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Post by spaneli on Sept 4, 2017 21:22:34 GMT -5
This is after Wall of Glass peaked at #110 on Alternative radio and #111 on AAA radio in July (which is shockingly low imo, but I'm guessing Warners did fuck-all for it in the states) It wasn't an actual single here. Technically, FWIW is the first official US single, I believe.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 4, 2017 21:29:36 GMT -5
Dare I say it, this maybe Liam's last chance to gain any slight momentum in the states since Warners won't do it. I just checked and it looks like the song's momentum is slowing as there are no additional radio stations adding the song to their playlists. I would highly encourage all you American lot to take two minutes out of your day and request the song to your local Alternative or AAA station via email or social media. A good nationwide one that serves as a bit of a tastemaker would be SiriusXM's The Spectrum (thespectrum@siriusxm.com) and Alt Nation (AltNation@sirusxm.com). There's also famous ones like KROQ (playing a non-Bittersweet Symphony Verve song as we speak), KCRW (who premiered "Flick of the Finger"), etc. etc. That sounds about right. Typically, the strongest momentum for a song on American radio for an act that is trying to break in is the first 5 weeks. It's make or break. Unless a song is really catching on in that time, most stations won't add them afterwards because they're too old, or they have bigger names releasing material that they'll want to add. If a song really catches on, then it'll typically rise for another 5-6 weeks, peaking in either week 10 or 11, and then they'll slowly begin to decline. Some songs take up to three months to really decline, others will take a lot less time. This timeline can obviously change from song-to-song or artist-to-artist. But for FWIW to do well in America, even on the Alt. Rock charts, it's going to need to get a lot more help from Warners. Because in the end, they may play a song once if you request it, but that's different from being playlisted. That takes a lot more pull. (I remember requesting Falling Down on Q101, and them playing it a couple of times, but it never got playlisted).
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 4, 2017 21:49:55 GMT -5
Honestly that was a boneheaded (no pun intended) move by Warner not to promote Wall of Glass to US stations. That was a tune. At least they're doing something with FWIW. It's also been sent to rock stations, but it doesn't look like any have touched it at all.
The song may not get playlisted (yet anyway), but still those plays are plays, they count towards the charting and are plays (aka exposure) the song would not have gotten previously. Hopefully Warners will take notice and nudge the song a bit in the right direction.
But yeah, let's hope this can keep going a bit. The song's definitely grown on me. It would be cool for it to peak as a minor hit like Noel's "If I Had a Gun..." at the same time as the album's release, especially with the US tour coming up.
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Post by august on Sept 5, 2017 1:20:20 GMT -5
I think For what it's worth was a bad choice. It's not enough "indie" (whatever that means), but not commercial enough either. Also, the melody is quite generic and dull.
I am sure When I'm in need would've done better. At least it sounds different and is a good song.
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Sept 6, 2017 8:20:41 GMT -5
jumped up to #48 on itunes
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Post by supernovadragon on Sept 6, 2017 10:22:09 GMT -5
Did oasis release all the singles before album? I thought they dropped off cos the album was released by the time the 3rd was out. Could be remembering wrong though I suppose it makes sense to release singles prior to the album nowadays. We/people generally were happy to buy singles, even if we had the song on an album, partly because we had record COLLECTIONS. And our collection was something we'd be proud of; I've seen plenty of people over the years post photographs of their Oasis collections. Now that we download, well I've never known anybody take great pride in their iTunes downloads. The second reason to buy a single post-album release was for the b-sides, but they've - as somebody in this thread has already said - become the extra tracks on deluxe editions of albums. And they've released the current singles very early - in relation to the album release - could this be to get them out prior to the dreaded leak? It'd probably make sense to release one more single prior to album release and possibly a stand-alone single - a la Whatever - around Xmas. Oh god, that's going to be Eh La isn't it? Liam Gallagher, the Christmas single
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Post by space75gr on Sept 9, 2017 4:03:30 GMT -5
...back in the charts for a 3rd week...
#94
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 12, 2017 21:02:10 GMT -5
FWIW is dead on US alternative radio, but has risen to #48 on AAA.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 13, 2017 7:46:32 GMT -5
FWIW is dead on US alternative radio, but has risen to #48 on AAA. What is AAA?
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Post by World71R on Sept 13, 2017 15:57:44 GMT -5
FWIW is dead on US alternative radio, but has risen to #48 on AAA. What is AAA? Adult Album Alternative
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Post by themanwithnoname on Sept 13, 2017 16:44:29 GMT -5
What is Adult Album Alternative?
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Post by Derrick on Sept 13, 2017 16:52:18 GMT -5
What is Adult Album Alternative? Adult album alternative (also triple-A, AAA, or adult alternative) is a radio format. A spinoff from the album-oriented rock format, its roots trace to the 1960s and 1970s from the earlier freeform and progressive formats. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_album_alternativeNext question will be: What is a radio format?
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Post by mancraider on Sept 13, 2017 17:30:00 GMT -5
What is Adult Album Alternative? Adult album alternative (also triple-A, AAA, or adult alternative) is a radio format. A spinoff from the album-oriented rock format, its roots trace to the 1960s and 1970s from the earlier freeform and progressive formats. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_album_alternativeNext question will be: What is a radio format? So is 48 good? and, er, what's a radio format? 😆
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 13, 2017 18:22:01 GMT -5
Adult album alternative (also triple-A, AAA, or adult alternative) is a radio format. A spinoff from the album-oriented rock format, its roots trace to the 1960s and 1970s from the earlier freeform and progressive formats. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_album_alternativeNext question will be: What is a radio format? So is 48 good? and, er, what's a radio format? 😆 48 is the biggest Gallagher entry in the format since NGHFB's In the Heat of the Moment peaked at #43 two years ago. Of course, Noel's first album had much more success on both Alternative and AAA radio than Liam has had so far (particularly the former, which is a much larger format). NGHFB got to #28 and sold 15,000 copies in in it's first week in 2011. Chasing Yesterday got to #35 on the Billboard 200 and sold 14,000 copies in its first week in America in 2015.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 13, 2017 19:11:27 GMT -5
The next question is: How large an audience does AAA radio attract? Does it reach a large audience?
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 13, 2017 23:52:08 GMT -5
The next question is: How large an audience does AAA radio attract? Does it reach a large audience? Quite a small one. On satellite radio, The Spectrum is a pretty popular AAA format amongst the 35 - 60-ish age group, playing a mix of classic mainstream and alternative rock, plus newer alternative, indie, and AC/some Top 40 acts. However in general the format is tiny. The top played songs of last week on AAA reached an audience of 1.6 million. Only 91,000 people heard FWIW through this format, which he landed at #48 last week. By comparison, when he was #50 on Alternative the week before, 350,000 people heard FWIW. The most played song on Alternative radio last week reached an audience of 13.7 million people. Hell, the most played song on Top 40 radio reached 118 million people last week.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 14, 2017 0:06:20 GMT -5
The next question is: How large an audience does AAA radio attract? Does it reach a large audience? Quite a small one. On satellite radio, The Spectrum is a pretty popular AAA format amongst the 35 - 60-ish age group, playing a mix of classic mainstream and alternative rock, plus newer alternative, indie, and AC/some Top 40 acts. However in general the format is tiny. The top played songs of last week on AAA reached an audience of 1.6 million. Only 91,000 people heard FWIW through this format, which he landed at #48 last week. By comparison, when he was #50 on Alternative the week before, 350,000 people heard FWIW. The most played song on Alternative radio last week reached an audience of 13.7 million people. Hell, the most played song on Top 40 radio reached 118 million people last week. You'll also find that a lot of college radio stations fall under AAA. AAA is really a hodgepodge of radio stations.
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Post by space75gr on Sept 15, 2017 12:12:41 GMT -5
#91 in the uk charts for a 4th week
probably the only indie/alt track in the whole top100!!!
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Post by walterglass on Sept 15, 2017 12:18:27 GMT -5
Probably been asked a thousand times but album pre-orders, do they count as, say, 12 singles purchases? Or do album buys not contribute toward a placing in the singles charts?
Not the most articulate paragraph I've ever spewed out but hope it gets me question across.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 12:18:38 GMT -5
#91 in the uk charts for a 4th weekprobably the only indie/alt track in the whole top100!!! As much as we would all like to think that a Liam track is indie/alt.... because of his stature in the British musical landscape, that designation doesn't make sense.
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Post by space75gr on Sept 17, 2017 6:20:39 GMT -5
Can someone answer if FWIW released in physical form (7) or its chart position is only by downloads n streams. I cant find it in vinyl chart . WOG is still in the top 5 for almost 11-12 weeks. With its chart position FWIW should be #1 in vinyl chart.
(If the answer is NO I believe with physical sales could chart a lot higher for many weeks cause oasis/liam/Noel fanbase but vinyls.anyway)
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Post by Derrick on Sept 17, 2017 16:30:36 GMT -5
Can someone answer if FWIW released in physical form (7) or its chart position is only by downloads n streams. I cant find it in vinyl chart . WOG is still in the top 5 for almost 11-12 weeks. With its chart position FWIW should be #1 in vinyl chart. (If the answer is NO I believe with physical sales could chart a lot higher for many weeks cause oasis/liam/Noel fanbase but vinyls.anyway) No physical release; only "Wall of glass" was the only song released on 7" vinyl.
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Post by oasisitalia on Sept 18, 2017 1:39:32 GMT -5
I do not understand why the singles have not yet been launched ..
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Post by space75gr on Sept 19, 2017 2:08:04 GMT -5
Can someone answer if FWIW released in physical form (7) or its chart position is only by downloads n streams. I cant find it in vinyl chart . WOG is still in the top 5 for almost 11-12 weeks. With its chart position FWIW should be #1 in vinyl chart. (If the answer is NO I believe with physical sales could chart a lot higher for many weeks cause oasis/liam/Noel fanbase but vinyls.anyway) No physical release; only "Wall of glass" was the only song released on 7" vinyl. i suppose, it's losing a lot of physical sales then and a higher chart position
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Sept 19, 2017 2:54:53 GMT -5
I understand posting the chart positions to keep up to date.
But posting them and worrying that it has any effect whatsoever on the album is ridiculous.
Sorry but i didnt exactly expect it to make ripples in the US.
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