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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 15:31:12 GMT -5
PopMatters5/10 "... The next “Live Forever” or “Wonderwall” certainly isn’t found here, but you do get “AKA… Broken Arrow”, a song that heavily trades on “Wonderwall” for ideas. “(Stranded on) The Wrong Beach” is another glaring example of how limited Noel’s bag of tricks is as it cribs the lapping waves tide sound effect from “Champagne Supernova” for its conclusion. Even when he’s trying to experiment, Gallagher can only stretch so far. Noel spoke in a Quietus interview of trying to evoke acid house in the single “AKA… What a Life!”, his acceptable stab at indie dance, but filtered through his sensibilities the track ends up more akin to an offering by Oasis-worshipping Brit rock group Kasabian.
Even with all the bells and whistles, Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds is not much more than what one would expect given the name on the artwork—and sure, that will suit many potential purchasers perfectly fine. Beneath the shiny new ear candy, the album pedles the same sort of passable exercises in Gallagher’s patented populist songcraft that have populated the last decade’s worth of Oasis LPs, with the main difference being the boorish laddishness embodied by Liam is totally absent (one of the album’s virtues is that it reminds listeners that Noel has a fine if undistinguished singing voice, a talent that was understandably underutilized in Oasis in favor of his brother’s grittier and more expressive vocal abilities). It’s a slight departure from Noel’s usual pub and football terrace-friendly fare, but only just, and absence of Liam in front of the microphone instantly leaves the potential of the material to surpass its average nature untapped, since it was his cocksure delivery that often made latter-day Oasis any interesting. "www.popmatters.com/pm/review/150662-noel-gallaghers-high-flying-birds-noel-gallaghers-high-flying-birds/
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Post by deasy on Nov 8, 2011 15:37:17 GMT -5
and then they give DGSS a 7....wow.....
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 15:40:18 GMT -5
and then they give DGSS a 7....wow..... i thought you were gone. well, what did that last, like 48 hours ? lol glad to have you back though.
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Post by deasy on Nov 8, 2011 15:44:11 GMT -5
I'm back for a while until my next mental breakdown with college work. You were glad to see my gone too....make up your mind
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 15:48:47 GMT -5
I'm back for a while until my next mental breakdown with college work. You were glad to see my gone too....make up your mind not really, i like to debate with you, it's fun and it keeps this place alive. Too bad LetItBleed is gone but then again, he was a complete asshole(unlike you). You're only half an asshole? lol or should i say an asshole half the time hahaha... j/k.... welcome back.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 8, 2011 16:25:44 GMT -5
If you actually listened to it, you'd realise that If I Had a Gun... is about as good as a Noel-sung Slide Away, which has got to be up there. (And I prefer Slide Away to pretty much any Oasis classic)
Yeah, to a certain audience who expects Oasis, I'd be prepared to knock off 2 points for a Non Liam vocal and style, but a 5 is fucking ridiculous
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 16:32:01 GMT -5
If you actually listened to it, you'd realise that If I Had a Gun... is about as good as a Noel-sung Slide Away, which has got to be up there. (And I prefer Slide Away to pretty much any Oasis classic) Yeah, to a certain audience who expects Oasis, I'd be prepared to knock off 2 points for a Non Liam vocal and style, but a 5 is fucking ridiculous right, but you gotta take into account that he's not just reviewing the good songs on the album(IIHAG, EOTR, Dream On, TDOYAM), he's reviewing the entire album. And yes, while i agree that a 2 point deduction solely based on that lack of Liam's vocal delivery is in play, when you listen to the subpar tunes like Wrong Beach and Jesus Freaks, not to mention Broken Arrow, i mean i get what the reviewer is saying. However... i don't agree with his ranting, the album is more of a 7/10 than a 5/10 imo. In fact that's how i rated it.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 8, 2011 16:43:54 GMT -5
I put Wrong Beach and Broken Arrow in the upper echelon of the album, personally. Not weak songs at all.
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 8, 2011 16:54:27 GMT -5
Wow, I've seem HFB getting worse reviews than DGSS, that bugs me.
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Post by pheel on Nov 8, 2011 17:49:42 GMT -5
Sounds like a typical ignorant American journalist relying on the tried and tested, Noel only knows 3 chords, and that's all he does argument. There may not be one classic song on the album, and some people do need to get off the Noel Bum-licking train,but a 5/10 seems insulting. Sounds like he just doesn't like Noel's style of songwriting to me. Seriously a 5/10 would be a 50%, so he thinks it's shit....
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 18:07:51 GMT -5
Sounds like a typical ignorant American journalist relying on the tried and tested, Noel only knows 3 chords, and that's all he does argument. There may not be one classic song on the album, and some people do need to get off the Noel Bum-licking train,but a 5/10 seems insulting. Sounds like he just doesn't like Noel's style of songwriting to me. Seriously a 5/10 would be a 50%, so he thinks it's shit.... actually no... it all balances out. I haven't seen a perfect score for the album but i also haven't seen a piss poor review. 5/10 is basically the same rating The Chicago Tribune(2 stars) gave the album, The L.A. Times gave it 2 1/2 stars also. Maybe american people really don't like the sound Noel's going for? Or maybe--because it's somewhat similar to what he did in the past with Oasis, it makes them miss Liam's vocals? I don't know.... but let's not act like giving it a 5/10 or a 2.5/5 rating = thinking the album is shit, it just means they think it's average at best. Do i agree with that? not by any means but it just goes to show you that just as some people are bound to LOVE the album(mainly hardcore fans), there are those who don't think much of it.
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Post by jedimasterg on Nov 8, 2011 19:00:17 GMT -5
Then again the people reviewing this ablum are doing so because they themselves could not write a tune to save their lives but feel their input it some how means something just bbecause it is printed. Its kind of like dude if your opinon surrounding music was worth anything you be writting your own tunes and having some other dutche review your ablum. Reviews are one persons opinon and opinons are like ass holes everyone got one. In the end they mean shit.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 19:06:27 GMT -5
Then again the people reviewing this ablum are doing so because they themselves could not write a tune to save their lives but feel their input it some how means something just bbecause it is printed. Its kind of like dude if your opinon surrounding music was worth anything you be writting your own tunes and having some other dutche review your ablum. Reviews are one persons opinon and opinons are like ass holes everyone got one. In the end they mean shit. lol it's called being objective.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 21:33:21 GMT -5
This is attributed to the high expectations of a Noel release versus the low expectations of a Liam release. The common listener is under-whelmed by Noel's offering, while being over-joyed that Liam's offering wasn't utter shite.
No big deal really. It's just how they approached the record.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 8, 2011 21:52:40 GMT -5
This is attributed to the high expectations of a Noel release versus the low expectations of a Liam release. The common listener is under-whelmed by Noel's offering, while being over-joyed that Liam's offering wasn't utter shite. No big deal really. It's just how they approached the record. actually, the BDI record just rocks and hits you in the face with more than a couple of songs, thought i has one or two stinkers, Liam's delivery in his vocals are just that great and elevate the tunes even though they may be lacking on the lyrical side of the spectrum. Meanwhile Noel's record is just very soft in every bad sense of the word. It's like Noel tried to play it safe, BDI sort of went for it a bit more. hey, just my take on it and apparently a lot of the major publications agree with that sentiment. Obviously you don't think much of the BDI album but talk wonders about NGHFB. that's your opinion but it's nothing more than that.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 9, 2011 4:42:37 GMT -5
This is attributed to the high expectations of a Noel release versus the low expectations of a Liam release. The common listener is under-whelmed by Noel's offering, while being over-joyed that Liam's offering wasn't utter shite. No big deal really. It's just how they approached the record. You can't accept that some people would prefer Beady Eye's record because they think its good, because they think its better than Noel's can you? Its like if your brain for a second thought that could be the truth you would have some massive breakdown. Its only a review ffs. One that I don't particulary agree with either.
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Post by putmeinmyplace89 on Nov 10, 2011 13:32:57 GMT -5
popmatters is hardly a big us site.. justsayin
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 10, 2011 13:57:36 GMT -5
I put Wrong Beach and Broken Arrow in the upper echelon of the album, personally. Not weak songs at all.
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Post by start at the end on Nov 10, 2011 15:42:31 GMT -5
No shit, popmatters is hardly Spin of RS for Christ sake. Spin was originally an 8 and now a 7/10 for whatever reason...maybe someone change to the deluxe version, lol. I've yet to see the predictable Rolling Stone bashing. Who knows, perhaps they'll skip it altogether...what a blessing. Metacritic (a clearing house for reviews if you didn't know) pretty much has it right, on the whole: www.metacritic.com/music/noel-gallaghers-high-flying-birds68: Generally favorable. BDI was a 64 as I recall for those that care.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Nov 10, 2011 15:56:45 GMT -5
^ Rolling Stone gave it 3 and a half stars...like every other album released nowadays.
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Post by anaximander on Nov 11, 2011 9:23:55 GMT -5
Pop Matters would like to a be a big us music site but I don't know anyone who reads it, besides myself on occasion. Very pretentious and often way off the mark, as they are here. I stopped reading because I found the writing and analysis to sound like a college freshman trying to be profound
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Post by johnnyb on Nov 11, 2011 11:48:23 GMT -5
Any reviewer that puts DGSS above NGHFB needs urgent medical attention, and no that's not just an opinion that's a fucking fact.
Love BDi's work ethic though
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 11, 2011 12:10:03 GMT -5
actually it's huge , research the numbers please 1 million unique monthly readers i also didn't consider it big enough but i was wrong. so now you know.
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