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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 10, 2011 9:48:38 GMT -5
Liam is right in his way, Noel doing Noel's tune and it's good but not very rock n roll (= boring for Liam) is it? I think he's provocative but that's what he mean. Liam is a kid, he talks before he thinks but Noel isn't perfetc either. He always has despised Liam in the press. Sometimes he's able of saying Liam is a great frontman and other time he's taking him down (like when he said he had a hangover at the V festival). When he says "they're my songs, they just were realesed as Oasis", it's very contemptuous for Liam. It's like he thinks Liam didn't bring anything to the band and on the other hand, he's not singing Liam's related songs because he's aware of Liam's incarnation to the songs. So he keep contradict himself. Oasis wasn't his property, the songs he made with Oasis are not his only property as long as Liam has sung on them, so Liam is right to claim right on Oasis too. The songs Noel wrote for Oasis are published under his name alone. They are indeed his intellectual property.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 10, 2011 1:09:52 GMT -5
Well, if he insists on smoking and drinking his voice will start deteriorating once again. It really would be a fucking shame if he put all his hard work to waste now.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 10, 2011 0:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 9, 2011 10:54:22 GMT -5
Putting aside the fact there is no such thing as objectively assessing rock music, I'll play along: Metacritic Average Career Scores: Arctic Monkeys - 78 Arcade Fire - 88 Worldwide Sales (For First Three Albums Only, as it would be unfair to Arcade Fire otherwise): Arctic Monkeys - Approximately 4 mil Arcade Fire - Approximately 2 mil If there's no objectivity in rock music, then there's no objectivity in any music. One can always step back and look at things from a purely statistical standpoint, as cold as that may seem. Arctic Monkeys have sold more now, but they're pretty stagnant popularity-wise. Arcade Fire will only get more popular with their next album, unless they really mess things up and create a jazz odyssey. I think Arctic Monkeys are a fantastic band, but Arcade Fire just take the cake. They got all of the awards, #1 in the UK and US, and headlined all of the major festivals and arenas. They were, when they were active, the biggest rock band out there. So maybe they aren't currently, now that they're (for all intents and purposes) inactive at the moment. But from August 2010 to October 2011, they were the very top and I can see them reclaiming that crown with their next album. There isn't objectivity in anything, I'd argue. Any experience we've had will skew the way we look at things. Of course we can look at things like sales, but then we'd have to both agree that Coldplay are the best band in the world, wouldn't we?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 8, 2011 23:50:01 GMT -5
I really shouldn't have even made that post. Things like this always get too heated and end up going nowhere interesting, discussion-wise.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 8, 2011 22:02:38 GMT -5
I always find it a little hard to take when someone say that Arcade Fire are better than Arctic Monkeys, to me they are just another band I never successfully got into. You don't need to like them to realize that, objectively, they are better. More critical acclaim and more sales. Putting aside the fact there is no such thing as objectively assessing rock music, I'll play along: Metacritic Average Career Scores: Arctic Monkeys - 78 Arcade Fire - 88 Worldwide Sales (For First Three Albums Only, as it would be unfair to Arcade Fire otherwise): Arctic Monkeys - Approximately 4 mil Arcade Fire - Approximately 2 mil
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 8, 2011 16:43:54 GMT -5
I put Wrong Beach and Broken Arrow in the upper echelon of the album, personally. Not weak songs at all.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 8, 2011 16:40:14 GMT -5
The top 7 albums all broke 100k this week Christ, where'd you read that? I know the top 3 (Coldplay, Clarkson, Buble) did extremely well, but top 7 is crazy, especially considering one of them is Tom Waits. People are buying music again!
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 8, 2011 10:50:58 GMT -5
Well, they definitely don't have a sound as distinctive as U2's, but I do agree that there is a certain something that even if you hear it in another band's song it makes you think of Oasis. You can hear Oasis in Jet's Shine On, the song Wave Goodbye by Steadman, Portugal. The Man - Sleep Forever, etc.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 7, 2011 17:46:15 GMT -5
I want to get this very badly, but I'll likely wait until Christmas to be sensible.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 7, 2011 9:35:02 GMT -5
a hip hop James Bond theme that sounds ridiculous, I think Coldplay has more chance getting digs at the theme song than a hip hop act It'll happen. Mark my words. Some time in the next couple films. Hip-hop's not even that popular anymore, though...not compared to what it used to be. It would make more sense to cash in on dance sounds right now.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 2, 2011 7:46:20 GMT -5
how people think that AKA BA is like POTQ is beyond me. Vaguely similar. different time signature, different melody, different tempo. It's got a lot more of a mystical vibe than POTQ's chaotic 3/4 (believe) shuffle. K+ for this. I've said this before and it seems like it fell on deaf ears. Though anyone thinking they're identical would already have deaf ears, so I guess it makes sense...
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 26, 2011 1:31:50 GMT -5
The Killers get too much shit, in my opinion. I think Sam's Town is one of the best albums of the 00s and their other two albums are solid efforts with killer singles. I think that with the killers were expecting the masterpiece(hot fuss was a track or two of that... Sam's town might have been that one if they didnt hyped it/released bones instead of read my mind as second single, I personaly love this one as a whole, but think that is a bit to much like U2 with Rattle and Hum) with Day & Age they had the chance of doing it right but they picked the wrong song for Sawdust(Imagine if they saved Tranquilize and instead trew Human into it). No offense, but the advice you're giving is just fan talk and makes no sense in a commercial sense. Read My Mind makes more sense as a single and did better than Bones. Human was a fucking massive song and Tranquilize is not at all radio-friendly. Sam's Town > Hot Fuss > Day & Age, by the way. They made a Noelesque decision in leaving Forget About What I Said off Day & Age, by the way.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 26, 2011 1:24:19 GMT -5
They'll give 3 and a half stars, I'm almost sure of it. They give that score constantly nowadays. I counted it in one issue and more than half the albums they reviewed received three and a half.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 26, 2011 1:19:39 GMT -5
Some people prefer noel's voice...But for me it's impossible. Liam has the best voice i've heard in my life. He's a great singer and a great frontman. His voice is 1995 was pure perfection. And even if his voice is less great now, it's still very good. Noel is ok, but he's not a great singer, he's a good singer now and he's better than in 1995, but there 's no comparison with Liam. definitely agree with you. theres still no comparison with Liam. at least in studio nothing can beat him.absolutely nothing. i can compare a bad Liam gig with a good Noel gig. and i love Noel.cause Noel is Oasis.the best songwriter of the last 30 years. but without Liam's voice nothing could be the same. with Noel even with his greatest tune you are still on earth. with Liam even with a so annd so tune you are touching the sky.thats what made oasis my fav band ever.great tunes with the best RnR voice voice ever. btw, if you are looking for a perfect (technicaly) singer go an listen to Mariah Carey or your Celine Dion... I couldn't disagree more with this part. I get inspired by a great song. For example, I've got caught up in the moment every one of the 40+ times I've listened to If I Had A Gun... No Beady Eye song has made me feel like that. Some are okay, some are a bit better than that. But none of them make me completely disappear in the moment. But that goes for back in the day as well. If you don't have a good song to sing I won't get wrapped up in the moment. Give me Don't Look Back In Anger over Hey Now! any day of the week.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 25, 2011 10:58:31 GMT -5
BHN is not at all overproduced. It's overblown and the songs are too long, but the record sonically does not sound that great. A classic overproduced album would sound very slick and polished. Too glossy. BHN sounds like shit (not the songs, just the way the actual record sounds), so I wouldn't call it overproduced.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 21, 2011 6:19:18 GMT -5
Imagine if Andy's the reason why Oasis doesn't reunite. As if the guy could be more hated...
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 20, 2011 23:46:52 GMT -5
Does anybody NOT want to see the reunion? Don't get me wrong, I obviously love Oasis (as we all do) but I don't want to see them get back together and turn into a nostalgia act (as they were on their way to becoming, if we we're being honest). I like that now both brothers have had to start anew and show what they can really do on their own.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 19, 2011 7:08:07 GMT -5
Adele's pretty great but I got sick of her over the summer. The job I worked played her music constantly and it just started to wear on me. That's the biggest risk to her future at this point. Everyone already knows about her, now she just needs to avoid extreme overexposure.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 19, 2011 7:04:36 GMT -5
One is the deluxe version with the iTunes LP and a bonus track the other is just the album. Thank you. That was going to bother me all day.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 19, 2011 7:03:56 GMT -5
Noel's. Velociraptor! has great songs on it, but it also has Switchblade Smiles. Plus High Flying Birds has Broken Arrow, so it wins.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 19, 2011 7:02:09 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how he has two places in the charts? I apologize for my ignorance, but I don't really understand that.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 19, 2011 6:55:38 GMT -5
they're obviously Oasis songs, he can say whatever he wants. I do agree that they're also his songs but not exclusively. just my opinion, of course. Think about it this way... take a song like Tiny Dancer, what's the first thing(name) that comes to mind? anyone? that's right! Elton JOhn. It's an Elton JOhn song, but who wrote it? does anyone know? more importantly, does anyone care? I sure don't and neither do most people. That's just the way it is. A more recent example would be a song like Beautiful. great song with a great message, won song/record of the year @ the Grammy's, etc... It's a Christina Aguilera song, but did she write it? NO. Does anyone give a flying fuck? NO. ...I rest my case. Noel has every right to say they're his songs, but in the public's minds, they'll always be "Oasis tunes" and Noel shouldn't try to deny that, much less resent it. He WAS in Oasis after all. Elton wrote the music and melody and his collaborator Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics. Same as 99% of Elton's catalog (though there were other lyricists he worked with throughout the years). As for the topic, they're Noel's. Always were and always will be.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 18, 2011 22:38:18 GMT -5
Any way for US fans to watch?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 18, 2011 22:34:38 GMT -5
I don't have a dog in this fight but I have to say I think expectations ruined my enjoyment of Arcade Fire. Having everyone tell me they were the most amazing thing of all time just fucking killed them for me. And then every new album I get told they're the best band in the world all over again. Don't get me wrong, I like them. They're good. But their hardcore fans seriously think they're the greatest band to exist and whoever's number two is so distant as to not matter. I've never met an Arcade Fire like that, are you sure you're not thinking of Radiohead fans? I like to consider myself a huge Arcade Fire band. One of the best bands of all of time? They have time to carve their path to that kind of label, but if they keep making albums like they do now then they're set. They certainly aren't the only band around that matters though. Eh...their songwriting has never blown me away to the point where I consider them essential listening. Absolutely love the passion they have live, though. As for Radiohead...well, I've been told I shouldn't say anything if I have nothing nice to say, so I'll leave it at that. EDIT: I really hate being negative about music, so I really don't want to keep talking about this. *exits thread*
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