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Post by cloudburster on Aug 29, 2017 17:59:46 GMT -5
Fuck Chris Moyles for claiming this was gonna be a great song! Poor choice of a single from Warners as well... I think it's a fine choice for a single. It's obviously commercial and radio friendly and would be lapped up by the Adele-Coldplay-Ed Sheeran masses if it was promoted more like Wall of glass was. Listen to Thinking Out Loud and then For What it's Worth. Not a huge difference. Still not sure why it got such a low key release. Maybe they spunked all the promo on Wall of glass.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 29, 2017 18:04:30 GMT -5
Fuck Chris Moyles for claiming this was gonna be a great song! Poor choice of a single from Warners as well... I think it's a fine choice for a single. It's obviously commercial and radio friendly and would be lapped up by the Adele-Coldplay-Ed Sheeran masses if it was promoted more like Wall of glass was. Listen to Thinking Out Loud and then For What it's Worth. Not a huge difference. Still not sure why it got such a low key release. Maybe they spunked all the promo on Wall of glass. They might have hoped that Liam's name would be enough? And it's possible that WOG gave them a false indicator. WOG was the first single and it charted really well, but what also helped it stay in the charts longer was the Manchester One Love gig. They kinda got some free publicity there. Take out the Manchester One Love gig, and the natural attention WOG got because it was the first single, and it doesn't feel like they put anymore or less promotion into this as they did with WOG.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 29, 2017 18:16:42 GMT -5
I think it's a fine choice for a single. It's obviously commercial and radio friendly and would be lapped up by the Adele-Coldplay-Ed Sheeran masses if it was promoted more like Wall of glass was. Listen to Thinking Out Loud and then For What it's Worth. Not a huge difference. Still not sure why it got such a low key release. Maybe they spunked all the promo on Wall of glass. They might have hoped that Liam's name would be enough? And it's possible that WOG gave them a false indicator. WOG was the first single and it charted really well, but what also helped it stay in the charts longer was the Manchester One Love gig. They kinda got some free publicity there. Take out the Manchester One Love gig, and the natural attention WOG got because it was the first single, and it doesn't feel like they put anymore or less promotion into this as they did with WOG. I dunno, I feel like we got a lot more build up to Wall of glass which is natural as it's Liam's first comeback single like you say.
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Post by frogerz on Aug 30, 2017 12:50:47 GMT -5
Scraped into top 100 at #100 in the midweek chart.
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 31, 2017 3:44:35 GMT -5
I think it's a fine choice for a single. It's obviously commercial and radio friendly and would be lapped up by the Adele-Coldplay-Ed Sheeran masses if it was promoted more like Wall of glass was. Listen to Thinking Out Loud and then For What it's Worth. Not a huge difference. Still not sure why it got such a low key release. Maybe they spunked all the promo on Wall of glass. They might have hoped that Liam's name would be enough? And it's possible that WOG gave them a false indicator. WOG was the first single and it charted really well, but what also helped it stay in the charts longer was the Manchester One Love gig. They kinda got some free publicity there. Take out the Manchester One Love gig, and the natural attention WOG got because it was the first single, and it doesn't feel like they put anymore or less promotion into this as they did with WOG. I think they should have held it back a couple of weeks for when Liam was back from Asia for Reading and Leeds, he could have done a few more interviews and even shot a proper video. As it is I don't think it's performed that badly, just following the general trend of post-Oasis singles but it should add to the album sales eventually.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 31, 2017 6:27:35 GMT -5
They might have hoped that Liam's name would be enough? And it's possible that WOG gave them a false indicator. WOG was the first single and it charted really well, but what also helped it stay in the charts longer was the Manchester One Love gig. They kinda got some free publicity there. Take out the Manchester One Love gig, and the natural attention WOG got because it was the first single, and it doesn't feel like they put anymore or less promotion into this as they did with WOG. I think they should have held it back a couple of weeks for when Liam was back from Asia for Reading and Leeds, he could have done a few more interviews and even shot a proper video. As it is I don't think it's performed that badly, just following the general trend of post-Oasis singles but it should add to the album sales eventually. I thought and early September release for FWIW was a good idea. Overall it doesn't matter though. Like you said, all post Oasis songs trend in the same direction regardless of ones efforts.
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 31, 2017 6:30:43 GMT -5
I think they should have held it back a couple of weeks for when Liam was back from Asia for Reading and Leeds, he could have done a few more interviews and even shot a proper video. As it is I don't think it's performed that badly, just following the general trend of post-Oasis singles but it should add to the album sales eventually. I thought and early September release for FWIW was a good idea. Overall it doesn't matter though. Like you said, all post Oasis songs trend in the same direction regardless of ones efforts. Even I've stopped buying singles having been as loyal a buyer as probably everyone here. If there aren't any b-sides then I'm happy just streaming the songs until the album comes out. The death of the b-side has pissed me off no end.
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Post by GlastoEls on Aug 31, 2017 6:38:21 GMT -5
I thought and early September release for FWIW was a good idea. Overall it doesn't matter though. Like you said, all post Oasis songs trend in the same direction regardless of ones efforts. Even I've stopped buying singles having been as loyal a buyer as probably everyone here. Â If there aren't any b-sides then I'm happy just streaming the songs until the album comes out. Â The death of the b-side has pissed me off no end. True. The b-side has become the "deluxe edition extra track" which to me is silly - the album should be a defined piece with a definite closer (Champagne Supernova, Roll It Over) not random tracks bunged on the end.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 31, 2017 6:38:35 GMT -5
I thought and early September release for FWIW was a good idea. Overall it doesn't matter though. Like you said, all post Oasis songs trend in the same direction regardless of ones efforts. Even I've stopped buying singles having been as loyal a buyer as probably everyone here. If there aren't any b-sides then I'm happy just streaming the songs until the album comes out. The death of the b-side has pissed me off no end. Do artist even really release physical singles outside vinyl 7"? It makes no sense anymore. So quick to just upload to iTunes, spotify, etc and unleash. No production costs.
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Post by walterglass on Aug 31, 2017 15:40:41 GMT -5
Arenas? ?? You kidding? He doesn't even have an album out yet. No. I am not kidding nor cracking wise. The casual fans are bubbling again. It's all in bag now. I've been a bad, bad, BAD, bad man. How you like me now?
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Post by Derrick on Sept 1, 2017 14:14:56 GMT -5
Predictably (& sadly), "For what it's worth" has dropped out of the charts after a paltry 2 weeks in the top 100. Let's hope the official video will kick it back in when it is FINALLY released.
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Post by Jgrp on Sept 1, 2017 16:13:03 GMT -5
Did oasis release all the singles before album? I thought they dropped off cos the album was released by the time the 3rd was out. Could be remembering wrong though
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 2, 2017 9:43:51 GMT -5
Did oasis release all the singles before album? I thought they dropped off cos the album was released by the time the 3rd was out. Could be remembering wrong though I don't think they ever released three singles before the album, certainly after WTSMG anyway. Generally the singles didn't really drop off in terms of success because of the b-sides. TIOBI, AATW and DLBIA were all number ones well after the album got released. DOYS was the first album where it was all changing and I got really confused by single releases, for example I remember having Falling Down as a free download before the album, which they then also released as their last full single. Seemed a bit pointless to me.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 2, 2017 9:52:19 GMT -5
Did oasis release all the singles before album? I thought they dropped off cos the album was released by the time the 3rd was out. Could be remembering wrong though I don't think they ever released three singles before the album, certainly after WTSMG anyway. Generally the singles didn't really drop off in terms of success because of the b-sides. TIOBI, AATW and DLBIA were all number ones well after the album got released. DOYS was the first album where it was all changing and I got really confused by single releases, for example I remember having Falling Down as a free download before the album, which they then also released as their last full single. Seemed a bit pointless to me. Yes indeed. That was so fucking stupid. Nobody is gonna pay for a song when you has A) already made it a free download leading up the album and B) the album was already out in stores and iTunes. You could download whatever song you want at that point. The Shock of The Lighting could have easily been their final UK #1. Their mistake was releasing it to radio 3 weeks before its physical and iTunes sale. That was dumb. It was heavily pirated at that point.
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 2, 2017 10:18:46 GMT -5
I don't think they ever released three singles before the album, certainly after WTSMG anyway. Generally the singles didn't really drop off in terms of success because of the b-sides. TIOBI, AATW and DLBIA were all number ones well after the album got released. DOYS was the first album where it was all changing and I got really confused by single releases, for example I remember having Falling Down as a free download before the album, which they then also released as their last full single. Seemed a bit pointless to me. Yes indeed. That was so fucking stupid. Nobody is gonna pay for a song when you has A) already made it a free download leading up the album and B) the album was already out in stores and iTunes. You could download whatever song you want at that point. The Shock of The Lighting could have easily been their final UK #1. Their mistake was releasing it to radio 3 weeks before its physical and iTunes sale. That was dumb. It was heavily pirated at that point. Did Shock of the Lightning have a b-side or just a stupid remix? I reckon there would have been plenty of fans who would have bought a CD single with Boy With The Blues as a b-side for example.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 2, 2017 10:21:23 GMT -5
Yes indeed. That was so fucking stupid. Nobody is gonna pay for a song when you has A) already made it a free download leading up the album and B) the album was already out in stores and iTunes. You could download whatever song you want at that point. The Shock of The Lighting could have easily been their final UK #1. Their mistake was releasing it to radio 3 weeks before its physical and iTunes sale. That was dumb. It was heavily pirated at that point. Did Shock of the Lightning have a b-side or just a stupid remix? I reckon there would have been plenty of fans who would have bought a CD single with Boy With The Blues as a b-side for example. I believe remixes.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 2, 2017 10:43:16 GMT -5
Shock CD: Falling Down" (Chemical Brothers remix).
Hmmm.
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Post by Manualex on Sept 2, 2017 11:37:15 GMT -5
Did Shock of the Lightning have a b-side or just a stupid remix? Â I reckon there would have been plenty of fans who would have bought a CD single with Boy With The Blues as a b-side for example. Â I believe remixes. It was either a remix or Lord Dont Slow me down... Either was pointless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 2, 2017 12:01:47 GMT -5
It was either a remix or Lord Dont Slow me down... Either was pointless. Gotta love when "Lord Don't Slow Me Down" was a single they backed it with live versions of Oasis songs. They "supposedly" had over 40 songs during DBTT and they offer us this piece of shit single? Gross.
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Post by walterglass on Sept 2, 2017 13:36:59 GMT -5
Did oasis release all the singles before album? I thought they dropped off cos the album was released by the time the 3rd was out. Could be remembering wrong though I suppose it makes sense to release singles prior to the album nowadays. We/people generally were happy to buy singles, even if we had the song on an album, partly because we had record COLLECTIONS. And our collection was something we'd be proud of; I've seen plenty of people over the years post photographs of their Oasis collections. Now that we download, well I've never known anybody take great pride in their iTunes downloads. The second reason to buy a single post-album release was for the b-sides, but they've - as somebody in this thread has already said - become the extra tracks on deluxe editions of albums. And they've released the current singles very early - in relation to the album release - could this be to get them out prior to the dreaded leak? It'd probably make sense to release one more single prior to album release and possibly a stand-alone single - a la Whatever - around Xmas.
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Post by Derrick on Sept 2, 2017 13:56:10 GMT -5
Yes indeed. That was so fucking stupid. Nobody is gonna pay for a song when you has A) already made it a free download leading up the album and B) the album was already out in stores and iTunes. You could download whatever song you want at that point. The Shock of The Lighting could have easily been their final UK #1. Their mistake was releasing it to radio 3 weeks before its physical and iTunes sale. That was dumb. It was heavily pirated at that point. Did Shock of the Lightning have a b-side or just a stupid remix? I reckon there would have been plenty of fans who would have bought a CD single with Boy With The Blues as a b-side for example. It was a pointless remix, didn't surprise me that much that it didn't reach #1 since all us Oasis fans bought the singles looking for great b-sides. There was absolutely no point in forking out extra money for a stupid remix no one cared about, we'd all heard "The shock of the lightning" for 3 weeks already & it was wiser to save money to buy the overpriced super deluxe box set if we wanted to get unreleased songs.
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 4, 2017 14:22:10 GMT -5
FWIW was #78 on AAA radio last week, not sure where it's at this week but not in the top 50. But it jumped from #71 to #50 on Alternative radio.
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 4, 2017 14:23:49 GMT -5
This is after Wall of Glass peaked at #110 on Alternative radio and #111 on AAA radio in July (which is shockingly low imo, but I'm guessing Warners did fuck-all for it in the states)
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 4, 2017 20:56:43 GMT -5
Dare I say it, this maybe Liam's last chance to gain any slight momentum in the states since Warners won't do it. I just checked and it looks like the song's momentum is slowing as there are no additional radio stations adding the song to their playlists. I would highly encourage all you American lot to take two minutes out of your day and request the song to your local Alternative or AAA station via email or social media.
A good nationwide one that serves as a bit of a tastemaker would be SiriusXM's The Spectrum (thespectrum@siriusxm.com) and Alt Nation (AltNation@sirusxm.com).
There's also famous ones like KROQ (playing a non-Bittersweet Symphony Verve song as we speak), KCRW (who premiered "Flick of the Finger"), etc. etc.
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Post by blurareshit on Sept 4, 2017 21:18:10 GMT -5
Speak of the devil, I tweeted my local station about an hour ago and they played it just now.
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