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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 3, 2023 10:38:44 GMT -5
Relax folks. We got a solid 2-3 year wait. It might be longer than that knowing Noel. He always does this when starting an album cycle promo, even for Oasis, He boasts about all these songs and potential albums. Then its years and years before any such album appears and its never as adventurous as he makes it out to be. This time it was "I've got 2 albums, one acoustic, one straight rock n roll". Good luck with all that. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 3, 2023 13:37:42 GMT -5
It might be longer than that knowing Noel. He always does this when starting an album cycle promo, even for Oasis, He boasts about all these songs and potential albums. Then its years and years before any such album appears and its never as adventurous as he makes it out to be. This time it was "I've got 2 albums, one acoustic, one straight rock n roll". Good luck with all that. Yeah, you're right with Noel it's a case of expect a new album when it's officially announced and not before. |
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Post by walkersafc on Dec 3, 2023 15:28:33 GMT -5
To be honest i’d rather he brought more albums out and packed in touring. It’s the first tour i’ve never bothered with. Just got no excitement to hear him play only 90 minutes and sing Mighty Quinn etc
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Post by matt on Dec 3, 2023 17:24:00 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam.
Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2023 8:04:06 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam. Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale. I want a new Oasis project. The rarities/b-sides album that got canceled seemed so exciting. What a shame for the fans! I’d expect a DM 30th anniversary album but I’d prefer any “new” material for that be saved for an Oasis anthology style release. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 4, 2023 9:31:40 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam. Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale. I want a new Oasis project. The rarities/b-sides album that got canceled seemed so exciting. What a shame for the fans! I’d expect a DM 30th anniversary album but I’d prefer any “new” material for that be saved for an Oasis anthology style release. Me too, but not the piecemeal single disc that was proposed. |
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Post by thuperthonic on Dec 4, 2023 9:57:51 GMT -5
He always does this when starting an album cycle promo, even for Oasis, He boasts about all these songs and potential albums. Then its years and years before any such album appears and its never as adventurous as he makes it out to be. This time it was "I've got 2 albums, one acoustic, one straight rock n roll". Good luck with all that. Yeah, you're right with Noel it's a case of expect a new album when it's officially announced and not before. Don't forget, he announced the AA album and never released it so even announcing it isn't totally reliable lmao. |
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Post by dadrocker on Dec 4, 2023 10:43:18 GMT -5
Relax folks. We got a solid 2-3 year wait. 2-3 years wait? So that means the first single next week, right?  Then album announcement come October 2024. Then second single Spring 2025, third single late summer 2025, early 2026 for the fourth single, October 2026 for the album. Sounds like a plan, eh Noel? |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 4, 2023 13:51:17 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right with Noel it's a case of expect a new album when it's officially announced and not before. Don't forget, he announced the AA album and never released it so even announcing it isn't totally reliable lmao. Yeah you're right there. We all know that Noel says one thing and does another. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 4, 2023 13:53:28 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam. Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale. I want a new Oasis project. The rarities/b-sides album that got canceled seemed so exciting. What a shame for the fans! I’d expect a DM 30th anniversary album but I’d prefer any “new” material for that be saved for an Oasis anthology style release. Me too but I think that all Oasis fans would want that. |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 4, 2023 13:55:18 GMT -5
I want a new Oasis project. The rarities/b-sides album that got canceled seemed so exciting. What a shame for the fans! I’d expect a DM 30th anniversary album but I’d prefer any “new” material for that be saved for an Oasis anthology style release. Me too, but not the piecemeal single disc that was proposed. Totally agree, a boxed set with everything that hasn't been released should also be included as well. |
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Post by mossy on Dec 4, 2023 18:25:50 GMT -5
Chill guys, there’ll be some remixes for us on a RSD before 2026 😂
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2023 19:44:28 GMT -5
Fuck you Noel!
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Post by AubreyOasis on Dec 5, 2023 0:23:48 GMT -5
Chill guys, there’ll be some remixes for us on a RSD before 2026 😂 Maybe a demo by year's end like in 2020 and 2021....keep the faith |
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Post by niftium on Dec 5, 2023 8:58:00 GMT -5
Chill guys, there’ll be some remixes for us on a RSD before 2026 😂 Pretty Boy (Robert Smith Remix) [The Reflex Revision] Can't wait! |
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 5, 2023 13:41:10 GMT -5
Chill guys, there’ll be some remixes for us on a RSD before 2026 😂 Let's hope not but you're probably right. |
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Post by walkersafc on Dec 5, 2023 14:52:49 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam. Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale. You see the likes of Springsteen/macca etc doing 3 hours live. If Noel did an hours worth of new material then even 1 hours classic oasis it would be a show worth seeing. Of his live set the only thing I really love is Dead in The Water. I’m bored of the rest. |
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Post by matt on Dec 5, 2023 16:22:54 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam. Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale. You see the likes of Springsteen/macca etc doing 3 hours live. If Noel did an hours worth of new material then even 1 hours classic oasis it would be a show worth seeing. Of his live set the only thing I really love is Dead in The Water. I’m bored of the rest.He's just not willing to take risks, barring Who Built The Moon (his dance EPs, for all that people harp on about him trying to be different, are pretty dull and too polished in the studio much like his usual stuff). I'm just bored of his solo career. Council Skies is probably the most inconsequential album he's released as far as I'm concerned. Not the worst, but the point at which I'm checking out. Which is fine for a lot of people, he could churn out Chasing Yesterday's or Council Skies every year and some people would lap it up, but there's no element of surprise to his songs. When I hear dreary mid tempo plodders like There She Blows, well, I've heard it a million times already in the last decade. Goes for so many of his songs these days. |
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Post by glider on Dec 5, 2023 17:40:42 GMT -5
You see the likes of Springsteen/macca etc doing 3 hours live. If Noel did an hours worth of new material then even 1 hours classic oasis it would be a show worth seeing. Of his live set the only thing I really love is Dead in The Water. I’m bored of the rest.He's just not willing to take risks, barring Who Built The Moon (his dance EPs, for all that people harp on about him trying to be different, are pretty dull and too polished in the studio much like his usual stuff). I'm just bored of his solo career. Council Skies is probably the most inconsequential album he's released as far as I'm concerned. Not the worst, but the point at which I'm checking out. Which is fine for a lot of people, he could churn out Chasing Yesterday's or Council Skies every year and some people would lap it up, but there's no element of surprise to his songs. When I hear dreary mid tempo plodders like There She Blows, well, I've heard it a million times already in the last decade. Goes for so many of his songs these days. Whether it was the lockdowns or the divorce, 2020 was a year that essentially clipped the wings of his High Flying Birds. Watch the band in 2019 and no matter what you think of the EPs, the chemistry is there, the energy is ecstatic, the performances are eclectic, for both HFB and Oasis tunes - everything is just working. Noel was clearly at a point of creative clarity and freedom that he was seeking to reach for a long time. The momentum is full speed ahead for him and everything slammed into a brick wall circa March 2020. Not being able to tour with that lineup anymore was a major loss, and then when everything else in his personal life changed, it was over. Now we're back to square one. All the work David Holmes did to give us that 2017-2019 version of Noel is mostly lost. Doesn't play a single tune from WTBM, except for DITW if you want to count that, and zero EP tracks. I don't know what else to say. I anticipated a retreat from the "cosmic pop" back in 2019 but I didn't expect things to seem this dreary. Even the album release time seemed depressing. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Dec 5, 2023 18:40:50 GMT -5
Got to the stage where I'm not overly fussed about another Noel solo album. Same goes for Liam. Something interesting needs to happen, things are getting a bit stale. Must disagree, respectfully. IMO, Dead to the World and Think Of A Number are two of the finest songs Noel has ever written. Sophisticated, serene, and vulnerable. Things are getting much, much better for me and I'm already excited about the next one! |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Dec 6, 2023 5:18:48 GMT -5
^This. I think many people might be mixing up the lack of motion in the setlists, which are stale as week old bread (IMO) with the LP which is a banger. I've gone away from it and come back after a bit and it's still a minor classic for me, and it's probably given me the most joy out of all 4 releases - if it isn't "the best".
Imagine being given a gift of Dead to the World, as a fan, at this late stage of the game, and being... "Meh", it just doesn't compute for me.
Noel's 56, he is set in his ways and we are not going to get A) experimentalism, B) an album of fast, youthful tunes like Bring it on Down, C) consistent top down classics like DM - MG - Masterplan / bsides, or any thing close to it anymore.
Judged under those criteria, Council Skies is a fab collection and, you know what, if it takes another 4 years for the next CD, this album will continue to provide me with plenty more great listens while I patiently wait.
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Post by halfthetalktonight on Dec 6, 2023 8:21:27 GMT -5
I am split down the middle of both sides, I thought his 2019 gigs were amazing (and loved some of the b-sides to the EPs if not the singles), but I went to see him play one of his forest gigs in London in June 2022 and it was really poor, like a NG tribute act. I really like his new album but think it does cater to the ney-sayers a bit.
Like one of the posts above, I think he and Liam need a refresh. I think they've both taken the solo route as far as it will go. If they wait more than a couple of years to reform Oasis they've missed the boat due to age imo. It doesn't sound like NG has any plans whatsoever to change his plans of a new album in 2026 to do anything with Oasis so maybe that's all it will be. Still excited by the prospect of a Liam x John Squire album though.
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Post by glider on Dec 6, 2023 9:24:54 GMT -5
^This. I think many people might be mixing up the lack of motion in the setlists, which are stale as week old bread (IMO) with the LP which is a banger. I've gone away from it and come back after a bit and it's still a minor classic for me, and it's probably given me the most joy out of all 4 releases - if it isn't "the best". Imagine being given a gift of Dead to the World, as a fan, at this late stage of the game, and being... "Meh", it just doesn't compute for me. Noel's 56, he is set in his ways and we are not going to get A) experimentalism, B) an album of fast, youthful tunes like Bring it on Down, C) consistent top down classics like DM - MG - Masterplan / bsides, or any thing close to it anymore. Judged under those criteria, Council Skies is a fab collection and, you know what, if it takes another 4 years for the next CD, this album will continue to provide me with plenty more great listens while I patiently wait. I think Dead To The World is great, no disagreements there. Same with Think of A Number, and Trying to Find A World That's Been and Gone which is mystic beauty. But I don't believe we shouldn't expect him not to "experiment", or go in a different musical direction. He certainly proved to us he wasn't set in his ways from 2017-2019, and seemed rather enthusiastic about breaking the traditional songwriting mold he'd been nurtured in for his whole career. If anything he's purposefully limiting himself at this point, which is more detrimental. Council Skies is unremarkable as in it's not a bad record, but it's a record that he can make in his sleep and retreads his old tropes far too often. |
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Post by spaneli on Dec 6, 2023 10:06:36 GMT -5
I'm fine with Council Skies. There are nice moments on it, certainly a return to what he did, ironically, on Chasing Yesterday.
I think, overall, his work has been extremely varied. Much as he brags about making "out there" tunes, he's never going to be the guy who'll pull the trigger on an AA project. He might not even be the guy who can fully land it. He also has limitations as a co-writer, and is a fairly limited player.
I think, however, what Holmes understood about Noel is that he's a good mimic. He can copy any sound, and if he copies enough new sounds, he can make something very unique for himself. The problem with that is Noel doesn't like to struggle. He's a diligent worker, particularly in his own process. But he doesn't like to struggle in another process. And what Holmes asked of for him wasn't just to struggle, but for Noel to be very raw and open about his own limitations. I think if Noel were a more accomplished player, he'd probably welcome that kind of tension. Because he'd have enough confidence in his skill to eventually land it. But Noel is always going to be self-conscious about his limitations, and I think that's ultimately why he hasn't worked with Holmes since or another producer like Holmes. And instead thinks he can replicate that creativity on his own. He simply doesn't want to be that open again.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 6, 2023 12:18:29 GMT -5
I'm fine with Council Skies. There are nice moments on it, certainly a return to what he did, ironically, on Chasing Yesterday. I think, overall, his work has been extremely varied. Much as he brags about making "out there" tunes, he's never going to be the guy who'll pull the trigger on an AA project. He might not even be the guy who can fully land it. He also has limitations as a co-writer, and is a fairly limited player. I think, however, what Holmes understood about Noel is that he's a good mimic. He can copy any sound, and if he copies enough new sounds, he can make something very unique for himself. The problem with that is Noel doesn't like to struggle. He's a diligent worker, particularly in his own process. But he doesn't like to struggle in another process. And what Holmes asked of for him wasn't just to struggle, but for Noel to be very raw and open about his own limitations. I think if Noel were a more accomplished player, he'd probably welcome that kind of tension. Because he'd have enough confidence in his skill to eventually land it. But Noel is always going to be self-conscious about his limitations, and I think that's ultimately why he hasn't worked with Holmes since or another producer like Holmes. And instead thinks he can replicate that creativity on his own. He simply doesn't want to be that open again. Even with MOON it seemed like a project that needed a little more time to cook. He admits he screwed up the sequencing of tracks. The album does feel 1-2 songs short. I wish Black Star and This Is The Place were on MOON. It needed to be rounded out more. Always felt cheap how Noel included Dead In The Water on this album. I know it’s a bonus track but it is mostly what is praised from this LP. |
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Then album announcement come October 2024. Then second single Spring 2025, third single late summer 2025, early 2026 for the fourth single, October 2026 for the album. Sounds like a plan, eh Noel? 
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