeeyeee of your myyyyy-eeee-nnnddd". I used to agree with people that thought Noel suited Noel's songs, but then someone on here said that there isn't a single Liam song anyone would want to give to Noel and that made me see it differently. If Liam (on good form) sings any non-acoustic Oasis song, no-one in their right mind is going to then want to give it to Noel. |
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Post by funhouse on Nov 24, 2018 17:55:12 GMT -5
There isn't a single non-acoustic Noel-sung Oasis song that wouldn't be improved by having Liam on vocals. I have a feeling I've made this post before, but oh well, it's a good point. Talk Tonight with Liam would have sounded a little weird I think. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 24, 2018 18:02:03 GMT -5
There isn't a single non-acoustic Noel-sung Oasis song that wouldn't be improved by having Liam on vocals. I have a feeling I've made this post before, but oh well, it's a good point. Talk Tonight with Liam would have sounded a little weird I think. Non-acoustic. |
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Post by funhouse on Nov 24, 2018 18:28:47 GMT -5
Talk Tonight with Liam would have sounded a little weird I think. Non-acoustic. Damn. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Nov 26, 2018 15:23:02 GMT -5
"Definitely Maybe" and "(What's The Story) Morning Glory ?" still sound great and fresh today. Morris production perfectly fitted those songs, he was the perfect producer for Oasis. I agree on Definitely Maybe, but I think Morning Glory sounds like shit except for a few songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow.
Anyway, another unpopular opinion: The Masterplan is a cheesy, Beatles-wanna-be shit song.
I'm the opposite, Morning Glory sounds really fresh and still sounds like it could have been released this year...whereas Definitely Maybe sounds like it was a product of 94 and some of the songs to e sound quite dated |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 26, 2018 15:52:09 GMT -5
I agree on Definitely Maybe, but I think Morning Glory sounds like shit except for a few songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow.
Anyway, another unpopular opinion: The Masterplan is a cheesy, Beatles-wanna-be shit song.
I'm the opposite, Morning Glory sounds really fresh and still sounds like it could have been released this year...whereas Definitely Maybe sounds like it was a product of 94 and some of the songs to e sound quite dated Agree. Can't really diss any of the production on (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, it's a truly wonderful pop-rock album. Definitely Maybe and Be Here Now, amazing as they both are, could benefit from a tasteful remix, at least on a handful of tracks each. |
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Post by matt on Nov 26, 2018 17:06:19 GMT -5
Talk Tonight with Liam would have sounded a little weird I think. Non-acoustic. This is always something I’ve thought of. What if that song, along with Half The World Away went full on brickwalling with Liam’s vocals? It worked for every other song from Noel, and I’m sure it would have with this. Hard to imagine I know but if I’d heard Slide Away or Listen Up in its acoustic version with Noel first of all, I wouldn’t imagine it being an all conquering rock song like they are. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 26, 2018 17:33:22 GMT -5
This is always something I’ve thought of. What if that song, along with Half The World Away went full on brickwalling with Liam’s vocals? It worked for every other song from Noel, and I’m sure it would have with this. Hard to imagine I know but if I’d heard Slide Away or Listen Up in its acoustic version with Noel first of all, I wouldn’t imagine it being an all conquering rock song like they are. I'd definitely love to hear Liam singing them both, but do you mean full-band versions? I don't think Half the World Away could be arranged any more perfectly than it is in all honesty |
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Post by matt on Nov 26, 2018 17:35:28 GMT -5
This is always something I’ve thought of. What if that song, along with Half The World Away went full on brickwalling with Liam’s vocals? It worked for every other song from Noel, and I’m sure it would have with this. Hard to imagine I know but if I’d heard Slide Away or Listen Up in its acoustic version with Noel first of all, I wouldn’t imagine it being an all conquering rock song like they are. I'd definitely love to hear Liam singing them both, but do you mean full-band versions? I don't think Half the World Away could be arranged any more perfectly than it is in all honesty I agree, I don’t yearn to hear over what we already have but any format they would have taken might have worked I think. |
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Post by fartpanic on Nov 26, 2018 19:04:11 GMT -5
Feel like we should just rename this thread I am an arrogant nobhead
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Post by matt on Dec 15, 2018 18:56:29 GMT -5
I don’t care one bit for Don’t Go Away.
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