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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 11, 2017 7:05:38 GMT -5
I've listened to it a tonne today and I genuinely feel that had it been on any of the post 2000 Oasis albums we would be talking about a highlight. The vocals sound more new Liam rather than old Liam especially the line at the end of each chorus but they are still silky smooth and powerful I did say this morning that he is going to struggle with this live but then I thought he would with WOG too and apart from a dodgy gig here and there I think the band have let him down more than him missing notes. All in all I am absolutely buzzing and considering a majority of people really like Greedy Soul, Bold etc from the live versions I really think we are onto a winner here. I can see why people don't want to form quick opinions but if you compare the first three tracks we heard from each of the BE albums these songs completely blow them out of the water which is 10x what we all expected earlier this year. Well done LG you've stuck two fingers up in the best way possible. Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew. Sorry if you've already answered this but REALLY? Ok so I like BTL, FLW and SA but seriously, none of them come close. What I have noticed now, since I have heard all 3 of these tracks, whenever I listen to ANY Beady Eye tracks since, they sound so much more dated than I ever realised
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 7:21:17 GMT -5
Really Who Feels Love? and Let There Be Love?
Even if Liam released Morning Glory some of you would slag it off.
Fuckin' in the Bushes Go Let It Out Gas Panic! Where Did It All Go Wrong? The Importance of Being Idle Part of the Queue The Turning The Shock of the Lightning
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Aug 11, 2017 7:23:20 GMT -5
Deleted the cover I did yesterday trying to do it in it's original key, nearly impossible to sing. Dropped the tuning down a full step and sounds a lot better now I think. I'm surprised you found it difficult in the original key, from your other covers you seem to have a pretty decent vocal range and it's not particularly that high. I would have thought the original key would have been around your register. Sounds nice down a step anyway. Edit: If you're still working on developing your voice as you said, i think when you develop it more, you'll realise you can sing higher than you think, even using your chest voice. A lot of it is to do with breathing and knowing how to transition between a chest/head voice but also all the points in-between and that's when you start hitting notes that you thought were a struggle, even without going into falsetto or anything. It's a fact that if you can speak a note, you can also sing it, it's just developing your singing voice to reach them while singing and transitioning from other notes.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 11, 2017 7:29:14 GMT -5
This song is better than ANYTHING on Dig Out Your Soul easily and majority of Don't Believe The Truth. Liam's vocal is better than the whole of DOYS on it's own, let alone the music
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 7:31:17 GMT -5
This song is better than ANYTHING on Dig Out Your Soul easily and majority of Don't Believe The Truth. Liam's vocal is better than the whole of DOYS on it's own, let alone the music Are you high?
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 11, 2017 7:40:23 GMT -5
This song is better than ANYTHING on Dig Out Your Soul easily and majority of Don't Believe The Truth. Liam's vocal is better than the whole of DOYS on it's own, let alone the music Are you high? No, I just know what I like. As far as I'm concerned, nothing on Dig Out Your Soul comes close
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Post by GlastoEls on Aug 11, 2017 7:51:54 GMT -5
Woke up today and still really really like this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 8:12:01 GMT -5
Anyone else annoyed that a lyric video doesn't contain the lyrics in the description?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 11, 2017 8:19:08 GMT -5
This song is better than ANYTHING on Dig Out Your Soul easily and majority of Don't Believe The Truth. Liam's vocal is better than the whole of DOYS on it's own, let alone the music The Turning, The Shock of The Lightning and Falling Down are easily better than For What It's Worth.
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Post by Rolo on Aug 11, 2017 8:21:37 GMT -5
Deleted the cover I did yesterday trying to do it in it's original key, nearly impossible to sing. Dropped the tuning down a full step and sounds a lot better now I think. I'm surprised you found it difficult in the original key, from your other covers you seem to have a pretty decent vocal range and it's not particularly that high. I would have thought the original key would have been around your register. Sounds nice down a step anyway. Edit: If you're still working on developing your voice as you said, i think when you develop it more, you'll realise you can sing higher than you think, even using your chest voice. A lot of it is to do with breathing and knowing how to transition between a chest/head voice but also all the points in-between and that's when you start hitting notes that you thought were a struggle, even without going into falsetto or anything. It's a fact that if you can speak a note, you can also sing it, it's just developing your singing voice to reach them while singing and transitioning from other notes. It's the chorus, I can do the verses pretty easily but couldn't hit the notes in the chorus, the whole thing sounded a bit strained to be honest so was better just dropping it down a step. Nice one for that, I think it would benefit me having singing lessons as I have no clue on breathing techniques to be honest and have read it really does help!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 11, 2017 8:23:12 GMT -5
Is that true though? DGSS has Bring The Light, Four Letter Word and The Roller. BE had Flick of The Finger, The Second Bite of The Apple and Start Anew. Sorry if you've already answered this but REALLY? Ok so I like BTL, FLW and SA but seriously, none of them come close. What I have noticed now, since I have heard all 3 of these tracks, whenever I listen to ANY Beady Eye tracks since, they sound so much more dated than I ever realised Yes really. You act like something incredibly different has happened this go around. Same it was the last two times. One really good song. One ok song. One below average song. People were absolutely buzzing on this forum when Four Letter Word dropped. Same for Flick of The Finger. We shouldn't trivialize these events because they happened 5-6 years ago. DGSS sounds dated. A lot of BE does not. The most universal liked solo Liam song is Wall of Glass. Not For What's It's Worth I've noticed.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 11, 2017 8:24:31 GMT -5
If those strings were more prominent, this could almost be a song straight from Bee Gee's First, at least instrumentally.
Could totally see Robin singing on this.
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Post by matt on Aug 11, 2017 8:30:06 GMT -5
This song is better than ANYTHING on Dig Out Your Soul easily and majority of Don't Believe The Truth. Liam's vocal is better than the whole of DOYS on it's own, let alone the music The Turning, The Shock of The Lightning and Falling Down are easily better than For What It's Worth. You see, all those three DOYS songs have that unique Oasis characteristic. There's real punch and vibe going on in them, with added melancholy in Falling Down. They undoubtedly wear their influences on their sleeves, but it contains the swagger of Oasis that makes it authentic. For What It's Worth doesn't hold a candle to these. In comparison, its maudlin, syrupy and extremely derivative. Not a great song by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 11, 2017 8:40:55 GMT -5
Sorry if you've already answered this but REALLY? Ok so I like BTL, FLW and SA but seriously, none of them come close. What I have noticed now, since I have heard all 3 of these tracks, whenever I listen to ANY Beady Eye tracks since, they sound so much more dated than I ever realised Yes really. You act like something incredibly different has happened this go around. Same it was the last two times. One really good song. One ok song. One below average song. People were absolutely buzzing on this forum when Four Letter Word dropped. Same for Flick of The Finger. We shouldn't trivialize these events because they happened 5-6 years ago. DGSS sounds dated. A lot of BE does not. The most universal liked solo Liam song is Wall of Glass. Not For What's It's Worth I've noticed. I've never liked or understood the like for FOTF, it's so boring to me. However, I am digressing here, I seriously do think it's better than anything off them two albums AND it's now also showing both of them up as quite dated in my eyes. That's just me though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 8:49:34 GMT -5
Yes really. You act like something incredibly different has happened this go around. Same it was the last two times. One really good song. One ok song. One below average song. People were absolutely buzzing on this forum when Four Letter Word dropped. Same for Flick of The Finger. We shouldn't trivialize these events because they happened 5-6 years ago. DGSS sounds dated. A lot of BE does not. The most universal liked solo Liam song is Wall of Glass. Not For What's It's Worth I've noticed. I've never liked or understood the like for FOTF, it's so boring to me. However, I am digressing here, I seriously do think it's better than anything off them two albums AND it's now also showing both of them up as quite dated in my eyes. That's just me though Really? For What It's Worth could easily be dropped into a post-Beatles Lennon record and fit nicely. I guess dated means different things to different people. (this is not saying FWIW is a bad song, I actually like it. don't get the dated comment though.)
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 11, 2017 8:58:08 GMT -5
Yes really. You act like something incredibly different has happened this go around. Same it was the last two times. One really good song. One ok song. One below average song. People were absolutely buzzing on this forum when Four Letter Word dropped. Same for Flick of The Finger. We shouldn't trivialize these events because they happened 5-6 years ago. DGSS sounds dated. A lot of BE does not. The most universal liked solo Liam song is Wall of Glass. Not For What's It's Worth I've noticed. I've never liked or understood the like for FOTF, it's so boring to me. However, I am digressing here, I seriously do think it's better than anything off them two albums AND it's now also showing both of them up as quite dated in my eyes. That's just me though And while I'm thinking about it, Turn Up The Sun, Lyla and The Importance of Being Idle are all better than For What Its Worth. Don't let excitement over new material blind your senses.
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Post by Plantpot on Aug 11, 2017 9:02:09 GMT -5
I've never liked or understood the like for FOTF, it's so boring to me. However, I am digressing here, I seriously do think it's better than anything off them two albums AND it's now also showing both of them up as quite dated in my eyes. That's just me though And while I'm thinking about it, Turn Up The Sun, Lyla and The Importance of Being Idle are all better than For What Its Worth. Don't let excitement over material blind your senses. While I do enjoy "For What it's Worth," I would add "Bag it Up" to that list as well.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 11, 2017 9:03:20 GMT -5
Anyway it'll be interesting to see how it sounds live on that TV show in America. If he managed to nail the vocal in front of an audience that big, it could be monumental for him. In 1965 yes. Not so much in 2017. Late night talk show don't command the same power and influence like they once did. Too many channels. Too many options. This isn't the 80s when you had 20 channels and half of them went dark or paid programming by midnight.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 11, 2017 9:16:36 GMT -5
The Turning, The Shock of The Lightning and Falling Down are easily better than For What It's Worth. You see, all those three DOYS songs have that unique Oasis characteristic. There's real punch and vibe going on in them, with added melancholy in Falling Down. They undoubtedly wear their influences on their sleeves, but it contains the swagger of Oasis that makes it authentic. For What It's Worth doesn't hold a candle to these. In comparison, its maudlin, syrupy and extremely derivative. Not a great song by any stretch of the imagination. Not for me, Falling Down feels like it's a typical Noel song, alright on the odd listen but so boring and dour. The Turning is ok but that's all it is. People say the singles off HC are often elavated because of the album it's on, I think that about The Turning. It's such an average tune by Oasis standards but everyone always states it's an Oasis classic and I just don't understand the love for it. Shock Of The Lightning is ok but it's very Oasis by numbers, much like Lyla and The Hindu Times, both of which are better.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 11, 2017 9:26:45 GMT -5
I've never liked or understood the like for FOTF, it's so boring to me. However, I am digressing here, I seriously do think it's better than anything off them two albums AND it's now also showing both of them up as quite dated in my eyes. That's just me though Really? For What It's Worth could easily be dropped into a post-Beatles Lennon record and fit nicely. I guess dated means different things to different people. (this is not saying FWIW is a bad song, I actually like it. don't get the dated comment though.)As in how it's produced or something. I'm not technical but it's just how it sounds to my ears
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Aug 11, 2017 9:35:42 GMT -5
The lyrics in this are really nice - I see it being a song for non-Oasis fans to be drawn to, particularly the ladies. It isn't a GREAT song and I think a lot of people are kidding themselves when they say it's a GREAT/AMAZING song or whatever. It's a good song but in my opinion it's an album track and not a single. Just my opinion.
A lot of people are too easily drawn into the whole black and white debate. I.e., it's either SHIT or THE BEST SONG POST-OASIS. It is a good song, simple as that.
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Post by ninestonecowboy on Aug 11, 2017 10:13:58 GMT -5
I'm surprised you found it difficult in the original key, from your other covers you seem to have a pretty decent vocal range and it's not particularly that high. I would have thought the original key would have been around your register. Sounds nice down a step anyway. Edit: If you're still working on developing your voice as you said, i think when you develop it more, you'll realise you can sing higher than you think, even using your chest voice. A lot of it is to do with breathing and knowing how to transition between a chest/head voice but also all the points in-between and that's when you start hitting notes that you thought were a struggle, even without going into falsetto or anything. It's a fact that if you can speak a note, you can also sing it, it's just developing your singing voice to reach them while singing and transitioning from other notes. It's the chorus, I can do the verses pretty easily but couldn't hit the notes in the chorus, the whole thing sounded a bit strained to be honest so was better just dropping it down a step. Nice one for that, I think it would benefit me having singing lessons as I have no clue on breathing techniques to be honest and have read it really does help! It does help, even just doing vocal exercises, you can probably find loads on youtube. I know it's not that rock n roll haha but the voice is still using muscles that need to be exercised and used properly like anything else if you want to get the best out of it, no different to training other muscles for sport or whatever really. I do reckon to a point we're born with a certain vocal range that differs from person to person but you can definitely broaden it a bit with the right practice. I never really wanted to do vocal exercise or learn technique because i didn't think it was "cool" or whatever but i was having persistent issues with my throat from medical reasons and found that it helped massively when i did exercises, and over time i was singing things with ease that used to be a strain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2017 10:31:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised you found it difficult in the original key, from your other covers you seem to have a pretty decent vocal range and it's not particularly that high. I would have thought the original key would have been around your register. Sounds nice down a step anyway. Edit: If you're still working on developing your voice as you said, i think when you develop it more, you'll realise you can sing higher than you think, even using your chest voice. A lot of it is to do with breathing and knowing how to transition between a chest/head voice but also all the points in-between and that's when you start hitting notes that you thought were a struggle, even without going into falsetto or anything. It's a fact that if you can speak a note, you can also sing it, it's just developing your singing voice to reach them while singing and transitioning from other notes. It's the chorus, I can do the verses pretty easily but couldn't hit the notes in the chorus, the whole thing sounded a bit strained to be honest so was better just dropping it down a step. Nice one for that, I think it would benefit me having singing lessons as I have no clue on breathing techniques to be honest and have read it really does help! Hey Rolo, if you can find a teacher who teaches this technique, you'll be good to go: www.vocaladvancement.com/the-iva-technique/
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Post by mouth on Aug 11, 2017 10:38:09 GMT -5
This song is better than ANYTHING on Dig Out Your Soul easily and majority of Don't Believe The Truth. Liam's vocal is better than the whole of DOYS on it's own, let alone the music
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Post by mouth on Aug 11, 2017 10:42:56 GMT -5
honestly, the chorus is close to being cringeworthy.
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