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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 14, 2010 14:59:00 GMT -5
^ Isn't the point that if the Gallaghers didn't constantly take the bait from journalists they wouldn't be offered such obvious bait in the first place?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 14, 2010 14:50:39 GMT -5
Something is better than anything Liam has ever made. Liam is an absolute nipple.
See how that works?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 14, 2010 14:45:27 GMT -5
Other than I guess the impact it had on British culture, Definitely Maybe isn't THAT amazing. It has amazing songs, but it also has Digsy's Dinner and two songs that drag onnnnnn (Shakermaker and Columbia) Live Forever and Slide Away are untouchable, but the thing has huge holes in it.
Not saying BDI's debut will be better than it, but if they can make a more consistent album (like Don't Believe The Truth) then I'll be very happy.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 9, 2010 11:51:19 GMT -5
It will work for US people, I can confirm.
Anybody catch the "It's just rock 'n' roll, man, Beatles and Stones, d'you know what I mean?" Maybe that's why that song's called that. Maybe it's very rock 'n' roll, I don't know.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 8, 2010 18:58:47 GMT -5
I like the first couplet in Gas Panic! mostly because it's a shock to hear Noel write something so vivid, especially at that time. He was mostly very vague the first three albums, but those two opening lines are very rich with imagery.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 8, 2010 11:11:23 GMT -5
So what's with Andy and titles with Dream in it? Would that make three songs in three records with dream in the title?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 8, 2010 11:07:40 GMT -5
I think at this point everyone realizes we'll go easier on the title if it's a great tune. It's kind of pointless to keep reiterating the point. It might be a great tune. It might be terrible. And regardless of what happens, it's a terrible title.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 13:18:58 GMT -5
Or, just make it a 6-song EP
Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock Of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Falling Down
Brilliant that way.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 13:17:24 GMT -5
^ Yeah, they probably will. Keep in mind I really like the album. But that's not really what I'm saying. It's a very gentle listen in its original format. Why do acoustic versions of very acoustic-based songs, is what I'm asking.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 13:15:22 GMT -5
^ True, no one will deny that. But are you going to bank on Beatles and Stones being the next Live Forever? Again, let's not set the bar that high, for the boys' sake. Say the next I'm Outta Time, because Liam had fuck all to do with writing Live Forever.
And like I said in another thread, the reason we analyze things like this is because Liam has not proven he can write quality lyrics consistently. Anyone who says otherwise is in denial. He can churn out a decent tune here and there, but he admits himself he struggles with lyrics.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 13:13:21 GMT -5
Look, here's the thing with the Beatles and Stones thing. It's a horrid title, as anyone can see. Yes, Noel has sprinkled (liberally) Beatles references in his songs over the years. The difference is Liam admits himself that he has difficulty with lyrics. If we're starting out with a title like Beatles and Stones, it's not that big a leap to assume the chorus will be something like this:
"Come on, play the Beatles and stones You hear me talking on the telephone I got nothing on my mind 'cept singing and making it shine"
Now I put no thought into that and literally just typed the first words that came into my mind. It's a bit sad that Liam could (some might argue he already has) turn in lyrics on par or (hopefully not) worse than those.
That's why it's troubling.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 13:05:57 GMT -5
None of those Beatles songs are bad names. You really have no argument here, because there's no defending Beatles and Stones. Chuck And Elvis is a great analogy to make. That would be equally stupid, but no, the Beatles did not have a song title like that.
It's fine if you admit the name's shit and say "who cares, they're just song titles" but don't act like Beady Eye are just doing what every band does.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 7, 2010 11:09:27 GMT -5
^ There's no comparison between The Hindu Times and Columbia (both great song names, by the way) and the atrocity that is Beatles and Stones. There's seriously no reason to name a song such an asinine name. Why would BDI do that? Do they think we don't know they're influenced by them. It'd be like the Brian Jonestown Massacre writing a song called We Like The Rolling Stones. Goes without saying, doesn't it?
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WTF?
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 6, 2010 19:25:00 GMT -5
So basically, does that mean I need to like the cover or fuck off? What a world that would be eh? of course not but like others have said, album cover become evident from the music and how good it is. I mean Nirvana (cant stand them personally), their album with the baby swimming underwater - nothing special but it's always in these crappy charts of great album covers. And that Pink Floyd album! That crappy basic one - some kind of 70's design student's prodject Wow, I hope you're being sarcastic here. Those album covers are great, and I don't like Pink Floyd at all.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 6, 2010 19:20:43 GMT -5
^ And I think why it's even more prevalent in Oasis discussions is because Sgt. Pepper's, even without those two brilliant songs, is miles better than Dig Out Your Soul, no matter what tracks Noel put on it. So while the Beatles just had such a wealth of quality material it hardly mattered, it certainly mattered with Oasis.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 6, 2010 14:33:12 GMT -5
Does anybody else think this is a strange move in general? I like the latest Coral, but it's not like it's a rockin' affair. It's basically acoustic anyway.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 6, 2010 14:31:04 GMT -5
Happy Xmas (War Is Over) and Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 6, 2010 1:55:43 GMT -5
^ I definitely agree with that. It's amazing to me that even I, as a big fan of Oasis for a long time now, have no 1 Oasis album I can regard as perfect from front to back. When you look at the wealth of great songs they have, there's no reason they couldn't have had 2 or 3 of those records.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 4, 2010 15:45:52 GMT -5
Standing on the edge of the noise! Na na na na na na na na na na La la la la la la la la la la la la la
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 3, 2010 16:30:02 GMT -5
I know Mando Diao isn't the topic at hand, but if I may throw in my two cents, I have to say the first 4 are actually really good. The first 3 are pure fucking gold, but the fourth is the sleeper. Really quality stuff on that record. Fifth one...I don't know, I don't like it as much as the first 4. Not terrible, but not great.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 2, 2010 13:16:15 GMT -5
Miles Kane said on some chat show November 27 that Al's working on "Monkey 4". I'm pretty sure we can derive his meaning from that.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 1, 2010 15:18:35 GMT -5
Well, I voted honestly, and that's that even though I'm a huge Oasis fan, Definitely Maybe has flaws. It's not a perfect album. Shakermaker and Columbia are longer than they should be (the former not even that good a song) and Digsy's Dinner isn't all that great. Live Forever and Slide Away are brilliant, of course, but there are still debuts on that list that are arguably better (Strokes, Smiths, Arctics, Joy Division, Killers, Arcade Fire, Libs, etc.)
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 1, 2010 13:36:17 GMT -5
Don't know how to answer properly. My dad was playing Oasis records when I was growing up. He got into them around '95, I think, so I'd guess the first time I heard them was around then. But I can't really remember, to be honest.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 1, 2010 13:24:19 GMT -5
I have to disagree with whoever said John was the best songwriter. Paul has a gift for melody that is unmatched. And his voice is unbelievable. So Macca for me.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 1, 2010 13:21:25 GMT -5
^ Literally the opposite but for the same reason. There's nothing wrong with Bring The Light, but there's no way it wows me. Sons Of The Stage comes closer to doing that.
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