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Post by Supersonic on Jun 2, 2022 9:29:18 GMT -5
Was there last night, the atmosphere was immense and Liam was on top form! Anyone know if someone was able to tape this gig? If not I’ll slowly start to put together a YouTube compilation of full songs that I can find. we.tl/t-sWiMED7vNJ Straight rip of my Champagne Supernova video, in Flac.
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Post by reubenwhitee on Jun 2, 2022 9:40:02 GMT -5
Was there last night, the atmosphere was immense and Liam was on top form! Anyone know if someone was able to tape this gig? If not I’ll slowly start to put together a YouTube compilation of full songs that I can find. we.tl/t-sWiMED7vNJ Straight rip of my Champagne Supernova video, in Flac. Cheers mate, Top Man
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Jun 2, 2022 9:49:51 GMT -5
What do you think of Rock n Roll Star after Hello? I would think it works better as a opener, closer or encore closer instead of #2. He sounds great from what I've seen. Only dud for me is Shockwave, awful song. 100% 👍🏻
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 2, 2022 10:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 2, 2022 10:41:27 GMT -5
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 11:42:36 GMT -5
I agree with thoughts of this thread.. i'd include some more solo hits over some of the long in the tooth oasis songs. I'd also theme the gig around the solo stuff more, like open with more power and make it a magical opening.. Have the choir singing and him walk out to open with his voice. take out shockwave, wonderwall, supersonic, hello.. add in some new solo stuff as much as I would prefer him to play more solo stuff in general. There’s no way he would be selling out etihad if that was the case or Knebworth. 80% of audience only go because of the oasis songs that’s a fact. Even if beady eye come out today there still be as big as they got because there never pleat any oasis tunes in the first tour and word got round. The setlist would be to weak. Look at Noel same with him he plays less oasis tunes now and can’t even sell out a forest.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 2, 2022 12:19:40 GMT -5
I agree with thoughts of this thread.. i'd include some more solo hits over some of the long in the tooth oasis songs. I'd also theme the gig around the solo stuff more, like open with more power and make it a magical opening.. Have the choir singing and him walk out to open with his voice. take out shockwave, wonderwall, supersonic, hello.. add in some new solo stuff as much as I would prefer him to play more solo stuff in general. There’s no way he would be selling out etihad if that was the case or Knebworth. 80% of audience only go because of the oasis songs that’s a fact. Even if beady eye come out today there still be as big as they got because there never pleat any oasis tunes in the first tour and word got round. The setlist would be to weak. Look at Noel same with him he plays less oasis tunes now and can’t even sell out a forest. Noel would never be able to sell as much as Liam even if he played 25 Oasis songs. Liam manages to create an "atmosphere of greatness" that Noel, despite being an excellent songwriter, would never be able to create. To make great concerts you need to be great frontmen first and then have great songs immediately behind.
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 12:43:19 GMT -5
as much as I would prefer him to play more solo stuff in general. There’s no way he would be selling out etihad if that was the case or Knebworth. 80% of audience only go because of the oasis songs that’s a fact. Even if beady eye come out today there still be as big as they got because there never pleat any oasis tunes in the first tour and word got round. The setlist would be to weak. Look at Noel same with him he plays less oasis tunes now and can’t even sell out a forest. Noel would never be able to sell as much as Liam even if he played 25 Oasis songs. Liam manages to create an "atmosphere of greatness" that Noel, despite being an excellent songwriter, would never be able to create. To make great concerts you need to be great frontmen first and then have great songs immediately behind. completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Jun 2, 2022 12:47:55 GMT -5
Noel would never be able to sell as much as Liam even if he played 25 Oasis songs. Liam manages to create an "atmosphere of greatness" that Noel, despite being an excellent songwriter, would never be able to create. To make great concerts you need to be great frontmen first and then have great songs immediately behind. completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. Agree with a lot of that but Noel isn't selling out shows the size that Liam is.
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 12:54:16 GMT -5
completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. Agree with a lot of that but Noel isn't selling out shows the size that Liam is. very true just think Noel hasn’t done his self any flavours saying he didn’t want any parka wearing oasis fans at his gigs and he was be cocky about writing music to please him not the fans. I like some of his later solo material love them both. We as fans have the best of both worlds now great stuff from both Gallaghers. I remember when oasis where around loads of people used to hate Liam used to think he was a cocky twat. But now he’s changed massively changed now.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 2, 2022 12:55:20 GMT -5
Noel would never be able to sell as much as Liam even if he played 25 Oasis songs. Liam manages to create an "atmosphere of greatness" that Noel, despite being an excellent songwriter, would never be able to create. To make great concerts you need to be great frontmen first and then have great songs immediately behind. completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. That does rely on the assumption that fans feel the same way about Beady Eye songs as they do about Liam solo ones. Which doesn’t appear to be the case
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 12:55:27 GMT -5
Agree with a lot of that but Noel isn't selling out shows the size that Liam is. very true just think Noel hasn’t done his self any flavours saying he didn’t want any parka wearing oasis fans at his gigs and he was be cocky about writing music to please him not the fans. I like some of his later solo material love them both. We as fans have the best of both worlds now great stuff from both Gallaghers. I remember when oasis where around loads of people used to hate Liam used to think he was a cocky twat. But now he’s changed massively changed now. Excuse my typo I am a small iPhone and letters isn’t the best to press.
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 13:00:13 GMT -5
completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. That does rely on the assumption that fans feel the same way about Beady Eye songs as they do about Liam solo ones. Which doesn’t appear to be the case true but I just think the fans have grown to love Liam more as a person now. It all changed for him after supersonic Documentary I think. That showed a massive side to Liam cocky funny and genuine. He is for me best front man on the planet. Noel is also best song writer and backing vocalist on planet.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 2, 2022 13:14:11 GMT -5
That does rely on the assumption that fans feel the same way about Beady Eye songs as they do about Liam solo ones. Which doesn’t appear to be the case true but I just think the fans have grown to love Liam more as a person now. It all changed for him after supersonic Documentary I think. That showed a massive side to Liam cocky funny and genuine. He is for me best front man on the planet. Noel is also best song writer and backing vocalist on planet. I don’t believe Noel is those things, not anymore. In the same way Liam wasn’t the best fromtman/Singer between 2005-17, live in any case.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 2, 2022 13:17:47 GMT -5
Can’t wait to get Liam’s Knebworth live album with “Roll It Over”. Summer of Liam!!!
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 13:19:07 GMT -5
true but I just think the fans have grown to love Liam more as a person now. It all changed for him after supersonic Documentary I think. That showed a massive side to Liam cocky funny and genuine. He is for me best front man on the planet. Noel is also best song writer and backing vocalist on planet. I don’t believe Noel is those things, not anymore. In the same way Liam wasn’t the best fromtman/Singer between 2005-17, live in any case. as oasis fan they are for me personally. Obviously other people might take different views on who there’s are.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 2, 2022 13:23:02 GMT -5
Noel would never be able to sell as much as Liam even if he played 25 Oasis songs. Liam manages to create an "atmosphere of greatness" that Noel, despite being an excellent songwriter, would never be able to create. To make great concerts you need to be great frontmen first and then have great songs immediately behind. completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is.
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Post by Oaleed SB on Jun 2, 2022 13:32:31 GMT -5
completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. yea I agreed Noel solo gigs are good aswell though. Every time I seen him I have had a great night. But Liam is the man even my wife said she prefers Liam to Noel gigs and she’s not really into them but has to tag along with me 😂
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Post by megyesitomate on Jun 2, 2022 13:38:23 GMT -5
By the way, how good did EE sound?! I thought it'd be a difficult one for him to perform live but he's nailing it pretty effortlessly.
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Post by Regi on Jun 2, 2022 13:54:26 GMT -5
I wasn't too keen on the recorded version of Everything's Electric, but it sounds immense live. Loved the big "come on" Liam roared after the first chorus. Been a long time since I heard him do that.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 2, 2022 15:01:59 GMT -5
What do you think of Rock n Roll Star after Hello? I would think it works better as a opener, closer or encore closer instead of #2. He sounds great from what I've seen. Only dud for me is Shockwave, awful song. I've never been a massive fan of RNRS as an owner, think it works much better as a closer like in the early/mid 2000 tours. Think Liam sees that and Morning Glory as his war cry and wants to belt them out early on to set the tone. It definitely doesn't work as #2. Having said that, that first gig at the Ritz when he opening with Fuckin in the Bushes, RNRS and Morning Glory when nobody knew what to expect was fucking epic.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 2, 2022 15:18:36 GMT -5
completely wrong. When beady eye Existed Liam played Newport centre and couldn’t sell that out as I was there. And Noel was playing whole arena gigs all over uk and festivals slots. I agree Liam made oasis just as much as Noel did with guitar playing and singing. Liams band will never pull of Noel’s solos in the oasis tunes. That’s why oasis where so good tge both brought there own chemistry to the gigs. What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. Think Beady Eye were doomed to fail from more or less the start for a number of reasons. The public were sick of Liam by then and their PR and marketing was a disaster. They did the complete opposite of Liam's solo career - they had the perfect lead single in Four Letter Word but released the most anti-Oasis song imaginable in Bring the Light and any intrigue Oasis fans had was blown out. Then you had Liam prattling on about how he was sick of playing stadiums and how DGSS was better than Definitely Maybe and the Beatles/Rolling Stones photoshoots and artwork. That's before you get to the music... I don't think there is a massive difference between his solo work and Beady Eye - his solo work is better overall but Beady Eye's best work is up there with it. But I think the combination of Supersonic, Liam going away and coming back in time for the best generation of young fans getting into Oasis and his brilliant PR work in embracing Oasis is the difference. Back to the original point, there's no way he'd sell out Knebworth and stadium gigs without playing the hits and he knows that. I could live without hearing Cigarettes and Alcohol and Supersonic but it pays the bills so to speak. Think with Noel there is a different vibe at his gigs, they are more relaxed and don't attract as many knobheads, but he has a pretty good solo catalogue to choose from himself. He's reached a level where he can sell out arenas and the occasional big gig on his solo work with the odd Oasis hit thrown in to pad it out, whereas Liam is mainly Oasis with the odd solo song (worth pointing out that the last 5 songs on the main set were all solo songs though). Noel will never recreate the big stadium feel though which is what people pay for with Liam and why Liam sells more tickets now.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 2, 2022 15:32:55 GMT -5
What are Beady Eyes all about? they only played 3 Oasis songs, Liam had serious voice problems and was still affected by all the bad things that Noel threw at him. Today's Noel would never sell as much as Liam's concerts even if they performed the exact same set. Besides good songs you have to be a great frontman, compatible for stadium gigs. And when Liam is in top form he is. Think Beady Eye were doomed to fail from more or less the start for a number of reasons. The public were sick of Liam by then and their PR and marketing was a disaster. They did the complete opposite of Liam's solo career - they had the perfect lead single in Four Letter Word but released the most anti-Oasis song imaginable in Bring the Light and any intrigue Oasis fans had was blown out. Then you had Liam prattling on about how he was sick of playing stadiums and how DGSS was better than Definitely Maybe and the Beatles/Rolling Stones photoshoots and artwork. That's before you get to the music... I don't think there is a massive difference between his solo work and Beady Eye - his solo work is better overall but Beady Eye's best work is up there with it. But I think the combination of Supersonic, Liam going away and coming back in time for the best generation of young fans getting into Oasis and his brilliant PR work in embracing Oasis is the difference. Back to the original point, there's no way he'd sell out Knebworth and stadium gigs without playing the hits and he knows that. I could live without hearing Cigarettes and Alcohol and Supersonic but it pays the bills so to speak. Think with Noel there is a different vibe at his gigs, they are more relaxed and don't attract as many knobheads, but he has a pretty good solo catalogue to choose from himself. He's reached a level where he can sell out arenas and the occasional big gig on his solo work with the odd Oasis hit thrown in to pad it out, whereas Liam is mainly Oasis with the odd solo song (worth pointing out that the last 5 songs on the main set were all solo songs though). Noel will never recreate the big stadium feel though which is what people pay for with Liam and why Liam sells more tickets now. I don’t think the public was tired of Liam in 2011. Oasis broke up in august 2009. He hadn’t done much prior. Beady Eye never ever played to their strengths and that was probably by design. Wrong debut song choice. Hiding Liam’s name and identity. Bottom line though is the songs weren’t up to snuff. It always comes down to the music. Solo Liam has done a 180 since 2017 and totally leaned into his God like status and cultural icon. It’s his best version. We ride.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 2, 2022 15:42:38 GMT -5
How has this thread descended into Liam vs. Noel?
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 2, 2022 15:56:22 GMT -5
Think Beady Eye were doomed to fail from more or less the start for a number of reasons. The public were sick of Liam by then and their PR and marketing was a disaster. They did the complete opposite of Liam's solo career - they had the perfect lead single in Four Letter Word but released the most anti-Oasis song imaginable in Bring the Light and any intrigue Oasis fans had was blown out. Then you had Liam prattling on about how he was sick of playing stadiums and how DGSS was better than Definitely Maybe and the Beatles/Rolling Stones photoshoots and artwork. That's before you get to the music... I don't think there is a massive difference between his solo work and Beady Eye - his solo work is better overall but Beady Eye's best work is up there with it. But I think the combination of Supersonic, Liam going away and coming back in time for the best generation of young fans getting into Oasis and his brilliant PR work in embracing Oasis is the difference. Back to the original point, there's no way he'd sell out Knebworth and stadium gigs without playing the hits and he knows that. I could live without hearing Cigarettes and Alcohol and Supersonic but it pays the bills so to speak. Think with Noel there is a different vibe at his gigs, they are more relaxed and don't attract as many knobheads, but he has a pretty good solo catalogue to choose from himself. He's reached a level where he can sell out arenas and the occasional big gig on his solo work with the odd Oasis hit thrown in to pad it out, whereas Liam is mainly Oasis with the odd solo song (worth pointing out that the last 5 songs on the main set were all solo songs though). Noel will never recreate the big stadium feel though which is what people pay for with Liam and why Liam sells more tickets now. I don’t think the public was tired of Liam in 2011. Oasis broke up in august 2009. He hadn’t done much prior. Beady Eye never ever played to their strengths and that was probably by design. Wrong debut song choice. Hiding Liam’s name and identity. Bottom line though is the songs weren’t up to snuff. It always comes down to the music. Solo Liam has done a 180 since 2017 and totally leaned into his God like status and cultural icon. It’s his best version. We ride. I agree, but the public definitely were sick of Liam in 2011. He was a marmite figure and had been widely disliked for years outside of the hardcore Oasis fanbase. It wasn't so much that he hadn't done anything since 2009, it was more that millions of people in the UK thought he was a complete twat and couldn't wait to knock him down. When you say he hadn't done anything since 2009, Oasis broke up in late August 2009, he gave a number of promotional interviews about Pretty Green throughout 2010 then they released Bring the Light in November 2010. He never really went away. Whereas in 2017 he'd been largely off the map since late 2013/early 2014. Then Supersonic came out in 2016 which reigned interest in Oasis from both the young generation of 16-18 year olds who completely missed out on Oasis and the older fans who lived through the early years. It was the perfect storm really as Liam returned soon after - not as the Beady Eye singer who had tried to distance himself from Oasis to prove they weren't just 'Oasis without Noel', but as the Oasis frontman with the songs and the snarl. And Debbie and Warner did a brilliant PR job in showing off his softer side - the video where the kids ask if he got sweeties after a gig did wonders for him. I completely agree with the rest though. He's matured into a cultural icon in his own right rather than 'the knobhead from Oasis!
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