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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 23:51:39 GMT -5
I like Little James. And not because it's written by Liam.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 9, 2016 1:15:23 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of how most Oasis albums (or a lot of albums in general) suddenly start. There ought to be a quiet intro that builds the anticipation, the feeling of not knowing what to expect next. Think about it. Would Sgt. Pepper be the same without the orchestra tuning at the beginning? What makes I Wanna Be Adored such a great song? Because it has a slow beginning that starts with the sound effects as Mani's bass slinks in that culminates in Squire's fantastic guitar. Sure, there are times when it's better to shock your listeners or punch them in the face, but personally, I'd like a bit of foreplay before the main event.  Only WTSMG, BHN, and HFB get this right. The rest jump in a bit too quickly. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 9, 2016 1:58:49 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of how most Oasis albums (or a lot of albums in general) suddenly start. There ought to be a quiet intro that builds the anticipation, the feeling of not knowing what to expect next. Think about it. Would Sgt. Pepper be the same without the orchestra tuning at the beginning? What makes I Wanna Be Adored such a great song? Because it has a slow beginning that starts with the sound effects as Mani's bass slinks in that culminates in Squire's fantastic guitar. Sure, there are times when it's better to shock your listeners or punch them in the face, but personally, I'd like a bit of foreplay before the main event. Only WTSMG, BHN, and HFB get this right. The rest jump in a bit too quickly. On one hand I agree, but on the other hand I think an album should start with something energetic that really kicks! Something that makes you go "fuck yeah this is it". Of course the rest of the album shouldn't implode and be boring after that.. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Sept 9, 2016 3:27:59 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of how most Oasis albums (or a lot of albums in general) suddenly start. There ought to be a quiet intro that builds the anticipation, the feeling of not knowing what to expect next. Think about it. Would Sgt. Pepper be the same without the orchestra tuning at the beginning? What makes I Wanna Be Adored such a great song? Because it has a slow beginning that starts with the sound effects as Mani's bass slinks in that culminates in Squire's fantastic guitar. Sure, there are times when it's better to shock your listeners or punch them in the face, but personally, I'd like a bit of foreplay before the main event. Only WTSMG, BHN, and HFB get this right. The rest jump in a bit too quickly. I'm the opposite. I prefer an album to smash you over the head with a guitar as it were with a thumbing track. I don't even count Hello as starting till I hear the guitar intro. Apart from Dyer Know What I Mean? I don't like slow burning start to an album |
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Post by cloudburster on Sept 10, 2016 7:08:24 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of how most Oasis albums (or a lot of albums in general) suddenly start. There ought to be a quiet intro that builds the anticipation, the feeling of not knowing what to expect next. Think about it. Would Sgt. Pepper be the same without the orchestra tuning at the beginning? What makes I Wanna Be Adored such a great song? Because it has a slow beginning that starts with the sound effects as Mani's bass slinks in that culminates in Squire's fantastic guitar. Sure, there are times when it's better to shock your listeners or punch them in the face, but personally, I'd like a bit of foreplay before the main event. Only WTSMG, BHN, and HFB get this right. The rest jump in a bit too quickly. DBTT begins this way as well (kinda). |
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Post by World71R on Sept 11, 2016 0:37:48 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of how most Oasis albums (or a lot of albums in general) suddenly start. There ought to be a quiet intro that builds the anticipation, the feeling of not knowing what to expect next. Think about it. Would Sgt. Pepper be the same without the orchestra tuning at the beginning? What makes I Wanna Be Adored such a great song? Because it has a slow beginning that starts with the sound effects as Mani's bass slinks in that culminates in Squire's fantastic guitar. Sure, there are times when it's better to shock your listeners or punch them in the face, but personally, I'd like a bit of foreplay before the main event. Only WTSMG, BHN, and HFB get this right. The rest jump in a bit too quickly. I'd add CY to that list. That little noise and the chatter ("Alright.."), along with that count in, gradually open up the album. |
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Post by glider on Sept 11, 2016 0:54:02 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of how most Oasis albums (or a lot of albums in general) suddenly start. There ought to be a quiet intro that builds the anticipation, the feeling of not knowing what to expect next. Think about it. Would Sgt. Pepper be the same without the orchestra tuning at the beginning? What makes I Wanna Be Adored such a great song? Because it has a slow beginning that starts with the sound effects as Mani's bass slinks in that culminates in Squire's fantastic guitar. Sure, there are times when it's better to shock your listeners or punch them in the face, but personally, I'd like a bit of foreplay before the main event. Only WTSMG, BHN, and HFB get this right. The rest jump in a bit too quickly. I kind of like the best of both worlds on this. For example, U2 do the album build ups on their openers perfectly. 'Zoo Station', 'Where The Streets...', 'Zooropa', all gradually come into focus and burst out onto the listener. Although, take 'Airbag' off of OK Computer. The abrupt start of the sleigh bell chimes with Jonny's roaring guitar immediately sets a tone and the track ends just as it began. You want the ultimate build up album opener? 'Breaking Into Heaven' is calling your name!  |
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Post by dadrocker on Sept 11, 2016 6:59:04 GMT -5
Since I've seen some talking about LJ in other threads, I'll leave this here.. Little James is SHIT. 100% crap without any redeeming quality. I know, objectively speaking there are worse songs in the Oasis catalogue but I totally despise it. Pure hate since the first listen. I agree. I had SOTSOG on yesterday and couldn't do it, I had to skip it. I think part of it for me is the death of the Oasis I grew up with. That was Noel, Liam, Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan, and for a bit Tony. Noel wrote the songs, Liam sang most of 'em. I felt like Little James was when someone's Mom makes you let the other kid do something and you have to deal with it despite it being embarrassing. Liam couldn't do a fucking version of Full On for the album? No Let's All Make Believe? And to think the BHN decisions are considered bad. Christ. I don't really care for most of Liam's tunes and if Noel was burned out they should have just taken a damn break until he had more tunes for Liam to sing. When Oasis stopped being Liam singing Noel's tunes the band I loved was pretty much over bar a few tunes here and there and most of DBTT, imo. Say what you want about Noel's control freak issues but that's where Oasis' best times are from. Another reason I don't care for a reunion, besides have more Noel songs now then anytime since 2000, is I don't really consider Gem and Andy as the Oasis I want to see reunite, even though they were in the band longer. Unless Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan come back who gives a fuck? That's not going to happen and I'd rather not see the shell of itself Oasis again. For what? I get to sing to Oasis tunes at Noel gigs now and frankly he has a better voice nowadays. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 7:46:52 GMT -5
If Noel never played 'Don't Look Back In Anger' again I'd be okay with it.
Not saying I have a problem with it being played, it's a great tune, but i'd be fine if I never heard another live version again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 8:39:28 GMT -5
Since I've seen some talking about LJ in other threads, I'll leave this here.. Little James is SHIT. 100% crap without any redeeming quality. I know, objectively speaking there are worse songs in the Oasis catalogue but I totally despise it. Pure hate since the first listen. I agree. I had SOTSOG on yesterday and couldn't do it, I had to skip it. I think part of it for me is the death of the Oasis I grew up with. That was Noel, Liam, Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan, and for a bit Tony. Noel wrote the songs, Liam sang most of 'em. I felt like Little James was when someone's Mom makes you let the other kid do something and you have to deal with it despite it being embarrassing. Liam couldn't do a fucking version of Full On for the album? No Let's All Make Believe? And to think the BHN decisions are considered bad. Christ. I don't really care for most of Liam's tunes and if Noel was burned out they should have just taken a damn break until he had more tunes for Liam to sing. When Oasis stopped being Liam singing Noel's tunes the band I loved was pretty much over bar a few tunes here and there and most of DBTT, imo. Say what you want about Noel's control freak issues but that's where Oasis' best times are from. Another reason I don't care for a reunion, besides have more Noel songs now then anytime since 2000, is I don't really consider Gem and Andy as the Oasis I want to see reunite, even though they were in the band longer. Unless Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan come back who gives a fuck? That's not going to happen and I'd rather not see the shell of itself Oasis again. For what? I get to sing to Oasis tunes at Noel gigs now and frankly he has a better voice nowadays. SOTSOG is the last Oasis album I can listen from start to finish, maybe DOYS too. It's a shame Noel had that writers block between 2000-2004, that's the reason he wanted the other members to contribute. His songs written in 1998/1999 were fine. Does anybody know if the sessions for SOTSOG with Bonehead and Guigsy still exists? That may be the next Mustique demo we all want. (After the AA album and the DIV sessions) |
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Post by arthurmorgan on Sept 12, 2016 8:51:43 GMT -5
I agree. I had SOTSOG on yesterday and couldn't do it, I had to skip it. I think part of it for me is the death of the Oasis I grew up with. That was Noel, Liam, Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan, and for a bit Tony. Noel wrote the songs, Liam sang most of 'em. I felt like Little James was when someone's Mom makes you let the other kid do something and you have to deal with it despite it being embarrassing. Liam couldn't do a fucking version of Full On for the album? No Let's All Make Believe? And to think the BHN decisions are considered bad. Christ. I don't really care for most of Liam's tunes and if Noel was burned out they should have just taken a damn break until he had more tunes for Liam to sing. When Oasis stopped being Liam singing Noel's tunes the band I loved was pretty much over bar a few tunes here and there and most of DBTT, imo. Say what you want about Noel's control freak issues but that's where Oasis' best times are from. Another reason I don't care for a reunion, besides have more Noel songs now then anytime since 2000, is I don't really consider Gem and Andy as the Oasis I want to see reunite, even though they were in the band longer. Unless Bonehead, Guigsy and Alan come back who gives a fuck? That's not going to happen and I'd rather not see the shell of itself Oasis again. For what? I get to sing to Oasis tunes at Noel gigs now and frankly he has a better voice nowadays. SOTSOG is the last Oasis album I can listen from start to finish, maybe DOYS too. It's a shame Noel had that writers block between 2000-2004, that's the reason he wanted the other members to contribute. His songs written in 1998/1999 were fine. Does anybody know if the sessions for SOTSOG with Bonehead and Guigsy still exists? That may be the next Mustique demo we all want. (After the AA album and the DIV sessions)I thought they just rerecorded the bass and rhythm guitar tracks. My guess is that they sound almost identical to the final album |
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Post by gemarcher1 on Sept 12, 2016 9:06:17 GMT -5
Acquiesce, Slide Away and Morning Glory are over-rated.
Good tunes yes, but not even in my top 20.
I like Shakermaker more than these songs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 9:16:29 GMT -5
Acquiesce, Slide Away and Morning Glory are over-rated. Good tunes yes, but not even in my top 20. I like Shakermaker more than these songs. Well, this is a very Gem thing to say. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 9:51:51 GMT -5
Acquiesce, Slide Away and Morning Glory are over-rated. Good tunes yes, but not even in my top 20. I like Shakermaker more than these songs. Because he sings 'Shake along with Gem' at the end? |
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Post by jupi on Sept 12, 2016 13:40:14 GMT -5
The cover for NG 2016 rethink of DYKWIM? looks lousy. Don't understand what people see in it, for me it's just an outtake from that photosession.
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Post by batfink30 on Sept 12, 2016 14:09:44 GMT -5
Gem has never written a decent tune in his life.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 19, 2016 20:10:35 GMT -5
I actually like GOYHHL, and it serves a real purpose leading into Falling Down.
In all honesty, tracks 1-8 of DOYS are fine. And you can argue that Soldier On is eerily good based on the demise of the band. So in reality, DOYS only has 2 real bad tracks, and AGN isn't too, too bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 8:50:04 GMT -5
I actually like GOYHHL, and it serves a real purpose leading into Falling Down. In all honesty, tracks 1-8 of DOYS are fine. And you can argue that Soldier On is eerily good based on the demise of the band. So in reality, DOYS only has 2 real bad tracks, and AGN isn't too, too bad. If To Be Where There's Life had guitars on it, then 'Dig Out Your Soul' would only have one abomination really. I still think Boy With The Blues should have been the finale though. |
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Post by wozdareden on Sept 20, 2016 9:04:43 GMT -5
The Boy With The Blues sounds nothing like DOYS. It could have fitted well on DBTT but defintely not DOYS.
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 20, 2016 9:05:07 GMT -5
I actually like GOYHHL, and it serves a real purpose leading into Falling Down. In all honesty, tracks 1-8 of DOYS are fine. And you can argue that Soldier On is eerily good based on the demise of the band. So in reality, DOYS only has 2 real bad tracks, and AGN isn't too, too bad. Its been said many times before but all DOYS needed was Stop The Clocks and Record Machine, two songs that they could have very easily used. Take the final 3 tracks off. Add these 2 on, maybe have a better version of Boy With The Blues as track 11 and you've got a classic album. It's laziness like this that makes me not so bothered that Oasis broke up in the end. DBTT was the only album post BHN that actually seemed finished. So many self inflicted wounds, such a shame. |
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Post by wozdareden on Sept 21, 2016 2:58:58 GMT -5
But TBWTBlues, RMachine et STClocks are not DOYS material.
They should have been on DBTT.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 3:19:13 GMT -5
But TBWTBlues, RMachine et STClocks are not DOYS material. They should have been on DBTT. I could live without Stop The Clocks on any Oasis album. Who Put The Weight of the World On My Shoulders? would have been a better bet for DBTT, imo. |
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Post by wozdareden on Sept 21, 2016 4:25:55 GMT -5
I do agree.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 6:48:50 GMT -5
Force of Nature would have been a good lead single for Heathen Chemistry.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 21, 2016 9:08:55 GMT -5
Force of Nature would have been a good lead single for Heathen Chemistry.  Force of nature is utter shite. |
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