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Post by blurareshit on Aug 25, 2017 14:22:40 GMT -5
According to Hits Daily Double, FWIW was released to alternative rock radio in the US this week. Just now? O.o There's zero incentive for any station to play it. It's already been out for a while, plus he already appeared on Colbert. Really weird. And I'm surprised he's not going for the AAA format either since those stations play Oasis songs and relatively newer bands like the War on Drugs, Arcade Fire, Ryan Adams a great deal. Alternative rock radio now is essentially just the list of current Top 40 singles made by pop rock bands.
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Post by blurareshit on Aug 25, 2017 14:28:33 GMT -5
Looks like he got a total of 47 plays this week, 26 last week. Mostly in the dead of night, but some daytime airplay.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 25, 2017 14:31:06 GMT -5
What's a Wonderwall anyway?
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2017 14:34:55 GMT -5
'As You Were - contains the #46 smash hit, For What It's Worth".
That will look good on the posters.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 25, 2017 14:41:07 GMT -5
Looks like he got a total of 47 plays this week, 26 last week. Mostly in the dead of night, but some daytime airplay. Hmmm, doubled its plays. Still, it takes a lot of plays to break into top 40 for Alt. Rock. As of the moment, even if it doubled its plays from this week, it'd still be halfway from charting.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 25, 2017 16:54:22 GMT -5
'As You Were - contains the #46 smash hit, For What It's Worth". That will look good on the posters. Wow, just wow. Where did stuff Like 'If I Had a Gun' chart? Means fuck all, as you know.
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Post by Derrick on Aug 25, 2017 17:06:50 GMT -5
Ended up at 80 for it's second week. Epic fail! For such a M.O.R. ballad that was designed to appeal to the masses... Chris Moyles definitely over-hyped it. Liam would have fared better with a rocker instead of this cheesy ballad. I hope they make a right choice for the fourth single just before the album's release.
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2017 17:11:55 GMT -5
'As You Were - contains the #46 smash hit, For What It's Worth". That will look good on the posters. Wow, just wow. Where did stuff Like 'If I Had a Gun' chart? Means fuck all, as you know. I don't give a shit about If I Had A Gun, neither do I care much for this track either.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 25, 2017 17:19:29 GMT -5
Wow, just wow. Where did stuff Like 'If I Had a Gun' chart? Means fuck all, as you know. I don't give a shit about If I Had A Gun, neither do I care much for this track either. It doesnt matter what you think of the song, what you said was fucking ridiculous. A band like Kasabian couldnt get a #46 single on their last album. The point about If I Had a Gun was on this forum when Noels singles were barely creeping into the top 100 we all (rightly) dismissed it as a sign of the times with the charts. Liam gets a respectable 46 on his 3rd release and theres numerous comments making digs. Very bizarre. All it does is remind me what we are going to have to put up with if Liam starts to actually fail in some way.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 25, 2017 17:23:06 GMT -5
Ended up at 80 for it's second week. Epic fail! For such a M.O.R. ballad that was designed to appeal to the masses... Chris Moyles definitely over-hyped it. Liam would have fared better with a rocker instead of this cheesy ballad. I hope they make a right choice for the fourth single just before the album's release. Did you honestly just use the term epic fail for a 44 year old getting 80 on his 2nd week of his 3rd release? It isnt anything to do with the type of song or how good the song is. The promotion of the song is whats meant it hasn't hit the heights of Wall Of Glass. (Which i think will be the last time we see either Gallagher in the top 30 unless Oasis release another single). overreaction forum
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 25, 2017 17:37:00 GMT -5
Epic fail! For such a M.O.R. ballad that was designed to appeal to the masses... Chris Moyles definitely over-hyped it. Liam would have fared better with a rocker instead of this cheesy ballad. I hope they make a right choice for the fourth single just before the album's release. overreaction forum Indeed.
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2017 17:42:46 GMT -5
I don't give a shit about If I Had A Gun, neither do I care much for this track either. It doesnt matter what you think of the song, what you said was fucking ridiculous. A band like Kasabian couldnt get a #46 single on their last album. The point about If I Had a Gun was on this forum when Noels singles were barely creeping into the top 100 we all (rightly) dismissed it as a sign of the times with the charts. Liam gets a respectable 46 on his 3rd release and theres numerous comments making digs. Very bizarre. All it does is remind me what we are going to have to put up with if Liam starts to actually fail in some way. It's. A. Joke. It's merely ripping the piss out of those who thought it was going to be a mega song and the kingpin song off the album (e.g. Chris Moyles). It isn't, that song is still Wall Of Glass. I personally think the song is cheesy and naff, but there's plenty for me to enjoy from Liam's solo career so far, so rest assured, I'm not wishing failure on Liam. All the Liam fanboys on here can put their minds at ease that we're not all taking part in pagan style rituals by locking a Pretty Green clad lad with his mod haircut in a Noel Gallagher wicker man and burning him alive.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 25, 2017 17:49:57 GMT -5
It doesnt matter what you think of the song, what you said was fucking ridiculous. A band like Kasabian couldnt get a #46 single on their last album. The point about If I Had a Gun was on this forum when Noels singles were barely creeping into the top 100 we all (rightly) dismissed it as a sign of the times with the charts. Liam gets a respectable 46 on his 3rd release and theres numerous comments making digs. Very bizarre. All it does is remind me what we are going to have to put up with if Liam starts to actually fail in some way. It's. A. Joke. It's merely ripping the piss out of those who thought it was going to be a mega song and the kingpin song off the album (e.g. Chris Moyles). It isn't, that song is still Wall Of Glass. I personally think the song is cheesy and naff, but there's plenty for me to enjoy from Liam's solo career so far, so rest assured, I'm not wishing failure on Liam. All the Liam fanboys on here can put their minds at ease that we're not all taking part in pagan style rituals by locking a Pretty Green clad lad with his mod haircut in a Noel Gallagher wicker man and burning him alive. Yet again by defending another obvious dig at Liam from a usual suspect, you get labelled a Liam fan boy. God forbid you should find fans of Liam on here. Sorry if that offends you. It wasnt even a discussion of the song, you made a stupid comment about the chart performance and like i said, Noel didnt get anything like that kind of reaction to his much worse chart performances.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 25, 2017 18:36:57 GMT -5
'As You Were - contains the #46 smash hit, For What It's Worth". That will look good on the posters. Wow, just wow. Where did stuff Like 'If I Had a Gun' chart? Means fuck all, as you know. Not to get brainy on this, but Noel did have two top 20s going into HFBs (WAL and TDOYAM). Also with If I Had a Gun, if I remember correctly, the actual single wasn't released in the UK until 3 months after the original air play. The airplay being September 13th, and the single release being December 26th. Having said that, it did chart at #2 on Japan's Hot 100 and it did make it to #25 on the US Alt. rock charts. In other parts of the world, the single did some pretty good work.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 25, 2017 20:09:26 GMT -5
Epic fail! For such a M.O.R. ballad that was designed to appeal to the masses... Chris Moyles definitely over-hyped it. Liam would have fared better with a rocker instead of this cheesy ballad. I hope they make a right choice for the fourth single just before the album's release. Did you honestly just use the term epic fail for a 44 year old getting 80 on his 2nd week of his 3rd release? It isnt anything to do with the type of song or how good the song is. The promotion of the song is whats meant it hasn't hit the heights of Wall Of Glass. (Which i think will be the last time we see either Gallagher in the top 30 unless Oasis release another single). overreaction forum Definitely don't agree with that. The first single from each of Noel's two albums went top 30, and the first single from Liam's went top 30. There's a pretty clear trend that the first single of a Gallagher release tends to do well enough to chart in the top 30.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 26, 2017 0:49:13 GMT -5
It doesnt matter what you think of the song, what you said was fucking ridiculous. A band like Kasabian couldnt get a #46 single on their last album. The point about If I Had a Gun was on this forum when Noels singles were barely creeping into the top 100 we all (rightly) dismissed it as a sign of the times with the charts. Liam gets a respectable 46 on his 3rd release and theres numerous comments making digs. Very bizarre. All it does is remind me what we are going to have to put up with if Liam starts to actually fail in some way. It's. A. Joke. It's merely ripping the piss out of those who thought it was going to be a mega song and the kingpin song off the album (e.g. Chris Moyles). It isn't, that song is still Wall Of Glass. I personally think the song is cheesy and naff, but there's plenty for me to enjoy from Liam's solo career so far, so rest assured, I'm not wishing failure on Liam. All the Liam fanboys on here can put their minds at ease that we're not all taking part in pagan style rituals by locking a Pretty Green clad lad with his mod haircut in a Noel Gallagher wicker man and burning him alive. We're not? Bummer, was so looking forward to that!
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Post by Rolo on Aug 26, 2017 1:40:17 GMT -5
Reading and Leeds should give it a little boost in next week's charts.
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Post by deasy on Aug 26, 2017 4:23:22 GMT -5
This thread and the mention of 44 year olds on the charts has made me realise Pharrell Williams is the same age as Liam. Does that man age at all.
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Post by Derrick on Aug 26, 2017 14:38:14 GMT -5
Epic fail! For such a M.O.R. ballad that was designed to appeal to the masses... Chris Moyles definitely over-hyped it. Liam would have fared better with a rocker instead of this cheesy ballad. I hope they make a right choice for the fourth single just before the album's release. Did you honestly just use the term epic fail for a 44 year old getting 80 on his 2nd week of his 3rd release? It isnt anything to do with the type of song or how good the song is. The promotion of the song is whats meant it hasn't hit the heights of Wall Of Glass. (Which i think will be the last time we see either Gallagher in the top 30 unless Oasis release another single). overreaction forum The promotion was botched, no proper video was released, just the lyric video; a few days ago we got that fake live video (not completely live, but not the studio version either), which we fans guess serves as the video clip but the casual people & journalists who don't pay much attention think it's just a live video. To gain momentum a real video should have been released the day "For what it's worth" was premiered, music journalists would have been able to embed it in their newsfeed, but a simple lyric video attracts much less attention. They did a much better job at promoting "Wall of glass", & it got good airplay. "For what it's worth" just fares slightly better than "Chinatown", which is really underwhelming considering that, unlike "Chinatown", it could appeal to a much broader audience. When it entered the charts at #46 last week I really expected it to climb the next week; now it is unlikely it will even remain in the top 100 for a third week. Perhaps I was way too optimistic about Liam's market value, but looking at his quite successful comeback as a solo star I didn't expect at all his second proper single to be greeted with such indifference, considering it was praised not only by Chris Moyles. Several journalists described "For what it's worth" as the most Oasis-y song of the album, & the one most people should like. So, yes, for me it is a real commercial failure given the potential of that song. That or everybody (journalists, radio DJs, radio listeners) agree that "For what it's worth" is dull & doesn't deserve more exposure & success than it got. I'm not the greatest fan of this song, nevertheless I find this latter option quite improbable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 4:49:04 GMT -5
It seems a funny time of year to put out a song like FWIW as well. Do you really want to listen to that in the sunshyine with a beer in your hand?
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Post by deasy on Aug 27, 2017 5:32:53 GMT -5
It doesnt matter what you think of the song, what you said was fucking ridiculous. A band like Kasabian couldnt get a #46 single on their last album. The point about If I Had a Gun was on this forum when Noels singles were barely creeping into the top 100 we all (rightly) dismissed it as a sign of the times with the charts. Liam gets a respectable 46 on his 3rd release and theres numerous comments making digs. Very bizarre. All it does is remind me what we are going to have to put up with if Liam starts to actually fail in some way. It's. A. Joke. It's merely ripping the piss out of those who thought it was going to be a mega song and the kingpin song off the album (e.g. Chris Moyles). It isn't, that song is still Wall Of Glass. I personally think the song is cheesy and naff, but there's plenty for me to enjoy from Liam's solo career so far, so rest assured, I'm not wishing failure on Liam. All the Liam fanboys on here can put their minds at ease that we're not all taking part in pagan style rituals by locking a Pretty Green clad lad with his mod haircut in a Noel Gallagher wicker man and burning him alive. There's no jokes allowed at live4ever, Sir. You need to remain serious at all times.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 27, 2017 11:30:08 GMT -5
Did you honestly just use the term epic fail for a 44 year old getting 80 on his 2nd week of his 3rd release? It isnt anything to do with the type of song or how good the song is. The promotion of the song is whats meant it hasn't hit the heights of Wall Of Glass. (Which i think will be the last time we see either Gallagher in the top 30 unless Oasis release another single). overreaction forum The promotion was botched, no proper video was released, just the lyric video; a few days ago we got that fake live video (not completely live, but not the studio version either), which we fans guess serves as the video clip but the casual people & journalists who don't pay much attention think it's just a live video. To gain momentum a real video should have been released the day "For what it's worth" was premiered, music journalists would have been able to embed it in their newsfeed, but a simple lyric video attracts much less attention. They did a much better job at promoting "Wall of glass", & it got good airplay. "For what it's worth" just fares slightly better than "Chinatown", which is really underwhelming considering that, unlike "Chinatown", it could appeal to a much broader audience. When it entered the charts at #46 last week I really expected it to climb the next week; now it is unlikely it will even remain in the top 100 for a third week. Perhaps I was way too optimistic about Liam's market value, but looking at his quite successful comeback as a solo star I didn't expect at all his second proper single to be greeted with such indifference, considering it was praised not only by Chris Moyles. Several journalists described "For what it's worth" as the most Oasis-y song of the album, & the one most people should like. So, yes, for me it is a real commercial failure given the potential of that song. That or everybody (journalists, radio DJs, radio listeners) agree that "For what it's worth" is dull & doesn't deserve more exposure & success than it got. I'm not the greatest fan of this song, nevertheless I find this latter option quite improbable. Maybe, just maybe, it's not that great of a tune for non Oasis fans to like and turn into a radio hit. It's just an ok song. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 11:41:46 GMT -5
The promotion was botched, no proper video was released, just the lyric video; a few days ago we got that fake live video (not completely live, but not the studio version either), which we fans guess serves as the video clip but the casual people & journalists who don't pay much attention think it's just a live video. To gain momentum a real video should have been released the day "For what it's worth" was premiered, music journalists would have been able to embed it in their newsfeed, but a simple lyric video attracts much less attention. They did a much better job at promoting "Wall of glass", & it got good airplay. "For what it's worth" just fares slightly better than "Chinatown", which is really underwhelming considering that, unlike "Chinatown", it could appeal to a much broader audience. When it entered the charts at #46 last week I really expected it to climb the next week; now it is unlikely it will even remain in the top 100 for a third week. Perhaps I was way too optimistic about Liam's market value, but looking at his quite successful comeback as a solo star I didn't expect at all his second proper single to be greeted with such indifference, considering it was praised not only by Chris Moyles. Several journalists described "For what it's worth" as the most Oasis-y song of the album, & the one most people should like. So, yes, for me it is a real commercial failure given the potential of that song. That or everybody (journalists, radio DJs, radio listeners) agree that "For what it's worth" is dull & doesn't deserve more exposure & success than it got. I'm not the greatest fan of this song, nevertheless I find this latter option quite improbable. Maybe, just maybe, it's not that great of a tune for non Oasis fans to like and turn into a radio hit. It's just an ok song. Nothing more. Nothing less. Agreed. It's a decent song, some nice lyrics and Liam sounds good. Nothing more. Chris Moyles didn't help with the "It's absolutely brilliant" as it raised expectations high.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 27, 2017 13:33:17 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, it's not that great of a tune for non Oasis fans to like and turn into a radio hit. It's just an ok song. Nothing more. Nothing less. Agreed. It's a decent song, some nice lyrics and Liam sounds good. Nothing more. Chris Moyles didn't help with the "It's absolutely brilliant" as it raised expectations high. Its pretty obvious that Chris Moyles should not be an A&R man.
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Post by Derrick on Aug 27, 2017 16:07:32 GMT -5
Fuck Chris Moyles for claiming this was gonna be a great song!
Poor choice of a single from Warners as well...
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