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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 8:12:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry but thats a shit excuse. Why then is Noel putting out b-sides on HFB singles? Lots of artists still give fans new songs as b-sides to this day. I'm not using it as an excuse - I'm just citing it as fact that B-sides were more 'relevant' in the CD/vinyl era than the digital age - when one track or song can be downloaded instantly. It's not too much of a stretch to think that some of Noel's solo future songs may have been B-sides had they still relied purely on CD sales to shift singles... I think you got your date wrong mate. B-sides lost relevance long before 2005. In 98 or 99 music singles were redefined and could no longer carry as many extra tracks and still be eligible for charting. Oasis, and everyone else, could no longer release singles with 4 new tracks and still get chart position. By 2005, b-sides were all but a lost cause. Artist now release b-sides as a way of trimming the fat off their reserve tracks and most are unfinished or poorly recorded. In the past b-sides were often fully realized tracks because they carried more weight. Now they are simply throw aways. |
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Post by shoes222 on Sept 26, 2016 15:01:38 GMT -5
Glad to know I'm not the only one that cringes whenever I listen to it. The John Lennon quote especially...I always hate it when Liam tried to do his nasally John Lennon impersonation, which he did increasingly in the later years on his own songs and in BDI. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 16:09:42 GMT -5
Bring the Light is better than most of Oasis songs between 2000-2009.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 16:25:22 GMT -5
^ Great Rock & Roll tune
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Post by carlober on Sept 26, 2016 16:38:55 GMT -5
Bring the Light is better than most of Oasis songs between 2000-2009. I totally hated it after the first listen but I'll admit it has grown on me a little bit, especially after hearing the BE tour live version. Still, not a great song and probably not even a good one. In my opinion BTL is better than: (Probably) All in the Mind Ain't Got Muffins Better Man Hung In a Bad Place Little James Love Like a Bomb Thank You For the Good Times The Meaning of Soul The Nature of Reality The Quiet Ones Won't Let You Down but anything else from the '00-'09 era is superior. So no, it's not better than most Oasis songs from that period... and yes, this makes your post an unpopular opinion, I guess  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 26, 2016 18:31:40 GMT -5
I think The Fame is the tits.
I wish Noel was more about that Be Here Now era.
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Post by Aman on Sept 27, 2016 3:10:15 GMT -5
I think The Fame is the tits. I wish Noel was more about that Be Here Now era. The tune is strangely underrated on here. Not sure what's not to like about it. |
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Post by wozdareden on Sept 27, 2016 3:48:00 GMT -5
Noel's vocals...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 27, 2016 19:46:06 GMT -5
Don't Believe The Truth - despite not aging well - is still a good record, and was a very important album for Oasis' mid-00's revival.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 27, 2016 19:50:51 GMT -5
Don't Believe The Truth - despite not aging well - is still a good record, and was a very important album for Oasis' mid-00's revival. Is that an unpopular opinion? I'm gonna go the opposite direction and say that only Noel's songs on DBTT are any good. LAG's contributions (minus Turn Up the Sun, maybe) are worse than on HC which at least had Songbird and BOADC. I'm happy the album did good things for the band, but there's a huge quality gap between the third worst Oasis album and DBTT/HC. Agreed on The Fame - the BHN b-sides in general are just as good as those from the first two albums. Going Nowhere, Stay Young, The Fever, Flashbax, The Fame, Angel Child... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 20:01:39 GMT -5
Don't Believe The Truth - despite not aging well - is still a good record, and was a very important album for Oasis' mid-00's revival. Is that an unpopular opinion? I'm gonna go the opposite direction and say that only Noel's songs on DBTT are any good. LAG's contributions (minus Turn Up the Sun, maybe) are worse than on HC which at least had Songbird and BOADC.
I'm happy the album did good things for the band, but there's a huge quality gap between the third worst Oasis album and DBTT/HC. Agreed on The Fame - the BHN b-sides in general are just as good as those from the first two albums. Going Nowhere, Stay Young, The Fever, Flashbax, The Fame, Angel Child... Mucky Fingers? Let There Be Love? and what about Guess God Thinks I'm Abel? I really hate Stay Young. Definitely my least favourite Oasis 90's track. |
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Post by AppleScruff on Sept 28, 2016 1:12:51 GMT -5
I'm not using it as an excuse - I'm just citing it as fact that B-sides were more 'relevant' in the CD/vinyl era than the digital age - when one track or song can be downloaded instantly. It's not too much of a stretch to think that some of Noel's solo future songs may have been B-sides had they still relied purely on CD sales to shift singles... I think you got your date wrong mate. B-sides lost relevance long before 2005. In 98 or 99 music singles were redefined and could no longer carry as many extra tracks and still be eligible for charting. Oasis, and everyone else, could no longer release singles with 4 new tracks and still get chart position. By 2005, b-sides were all but a lost cause. Artist now release b-sides as a way of trimming the fat off their reserve tracks and most are unfinished or poorly recorded. In the past b-sides were often fully realized tracks because they carried more weight. Now they are simply throw aways. Regarding B sides, you're correct for most bands. But the best bands in the last decade have still had top class b-sides, Arctic Monkeys for example and more recently Blossoms, who seem to have been inspired by Oasis to just get your best tracks out there asap rather than hold back for an album |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 28, 2016 5:20:58 GMT -5
Is that an unpopular opinion? I'm gonna go the opposite direction and say that only Noel's songs on DBTT are any good. LAG's contributions (minus Turn Up the Sun, maybe) are worse than on HC which at least had Songbird and BOADC.
I'm happy the album did good things for the band, but there's a huge quality gap between the third worst Oasis album and DBTT/HC. Agreed on The Fame - the BHN b-sides in general are just as good as those from the first two albums. Going Nowhere, Stay Young, The Fever, Flashbax, The Fame, Angel Child... Mucky Fingers? Let There Be Love? and what about Guess God Thinks I'm Abel? I really like Mucky Fingers - there's an unpopular opinion for you  GGTIA, meh, never really got into that one. It's like a decent post-2000 b-side. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 28, 2016 5:23:31 GMT -5
Mucky Fingers? Let There Be Love? and what about Guess God Thinks I'm Abel? I really like Mucky Fingers - there's an unpopular opinion for you GGTIA, meh, never really got into that one. It's like a decent post-2000 b-side. Both tracks are great in my opinion. I'm a sucker for DBTT, my favourite album post BHN. |
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Post by braddersthemod on Oct 16, 2016 12:09:01 GMT -5
The mustique demos were'nt worth the wait.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 16, 2016 12:47:10 GMT -5
The mustique demos were'nt worth the wait. That is why Noel is a brilliant business man. He built it up into the Holy Grail status for the last 19 years. That's always what will happen with the AA sessions but on a much smaller scale. Easy pay days for Noel in the future. |
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Post by beentherenow on Oct 16, 2016 13:22:32 GMT -5
I don't know what part of the Mustique demos are a disappointment,
We knew they were all Noel sung, we knew all the songs (apart from the mystical 15th track) so they're exactly as expected for me. They give an excellent insight into how Noel writes and also how Oasis are just Liam and Noel. The songs on these demos are fully finished songs they just need Liam to make them better. The other members did nothing really. I know we all knew this but it's there for all to hear now
The Trip Inside fiasco is disappointing but apart from that this reissue pisses all over DM and MH imo
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 16, 2016 17:33:58 GMT -5
The mustique demos were'nt worth the wait. It's easy to say that now that we have them. But they are demos, what you expected? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 20:00:04 GMT -5
To me, they were so much worth the wait...  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 8:01:57 GMT -5
The mustique demos were'nt worth the wait. This statement in a vacuum maybe true, but without more explanation as to why you feel this way it's hard to take this generic statement as some sort of declarative fact. Please... enlighten us. |
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Post by matt on Oct 17, 2016 10:16:38 GMT -5
Mustique demos are fine, but they don't top the final versions in any way (I never thought they would as that chaos is part of what makes Be Here Now appealing). I think a large proportion of the instrumentals behind Noel's vocals are quite dull and not nearly as interesting as the reverb oriented crashing guitars of the actual album.
Though there are bits and pieces here and there that are really intriguing, most notably D'You Know What I Mean's ethereal guitars that makes you wonder what other alternative versions you could make of it.
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Post by braddersthemod on Oct 17, 2016 11:19:11 GMT -5
The mustique demos were'nt worth the wait. This statement in a vacuum maybe true, but without more explanation as to why you feel this way it's hard to take this generic statement as some sort of declarative fact. Please... enlighten us. Its not that they are bad, just not all that interesting really. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 21, 2016 16:37:12 GMT -5
Self explanatory. Can only list one opinion. Go.
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Post by eva on Dec 21, 2016 16:48:30 GMT -5
Self explanatory. Can only list one opinion. Go. merged your thread to this one. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 18:11:22 GMT -5
The Masterplan (the song) is shit. I'm a Schrödinger level of offended by this for some reason. |
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