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Post by stevemeister on Feb 28, 2014 11:39:22 GMT -5
Do you really think the band don't choose the singles? What songs would you have picked? I think they got right. I'm Just Saying needed to be the first official single. That song had the best chance of having any mainstream success. The tune is decent but the 1,2,3 I'm just saying 7,8,9 part is god awful. This isn't Jackson 5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 11:43:17 GMT -5
I'm Just Saying needed to be the first official single. That song had the best chance of having any mainstream success. The tune is decent but the 1,2,3 I'm just saying 7,8,9 part is god awful. This isn't Jackson 5 Your right .but the point is the Jackson 5 ( who I hate I'm not into Jackson anything just don't like there music nothing against jacko think he's way overrated ) point is thts tune not being oasis IS WHY IT SHIULDA BEEN PUT OUT !! Attract the non fan GROW YOUR AUDIENCE
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Post by fink621 on Feb 28, 2014 11:48:17 GMT -5
Can I just point out that this story is from The Sun newspaper yeah?
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Post by StepOut on Feb 28, 2014 11:51:55 GMT -5
A fitting end to a horrible year for Beady Eye in my opinion. I don't see them touring anymore, how can they without a manager? Unless they go back with Ignition and hit North America this year. If anything, I think Liam should try to bury the hatchet with Noel. But honestly, I don't think Noel is up for a reunion, he doesn't need to do it. The other guys need it, not him. Overall, Beady Eye have written some good tunes, but their overall body of work has been mediocre at best. I agree with Kalas, outside an Oasis reunion, they need to retire for a few years and write 10-12 tunes and make a comeback.
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Post by losingmyhead on Feb 28, 2014 11:52:26 GMT -5
This idea that I'm Just Saying would have broken BE is ludicrous. I mean, I like the song, but it would have disappeared into the ether just like Shine A light and SBOTA. How anyone can listen to that song and think "AIRPLAY!" is beyond the comprehension of my small and feeble mind.
Beady Eye did release a big, bold single that was a worthy attempt to gain new fans. It was called Flick of the Finger. Almost every non Beady Eye person I've played the album to has reacted positively to it. But, what do you know, it died as well.
It's just hard being a rock band nowadays. Especially an old rock band that people view as washed up.
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Post by StepOut on Feb 28, 2014 11:52:39 GMT -5
I'm Just Saying needed to be the first official single. That song had the best chance of having any mainstream success. The tune is decent but the 1,2,3 I'm just saying 7,8,9 part is god awful. This isn't Jackson 5 Hahaha, my favorite tune on the album.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 11:55:55 GMT -5
I agree with Kalas, outside an Oasis reunion, they need to retire for a few years and write 10-12 tunes and make a comeback. I think that's first time in years I read that cheers .seriously thx
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Post by stevemeister on Feb 28, 2014 11:57:25 GMT -5
BDI needs and I mean needs to pair up with Pharrel, Will.I.am, Bruno Mars or some other crazy motherfucking artist to get the ball rolling.....Taylor Swift duet with Liam?? hahahahha
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 28, 2014 12:07:27 GMT -5
This idea that I'm Just Saying would have broken BE is ludicrous. I mean, I like the song, but it would have disappeared into the ether just like Shine A light and SBOTA. How anyone can listen to that song and think "AIRPLAY!" is beyond the comprehension of my small and feeble mind. Beady Eye did release a big, bold single that was a worthy attempt to gain new fans. It was called Flick of the Finger. Almost every non Beady Eye person I've played the album to has reacted positively to it. But, what do you know, it died as well. It's just hard being a rock band nowadays. Especially an old rock band that people view as washed up. Shina A Light wasn't a bad single in retrospect. It's catchy, has a great video and it is a really fun tune live. I'm Just Saying is a good song until that jackson 5 bit and would have done good as a single. But it wouldn't have mattered because the promotion for the singles was practically non existent. SBOTA was a horrible mistake. I don't think it should have even been on the album, let alone bumped to the first single position. Flick Of The Finger was not an official single. It should have been, but it was a move just like Bring The Light was for DGSS. It was a promotional single and it ended disastrously because of the leak.
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 28, 2014 12:11:48 GMT -5
Taylor Swift duet with Liam?? hahahahha Lennon 2217 like this.
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Post by Emil (AKA... The Mexican!) on Feb 28, 2014 12:45:42 GMT -5
Awful management. Singles should have been: Flick Of The Finger, Soon Come Tomorrow , Iz Rite, Start Anew, Soul Love (in that order; yeah 5 singles ) Even Off At The Next Exit. SBOTA and SAL were awful as singles.
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Post by fink621 on Feb 28, 2014 12:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 14:27:43 GMT -5
Far too late
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Post by manic on Feb 28, 2014 15:51:17 GMT -5
I 100% agree the mgt has been useless but I don't think putting his bint in charge gonna make things better. Sure the rest aren't to happy with this. You never know, they might be fine with it tbf, if it's only temporary, however if she convinces them to release Start Anew as a single then give her the job permanently.
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Post by manic on Feb 28, 2014 16:11:21 GMT -5
If it was me I would have released Flick Of The Finger as the first single, show the new direction off n' all that. Jools Holland just have them play what they played. Then for the live performance on The Voice play Start Anew (not the acoustic version, the way they do it live) and do the mini tour thing the way they did. Soon Come Tomorrow as the next single going into the proper tour, and I would have had them on Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton etc. just playing live mind you, avoid any line of questioning that Liam wouldn't enjoy. Then they can do all the generic festivals as they did, although I would have had Glastonbury filmed. Off At The Next Exit would have been forced onto the album and made a single as well. That would maybe have worked better for them but who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 16:18:48 GMT -5
"We've just about reached the end of the 'BE' album cycle"
Does this mean the tour's nearly over too?
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 28, 2014 16:23:51 GMT -5
I 100% agree the mgt has been useless but I don't think putting his bint in charge gonna make things better. Sure the rest aren't to happy with this. You never know, they might be fine with it tbf, if it's only temporary, however if she convinces them to release Start Anew as a single then give her the job permanently. I doubt it. I would guess she's burnt many bridges in the industry after sleeping with her client (and getting sacked) Bdi had very little exposure so can't really see what she's gonna be able to do now I would also say she's burnt many bridges with the band as she split Liam marriage up where as previously Liam, andy, gem and wife's were very close. Liam needs a strong manager to keep him on the straight and narrow and your bird isn't that person. If you've ever had the misfortune to have worked with your partner it doesn't work and now all the rest bands BDI career resting on that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2014 16:28:04 GMT -5
A Liam solo album and tour would be amazing, I can see it now...
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Post by spaneli on Feb 28, 2014 16:28:43 GMT -5
"We've just about reached the end of the 'BE' album cycle" Does this mean the tour's nearly over too? I would think so. It would be highly disappointing if that were the case, especially for North and South American fans.
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Post by jimbeammeup on Feb 28, 2014 16:59:50 GMT -5
This was in a different thread: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/78172/andy-bell-interview-radio-live?page=1#scrollTo=1099377Andy Bell spoke to BBC Radio 5 Live just before the first Manchester date last month. It was broadcast last night here (skip to 3:11:45): www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03kq2m8There's an extended version of the interview (another 9 minutes) on soundcloud here: tinyurl.com/AndyBellextraSome good insight on how they see the album now, his history with Oasis before he joined the band, and what guitar pedal he used on BE! Wow nice find. I love a good Andy or Gem interview without Liam in there. Surprising that the band didn't pick any of the singles outside of "Flick of The Finger". So management picked the singles off BE and not the band. Sounds like sacking the management may well be a step in the right direction EDIT: 8:30 in the Soundcloud extended interview Andy says the band only picked FOTF as a single
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 28, 2014 17:05:46 GMT -5
I think if anyone believes 'the band' choose things like singles they are very naive
Am sure even on the DBTT EPK noel says lyla was added very last minute as the record company wanted it on there (or he say that in some interview)
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Post by GIMH on Feb 28, 2014 17:14:03 GMT -5
Sacking confirmed by Liam on twitter
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Post by yearzero on Feb 28, 2014 23:49:52 GMT -5
Promotion of BE was definitely shoddy. If they wanted to distinguish themselves from Oasis, they needed a strong marketing team, good singles, consistent radioplay, appearances on different TV shows and media outlets. In my opinion, the bonus tracks Back after the Break, World's Not Set in Stone, and Off at the Next Exit should all have been on the album. That's just me though And FOTF should definitely have been the leading single. Maybe this change in management is a good thing. "Start anew" and all that. They need a good long break and some serious discussion about what to do next, instead of trying to just force out another album or making rushed decisions.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Mar 2, 2014 7:08:24 GMT -5
The band recently axed their performance at America's Coachella Festival in April and appear in to be limbo following a difficult year in 2013, which drummer Chris Sharrock described as Beady Eye's ''annus horriblis''. CHRIS SHARROCK IS THE RIDDLER
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Post by vespa on Mar 2, 2014 9:19:20 GMT -5
Flick of the finger was a perfect first single...no matter what they release unless they put money into it they wont get anywhere..promotion is all money,whether it be radio play,tv appearances its all budgeting and beady eye and oasis in the end never did this.
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