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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 2, 2022 15:57:59 GMT -5
How has this thread descended into Liam vs. Noel? Don't think it has as such, or at least not maliciously like in the past where people have tried to put down the other one. But a lot of people had asked why he didn't play more of his solo songs - the reason is because people go to Liam gigs to hear the hits.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 2, 2022 16:13:26 GMT -5
What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. Think Beady Eye were doomed to fail from more or less the start for a number of reasons. The public were sick of Liam by then and their PR and marketing was a disaster. They did the complete opposite of Liam's solo career - they had the perfect lead single in Four Letter Word but released the most anti-Oasis song imaginable in Bring the Light and any intrigue Oasis fans had was blown out. Then you had Liam prattling on about how he was sick of playing stadiums and how DGSS was better than Definitely Maybe and the Beatles/Rolling Stones photoshoots and artwork. That's before you get to the music... I don't think there is a massive difference between his solo work and Beady Eye - his solo work is better overall but Beady Eye's best work is up there with it. But I think the combination of Supersonic, Liam going away and coming back in time for the best generation of young fans getting into Oasis and his brilliant PR work in embracing Oasis is the difference. Back to the original point, there's no way he'd sell out Knebworth and stadium gigs without playing the hits and he knows that. I could live without hearing Cigarettes and Alcohol and Supersonic but it pays the bills so to speak. Think with Noel there is a different vibe at his gigs, they are more relaxed and don't attract as many knobheads, but he has a pretty good solo catalogue to choose from himself. He's reached a level where he can sell out arenas and the occasional big gig on his solo work with the odd Oasis hit thrown in to pad it out, whereas Liam is mainly Oasis with the odd solo song (worth pointing out that the last 5 songs on the main set were all solo songs though). Noel will never recreate the big stadium feel though which is what people pay for with Liam and why Liam sells more tickets now. I agree with most of that. The demographic that are watching them has changed. There is a new youth culture that has discovered Oasis and grabbed on to Liam’s solo career as part of that. Liam wants to do communal music and Noel doesn’t, or simply isn’t writing the songs that lend them self to that.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 2, 2022 16:16:28 GMT -5
Not even remotely suggesting it was malicious -- but there is definitely a lot of talk about Noel's career above that seems mostly irrelevant to reviews of Liam's show at the Etihad. Was just surprised to see the turn this thread took onto a whole other topic barely 12 hours after the show! But for sure it happens all the time and is part of the deal. (And I agree that a core part of the audience goes to hear old hits. It's not the only kind of audience, but Liam clearly understands it's a big one.)
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Post by Jgrp on Jun 2, 2022 16:53:56 GMT -5
The set is 55% oasis 45% Liam solo. 100% Liam sung songs. Any split around 50/50 either way makes sense to me and they’re all songs liam made. Get over it moaners
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Post by mancraider on Jun 2, 2022 18:07:20 GMT -5
Full More Power. Sounds really good.
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Post by powerage09 on Jun 2, 2022 18:52:33 GMT -5
How long did The Charlatans play for? Guessing an hour so that means 35 minute changeover before LG?
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 3, 2022 1:11:19 GMT -5
How long did The Charlatans play for? Guessing an hour so that means 35 minute changeover before LG? It was an hour, yes
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Post by goletitout1986 on Jun 3, 2022 2:35:44 GMT -5
How long was liam's set overall? Seems longer than 90mins for 22 songs.
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Post by Sadie on Jun 3, 2022 5:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 3, 2022 5:46:52 GMT -5
What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. Think Beady Eye were doomed to fail from more or less the start for a number of reasons. The public were sick of Liam by then and their PR and marketing was a disaster. They did the complete opposite of Liam's solo career - they had the perfect lead single in Four Letter Word but released the most anti-Oasis song imaginable in Bring the Light and any intrigue Oasis fans had was blown out. Then you had Liam prattling on about how he was sick of playing stadiums and how DGSS was better than Definitely Maybe and the Beatles/Rolling Stones photoshoots and artwork. That's before you get to the music... I don't think there is a massive difference between his solo work and Beady Eye - his solo work is better overall but Beady Eye's best work is up there with it. But I think the combination of Supersonic, Liam going away and coming back in time for the best generation of young fans getting into Oasis and his brilliant PR work in embracing Oasis is the difference. Back to the original point, there's no way he'd sell out Knebworth and stadium gigs without playing the hits and he knows that. I could live without hearing Cigarettes and Alcohol and Supersonic but it pays the bills so to speak. Think with Noel there is a different vibe at his gigs, they are more relaxed and don't attract as many knobheads, but he has a pretty good solo catalogue to choose from himself. He's reached a level where he can sell out arenas and the occasional big gig on his solo work with the odd Oasis hit thrown in to pad it out, whereas Liam is mainly Oasis with the odd solo song (worth pointing out that the last 5 songs on the main set were all solo songs though). Noel will never recreate the big stadium feel though which is what people pay for with Liam and why Liam sells more tickets now. 100% agree with you on all this.
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 3, 2022 5:50:21 GMT -5
How has this thread descended into Liam vs. Noel? lol. In all honesty I never got the Liam vs Noel crap. Really can’t understand it. There both in my eyes the same love them both.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 3, 2022 11:05:07 GMT -5
How long was liam's set overall? Seems longer than 90mins for 22 songs. 1 hour 50 minutes. Came on at 9pm, 1st encore was about 10:15pm ish and finished up bang on 10:50pm.
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Post by plaskins1 on Jun 4, 2022 18:19:41 GMT -5
Probably my favourite Liam gig to date since the Oasis days. Smashed it!
Only got a couple of short videos
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Post by plaskins1 on Jun 4, 2022 18:59:00 GMT -5
Dunno if this has been posted previously,but full gig and not to shabby recording. Tops to whoever did it!
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Post by nutsngum on Jun 5, 2022 9:55:26 GMT -5
completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. Liam sounded exactly like he does now on that first Beady Eye tour. The second round tour, granted he'd let himself go a bit because of all the stuff in his personal life.
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Post by jorgendif on Jun 5, 2022 10:43:45 GMT -5
What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. Liam sounded exactly like he does now on that first Beady Eye tour. The second round tour, granted he'd let himself go a bit because of all the stuff in his personal life. No he didnt sound like now. He was good but cutting words and not as good as now
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Post by slush on Jun 5, 2022 17:17:55 GMT -5
Wait wait what? I was there (flew in from Canada) and the show was mental! Seen them (oasis,liam,noel) over 20x and best vibe yet.
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Post by garylineker on Jun 5, 2022 18:14:08 GMT -5
Absolutely loved the gig. Had to go to this instead of Knebworth last minute because of travel arrangements.
In response to that post above, Liam is on another level entirely to what he was on that first Beady Eye tour (which admittedly is very underrated for Liams voice because he did bring it back a lot compared to 2008). But honestly watch Rockfield. No a hope in hell he could sing like that in 2011.
Back to the gig- I just stop and smile sometimes knowing I was at college and almost being mocked for Oasis being my favourite band. How uncool it was and the rest of it. Now I look at my favourite singer in venues like this with kids younger than I was at college belting our every word and i feel vindicated.
If I'm being ultra picky I think the set falls flat slightly where the new stuff comes in. He would benefit from one new one, one old one back to back just to keep the momentum. But overall I loved it and its added to the great Liam live experiences I could never imagined since 2017.
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