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Post by jaq515 on Feb 28, 2014 5:28:16 GMT -5
This might not be true but with liam seemingly to be going bit mental lately this makes sence. www.contactmusic.com/story/liam-gallagher-fires-music-manager_4088962?Liam Gallagher has fired Beady Eye's music manager Scott Rodger, who has been credited with turning around the band's fortunes. Liam Gallagher has fired Beady Eye's music manager. The band's frontman drafted in music impresario Scott Rodger - who also manages Sir Paul McCartney and Arcade Fire - to boost their profile following lukewarm reviews of their first album 'Different Gear, Still Speeding', but it appears the pair have now parted ways. A source told The Sun newspaper: ''It's a shock that Liam has left Scott. He has a lot of influence. Beady Eye hired him to rejuvenate their career after their first album didn't do as well as hoped. ''Scott put in a lot of hard work on the second album and persuaded Liam to play Oasis songs live again.'' It's thought Liam's girlfriend Debbie Gwyther will fill the role as Beady Eye's temporary manager while they look for a replacement for Scott. The band recently axed their performance at America's Coachella Festival in April and appear in to be limbo following a difficult year in 2013, which drummer Chris Sharrock described as Beady Eye's ''annus horriblis''. Liam, 41, split from his wife Nicole Appleton after it emerged he had fathered a secret love child with US journalist Liza Ghorbani. Meanwhile, guitarist Gem Archer endured arduous medical setbacks including a fractured skull and broken leg.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 28, 2014 7:04:38 GMT -5
Didn't know they'd pulled the plug on Coachella, but can totally understand why they got rid of the manager - the whole BE campaign has been a complete joke.
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 28, 2014 7:33:49 GMT -5
Turning around their fortunes my arse! Shame it's taken this long really.
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 28, 2014 7:39:05 GMT -5
I 100% agree the mgt has been useless but I don't think putting his bint in charge gonna make things better. Sure the rest aren't to happy with this.
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Post by bardes on Feb 28, 2014 8:30:31 GMT -5
Right decision.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2014 8:35:26 GMT -5
Wasn't it Scott Rodgers idea and pushing that paired Beady Eye with Dave Sitek? It was the best move by the band in their career.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Feb 28, 2014 8:50:52 GMT -5
i recently read an article dissing Arcade Fire for being over marketed and promoted...same management as BDi.
Weird.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2014 8:51:59 GMT -5
Wasn't it Scott Rodgers idea and pushing that paired Beady Eye with Dave Sitek? It was the best move by the band in their career. I would agree that bringing in Sitek was a shrewd and productive move, but "turning around the band's fortunes" is almost the complete opposite of what has actually happened under his tenure. Not saying it is all Scott Rodgers' fault, but come on... The fact is, the band is now on the brink after a reasonably successful first album... I don't think the band ever viewed DGSS as successful since Liam was real quick to trash Steve Lillywhite. I'm sure Rodgers doesn't care. He works for Arcade Fire. Times are good.
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Post by losingmyhead on Feb 28, 2014 8:59:20 GMT -5
I would agree that bringing in Sitek was a shrewd and productive move, but "turning around the band's fortunes" is almost the complete opposite of what has actually happened under his tenure. Not saying it is all Scott Rodgers' fault, but come on... The fact is, the band is now on the brink after a reasonably successful first album... I don't think the band ever viewed DGSS as successful since Liam was real quick to trash Steve Lillywhite. I'm sure Rodgers doesn't care. He works for Arcade Fire. Times are good. I'm sure Liam has a better perspective now. In retrospect, DGSS' sales were more than respectable. If they could have maintained that level, they would be one of 5 or so biggest bands in the UK. DGSS is pretty much "Thriller" when compared to BE.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 28, 2014 9:05:38 GMT -5
I don't think the band ever viewed DGSS as successful since Liam was real quick to trash Steve Lillywhite. I'm sure Rodgers doesn't care. He works for Arcade Fire. Times are good. I'm sure Liam has a better perspective now. In retrospect, DGSS' sales were more than respectable. If they could have maintained that level, they would be one of 5 or so biggest bands in the UK. DGSS is pretty much "Thriller" when compared to BE. BE's a better album though.
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Post by losingmyhead on Feb 28, 2014 9:11:02 GMT -5
I'm sure Liam has a better perspective now. In retrospect, DGSS' sales were more than respectable. If they could have maintained that level, they would be one of 5 or so biggest bands in the UK. DGSS is pretty much "Thriller" when compared to BE. BE's a better album though. No doubt.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 28, 2014 9:24:37 GMT -5
Their management was hit or miss, something that a band like Beady Eye, or any other band, can't afford.
While Scott Rodgers got them Coachella, X-Factor, Dave Sitek, probably persuaded them to do live signings, and had a very crafting idea for the FOTF release (which in the end blew up on them).
There have been two cancelled gigs with barely any explanation, there was an extremely late release of BE in the US (like I just got the album two months ago late), no US live dates (except for Coachella), and lately a stop and go tour schedule...to not have any clue what the'll be doing for the next few months. Seriously?
Somethings weren't on management, obviously Liam brought the lawsuit on himself and no bit of management would have saved him. Gem fracturing his skull couldn't be helped by anyone. FOTF release was only partly on management. In the end, that was partly also bad luck. The album sales couldn't be helped either. I think most people knew, maybe not Liam, that the album sales were going to take a tumble. Could the album sales have been saved...maybe. We'll never know. We do know that they were fighting against a bad headwind and were lucky enough to get to #2 (when any other week they might have barely scratched the Top 5 with the same sales). But that would have been okay if the management had viewed that as the casual Oasis fans leaving, giving them an opportunity to build an audience. Building an audience for future album sales was what I thought the goal of the new management would be. That was the reasoning behind X-Factor and Sitek. Granted, every management wants to make a quick profit, but I viewed them as being in for the long haul, so 2-3 albums. They would work hard now to build an audience and it would pay-off an album from now.
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Post by peardrop on Feb 28, 2014 9:41:09 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what he's supposed to have done wrong? Beady Eye's profile at the moment is no bigger or smaller than it ought to be.
This just strikes me as Liam forcing an opportunity to give his girlfriend a promotion if it's true.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 28, 2014 9:41:07 GMT -5
In years to come, Q magazine will feature the BE campaign in an eight-page feature most probably entitled 'The Most Disastrous Album Campaigns Ever!'
Sub-headings to include:
Singer fathers love-child and gets divorced!
Guitarist fractures his skull!
They don't even release their best song as a single!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2014 9:50:27 GMT -5
I volunteer my services to run the band.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 9:53:30 GMT -5
If true ...I think a great buisness move ( for once by Liam ). If I had his ear , I would say look here are your choices. ,,the band has not taken off like you anticipated , either bust it up. And let's reform. New band , new name ,or go solo ( both after a 3 year break ) reinvent yourself it works .......OR take your time and write tne best 8-12 songs possible , don't set a time limit , promote it to the hilt , make mainstream videos , do the talk circuit ,,,,and if that don't work , you gave it your all. It's going nowhere after 3 attempts ,,to me that's the alternatives , not this make a lp think it will fly we were in oasis we are legends stuff. Not enough people care
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 9:54:22 GMT -5
I volunteer my services to run the band. Seriously seconded ! I know you are a buisness guy , I guarantee you could do better!
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Post by peardrop on Feb 28, 2014 9:58:31 GMT -5
The songs aren't brilliant and neither is Liam's voice. Not that difficult.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 28, 2014 10:28:42 GMT -5
Good decision. Whoever picked the singles needed to be sacked.
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Post by ruchin on Feb 28, 2014 10:38:39 GMT -5
Interesting, thought it was weird how they were doing no promo whilst in europe.
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Post by allingoodtime on Feb 28, 2014 10:53:25 GMT -5
About time!
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Post by peardrop on Feb 28, 2014 11:06:21 GMT -5
Good decision. Whoever picked the singles needed to be sacked. Do you really think the band don't choose the singles? What songs would you have picked? I think they got right.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 28, 2014 11:11:43 GMT -5
Good decision. Whoever picked the singles needed to be sacked. Do you really think the band don't choose the singles? What songs would you have picked? I think they got right. I'm Just Saying needed to be the first official single. That song had the best chance of having any mainstream success.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 11:20:44 GMT -5
Do you really think the band don't choose the singles? What songs would you have picked? I think they got right. I'm Just Saying needed to be the first official single. That song had the best chance of having any mainstream success. When underneaththesky sent me the link to the leak. That's first song I liked !!! And I'm harsh on them and Noel solo
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 28, 2014 11:39:05 GMT -5
Do you really think the band don't choose the singles? What songs would you have picked? I think they got right. I'm Just Saying needed to be the first official single. That song had the best chance of having any mainstream success. Not a bad shout. The thing is, I think they wanted to show that they had moved on from the Oasis sound so they picked tracks accordingly. But I do think that tracks like I'm Just Saying, Iz Rite and Soon Come Tomorrow could have got some decent airplay.
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