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Post by Jimmy D on Apr 9, 2004 14:50:36 GMT -5
I know this isnt about Oasis just wondering if anybody has this song [glow=red,2,300]1.DONT CRY[/glow] if u do cud u upload it for me please or just tell me were to get them from  Oh and please dont say Kazaa Imesh Morpheous cos i dont do them they anoy me thanks again! |
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Post by Toast960 on Apr 15, 2004 2:17:26 GMT -5
Which version are you looking for?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 17, 2015 15:00:27 GMT -5
A disappointingly deep dig to find a thread under this title. These guys seem pretty under-loved around these parts, whereas Oasis seem to fair surprisingly well on the opposite band's forum(s).
For a lot of fans, Guns 'n' Roses doesn't mean shit after Slash and Duff left in 96/97 and view the current brand band as effectively taken hostage by Axl. I'm not one of those guys though - I like both! I have very mixed feelings towards the current line-up, but pre 2004 group and the original clan were amazing.
So now I've found some context here's what I simply wanted to post:
If I ever had to write on a piece of paper what I wanted from a song, from the composition, to the feel, down to more intricate entities, this song came closest. It's not my favourite song of all time, heck It may not even be my favourite from the band, but if it came down to that piece of paper, this would be nearest thing to it I've heard. Classic.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 15:43:04 GMT -5
A disappointingly deep dig to find a thread under this title. These guys seem pretty under-loved around these parts, whereas Oasis seem to fair surprisingly well on the opposite band's forum(s). For a lot of fans, Guns 'n' Roses doesn't mean shit after Slash and Duff left in 96/97 and view the current brand band as effectively taken hostage by Axl. I'm not one of those guys though - I like both! I have very mixed feelings towards the current line-up, but pre 2004 group and the original clan were amazing. So now I've found some context here's what I simply wanted to post: If I ever had to write on a piece of paper what I wanted from a song, from the composition, to the feel, down to more intricate entities, this song came closest. It's definitely not my favourite song of all time, It may not even be my favourite from the band, but if it came down to that piece of paper, this would be nearest thing to it I've heard. SLASH has opened the door a bit for a eventual reunion  ...... he said the fans would love it , enough time has passed where the wounds arent so deep .......and HE WOULD NO LONGER SAY NEVER think this will happen talk about a money bonanza |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 17, 2015 15:51:40 GMT -5
A disappointingly deep dig to find a thread under this title. These guys seem pretty under-loved around these parts, whereas Oasis seem to fair surprisingly well on the opposite band's forum(s). For a lot of fans, Guns 'n' Roses doesn't mean shit after Slash and Duff left in 96/97 and view the current brand band as effectively taken hostage by Axl. I'm not one of those guys though - I like both! I have very mixed feelings towards the current line-up, but pre 2004 group and the original clan were amazing. So now I've found some context here's what I simply wanted to post: If I ever had to write on a piece of paper what I wanted from a song, from the composition, to the feel, down to more intricate entities, this song came closest. It's definitely not my favourite song of all time, It may not even be my favourite from the band, but if it came down to that piece of paper, this would be nearest thing to it I've heard. SLASH has opened the door a bit for a eventual reunion ...... he said the fans would love it , enough time has passed where the wounds arent so deep .......and HE WOULD NO LONGER SAY NEVER think this will happen talk about a money bonanza Duff and Sorum have agreed to it as well and Adler is practically gagging for it. Izzy, I'm not so sure about. Unfortunately however this leaves it all in Axl's court and knowing him I can't see it happening. He's too stubborn and too invested in Nu-GNR's to backtrack now. As great as it'd be I just can't see it. The one glimmer of hope I do see is that the current band is on Hiatus and down a lead guitarist. Plus Duff and Izzy have both performed with the new incarnation of the band and both are on good terms with Axl and the rest of the crew. Who knows? |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 15:58:09 GMT -5
SLASH has opened the door a bit for a eventual reunion ...... he said the fans would love it , enough time has passed where the wounds arent so deep .......and HE WOULD NO LONGER SAY NEVER think this will happen talk about a money bonanza Duff and Sorum have agreed to it as well and Adler is practically gagging for it. Izzy, I'm not so sure about. Unfortunately however this leaves it all in Axl's court and knowing him I can't see it happening. He's too stubborn and too invested in Nu-GNR's to backtrack now. As great as it'd be I just can't see it. The one glimmer of hope I do see is that the current band is on Hiatus and down a lead guitarist. Plus Duff and Izzy have both performed with the new incarnation of the band and both are on good terms with Axl and the rest of the crew. Who knows? very true ,, but time does heal and axle is about as high maintenance and vain as they come , with slash sorta throwing a olive branch , and the multi millions he would make (golden parachute ) it definatly seems more likely thasn ever before dont forget the EAGLES SDAID HELL WOULD FREEZE OVER before a reunion and VAN HALEN ( eddie and alex SWORE THAT DAVE WOULD NEVER BE ON A STAGE WITH THEM after the mtv disaster in like 98 when dave acted a fool) and there back so like u say who knows ? THOSE GIGS IN THE 80S were as good a rock show as i ever saw man worth the delay to stage cause of the partying |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 17, 2015 16:15:41 GMT -5
Duff and Sorum have agreed to it as well and Adler is practically gagging for it. Izzy, I'm not so sure about. Unfortunately however this leaves it all in Axl's court and knowing him I can't see it happening. He's too stubborn and too invested in Nu-GNR's to backtrack now. As great as it'd be I just can't see it. The one glimmer of hope I do see is that the current band is on Hiatus and down a lead guitarist. Plus Duff and Izzy have both performed with the new incarnation of the band and both are on good terms with Axl and the rest of the crew. Who knows? very true ,, but time does heal and axle is about as high maintenance and vain as they come , with slash sorta throwing a olive branch , and the multi millions he would make (golden parachute ) it definatly seems more likely thasn ever before dont forget the EAGLES SDAID HELL WOULD FREEZE OVER before a reunion and VAN HALEN ( eddie and alex SWORE THAT DAVE WOULD NEVER BE ON A STAGE WITH THEM after the mtv disaster in like 98 when dave acted a fool) and there back so like u say who knows ? THOSE GIGS IN THE 80S were as good a rock show as i ever saw man worth the delay to stage cause of the partying I think Axl too much of a control freak to overhaul what he's been doing the last 18/19 years or so. Can I see him loosening the reigns? No. Axl's needs a final say in everything, he's a perfectionist, and I can't see the Slash putting up with it in that regard. If the band came together again what would happen to Axl's 'Chinese Democracy' era material? Who'd play Buckethead's parts? For Axl to throw it all away he'd look a fool, and he has far too much pride in what he has written (and rightly so). For it to work long term, the band would either have to become a hybrid (there's 3 guitarist and 2 keyboard players ya' know) or simplify some of the newer material. Slash would have to improvise or something. All that said I'd love to see it and on the road I think it'd be fine. The only real issues would be in the studio. I think Axl showed his allegiance when he turned down performing and being inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago. Simply put It's complicated shit. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 16:41:15 GMT -5
very true ,, but time does heal and axle is about as high maintenance and vain as they come , with slash sorta throwing a olive branch , and the multi millions he would make (golden parachute ) it definatly seems more likely thasn ever before dont forget the EAGLES SDAID HELL WOULD FREEZE OVER before a reunion and VAN HALEN ( eddie and alex SWORE THAT DAVE WOULD NEVER BE ON A STAGE WITH THEM after the mtv disaster in like 98 when dave acted a fool) and there back so like u say who knows ? THOSE GIGS IN THE 80S were as good a rock show as i ever saw man worth the delay to stage cause of the partying I think Axl too much of a control freak to overhaul what he's been doing the last 18/19 years or so. Can I see him loosening the reigns? No. Axl's needs a final say in everything, he's a perfectionist, and I can't see the Slash putting up with it in that regard. If the band came together again what would happen to Axl's 'Chinese Democracy' era material? Who'd play Buckethead's parts? For Axl to throw it all away he'd look a fool, and he has far too much pride in what he has written (and rightly so). For it to work long term, the band would either have to become a hybrid (there's 3 guitarist and 2 keyboard players ya' know) or simplify some of the newer material. Slash would have to improvise or something. All that said I'd love to see it and on the road I think it'd be fine. The only real issues would be in the studio. I think Axl showed his allegiance when he turned down performing and being inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago. Simply put It's complicated shit. dont know ..... first off axle doesent exactly churn out albums often , so dont think a true reunion is what slash was talkling about ......i been hearing about chinese democracy as long as stop the clocks ,,,, that lp eemed to take longere than the originals lifetimes worth of material the nu guns has been on hiatus more years than they actually were a unit . it definatly all hinges on axle , but who knows how age is effecting him? ., the thought of a tour with no lp might appeal to him , he wont look like a fool at all to the media or the multi millions of fans he will make ectatic . we shall see , at least slash now says he is willing to talk |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 16:49:33 GMT -5
the only reason i even get a bit excited is for years slash downplayed it , would love to see time heal some wounds fow w axle rose
one thing ......IT WOULD MAKE FORE A WILD SUMMER TOUR IN STATES IF IT GOES DOWN
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Post by madferitusa2025 on May 17, 2015 17:12:59 GMT -5
For a lot of fans, Guns 'n' Roses doesn't mean shit after Slash and Duff left in 96/97 and view the current brand band as effectively taken hostage by Axl. I'm not one of those guys though - I like both! As do I. Saw the originals twice and the new line up once. My favorite is the Chinese Democracy leak though. I find that recording to be amazing to this day and far superior to the released version. I think Axl just added new elements to make it different and muddied it up in the process. I bought the disc and promptly put it away in favor of the leak one. Have you ever heard the leaked version? If so, I would be interested in your opinion vs. the released version. I've never been on GnR forums, but I find people I know just don't care about the new stuff. It seems the old is just too iconic, and they can't be arsed. As to a reunion, I think that's a tough sell for the reasons you described, as well as Axl's massive ego. But as Kalas said hell did freeze over and at todays prices a whopping cashout. I sure would be there. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 17, 2015 17:18:57 GMT -5
I think Axl too much of a control freak to overhaul what he's been doing the last 18/19 years or so. Can I see him loosening the reigns? No. Axl's needs a final say in everything, he's a perfectionist, and I can't see the Slash putting up with it in that regard. If the band came together again what would happen to Axl's 'Chinese Democracy' era material? Who'd play Buckethead's parts? For Axl to throw it all away he'd look a fool, and he has far too much pride in what he has written (and rightly so). For it to work long term, the band would either have to become a hybrid (there's 3 guitarist and 2 keyboard players ya' know) or simplify some of the newer material. Slash would have to improvise or something. All that said I'd love to see it and on the road I think it'd be fine. The only real issues would be in the studio. I think Axl showed his allegiance when he turned down performing and being inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame a few years ago. Simply put It's complicated shit. dont know ..... first off axle doesent exactly churn out albums often , so dont think a true reunion is what slash was talkling about ......i been hearing about chinese democracy as long as stop the clocks ,,,, that lp eemed to take longere than the originals lifetimes worth of material the nu guns has been on hiatus more years than they actually were a unit . it definatly all hinges on axle , but who knows how age is effecting him? ., the thought of a tour with no lp might appeal to him , he wont look like a fool at all to the media or the multi millions of fans he will make ectatic . we shall see , at least slash now says he is willing to talk The only problem is, is 'Chinese Democracy II' has been written and recorded already, so I wonder how Axl would feel in that regards? It took him 17 years to release 1 album, so god only knows why killed off any momentum he had by decided not to release anything over 7 years subsequent. Like you said, we shall see... |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 17, 2015 17:34:41 GMT -5
For a lot of fans, Guns 'n' Roses doesn't mean shit after Slash and Duff left in 96/97 and view the current brand band as effectively taken hostage by Axl. I'm not one of those guys though - I like both! As do I. Saw the originals twice and the new line up once. My favorite is the Chinese Democracy leak though. I find that recording to be amazing to this day and far superior to the released version. I think Axl just added new elements to make it different and muddied it up in the process. I bought the disc and promptly put it away in favor of the leak one. Have you ever heard the leaked version? If so, I would be interested in your opinion vs. the released version.
I've never been on GnR forums, but I find people I know just don't care about the new stuff. It seems the old is just too iconic, and they can't be arsed.
As to a reunion, I think that's a tough sell for the reasons you described, as well as Axl's massive ego. But as Kalas said hell did freeze over and at todays prices a whopping cashout. I sure would be there. Not really. I've heard a few bit on youtube (' Catcher In The Rye', ' IRS' and maybe ' Street Of Dreams' (aka ' The Blues')) but that's about it. I understand ' There Was A Time' and ' Better' are about too. Correct me if I'm wrong but are these not just demos? Or is there early studio recordings out there too? I much prefer the piano on these recordings and the more rough cut 'IRS' definitely shows more potential, but my opinions are pretty mixed overall. Personally I like the official version of ' Chinese Democracy' (the song) over the more stripped back version they played early on (without the intro, less guitars and more electronic jazz in the verses). In terms of GNR fans on forums, the response is relatively positive in regards to the newer material, but there's a universal annoyance over the lack of it, how the band makes about it's business (forever on tour) and how the band is managed. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on May 17, 2015 17:56:52 GMT -5
As do I. Saw the originals twice and the new line up once. My favorite is the Chinese Democracy leak though. I find that recording to be amazing to this day and far superior to the released version. I think Axl just added new elements to make it different and muddied it up in the process. I bought the disc and promptly put it away in favor of the leak one. Have you ever heard the leaked version? If so, I would be interested in your opinion vs. the released version.
I've never been on GnR forums, but I find people I know just don't care about the new stuff. It seems the old is just too iconic, and they can't be arsed.
As to a reunion, I think that's a tough sell for the reasons you described, as well as Axl's massive ego. But as Kalas said hell did freeze over and at todays prices a whopping cashout. I sure would be there. Not really. I've heard a few bit on youtube (' Catcher In The Rye', ' IRS' and maybe ' Street Of Dreams' (aka ' The Blues')) but that's about it. I understand ' There Was A Time' and ' Better' are about too. Correct me if I'm wrong but are these not just demos? Or is there early studio recordings out there too? I much prefer the piano on these recordings and the more rough cut 'IRS' definitely shows more potential, but my opinions are pretty mixed overall. Personally I like the official version of ' Chinese Democracy' (the song) over the more stripped back version they played early on (without the intro, less guitars and more electronic jazz in the verses). In terms of GNR fans on forums, the response is relatively positive in regards to the newer material, but there's a universal annoyance over the lack of it, how the band makes about it's business (forever on tour) and how the band is managed. This narrative from the guy who served a year probation for the leak, seems to say these were finished recordings. antiquiet.com/misc/truth/2014/01/full-story-behind-chinese-democracy/ |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 17, 2015 18:00:08 GMT -5
Not really. I've heard a few bit on youtube (' Catcher In The Rye', ' IRS' and maybe ' Street Of Dreams' (aka ' The Blues')) but that's about it. I understand ' There Was A Time' and ' Better' are about too. Correct me if I'm wrong but are these not just demos? Or is there early studio recordings out there too? I much prefer the piano on these recordings and the more rough cut 'IRS' definitely shows more potential, but my opinions are pretty mixed overall. Personally I like the official version of ' Chinese Democracy' (the song) over the more stripped back version they played early on (without the intro, less guitars and more electronic jazz in the verses). In terms of GNR fans on forums, the response is relatively positive in regards to the newer material, but there's a universal annoyance over the lack of it, how the band makes about it's business (forever on tour) and how the band is managed. This narrative from the guy who served a year probation for the leak, seems to say these were finished recordings. antiquiet.com/misc/truth/2014/01/full-story-behind-chinese-democracy/I can't have heard it then. The stuff I'm talking about is: |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 18:28:58 GMT -5
For a lot of fans, Guns 'n' Roses doesn't mean shit after Slash and Duff left in 96/97 and view the current brand band as effectively taken hostage by Axl. I'm not one of those guys though - I like both! As do I. Saw the originals twice and the new line up once. My favorite is the Chinese Democracy leak though. I find that recording to be amazing to this day and far superior to the released version. I think Axl just added new elements to make it different and muddied it up in the process. I bought the disc and promptly put it away in favor of the leak one. Have you ever heard the leaked version? If so, I would be interested in your opinion vs. the released version. I've never been on GnR forums, but I find people I know just don't care about the new stuff. It seems the old is just too iconic, and they can't be arsed. As to a reunion, I think that's a tough sell for the reasons you described, as well as Axl's massive ego. But as Kalas said hell did freeze over and at todays prices a whopping cashout. I sure would be there. no question a reunion is not a lock ...it would be great tho i loved the leak !! think it sounded fresher , but i liked CD not a old gunner who hates on it ...I THINK alot of fans just gave up after so many rumours it was imminent i still like appetite and illusion best , HOWEVER CD is no slouch !!! axle delivered man glad i got another gunner fan ( not a aresnal one ) |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on May 17, 2015 18:45:16 GMT -5
As do I. Saw the originals twice and the new line up once. My favorite is the Chinese Democracy leak though. I find that recording to be amazing to this day and far superior to the released version. I think Axl just added new elements to make it different and muddied it up in the process. I bought the disc and promptly put it away in favor of the leak one. Have you ever heard the leaked version? If so, I would be interested in your opinion vs. the released version. I've never been on GnR forums, but I find people I know just don't care about the new stuff. It seems the old is just too iconic, and they can't be arsed. As to a reunion, I think that's a tough sell for the reasons you described, as well as Axl's massive ego. But as Kalas said hell did freeze over and at todays prices a whopping cashout. I sure would be there. no question a reunion is not a lock ...it would be great tho i loved the leak !! think it sounded fresher , but i liked CD not a old gunner who hates on it ...I THINK alot of fans just gave up after so many rumours it was imminent i still like appetite and illusion best , HOWEVER CD is no slouch !!! axle delivered man glad i got another gunner fan ( not a aresnal one ) Appetite is the go to. Always had a lot of love for Illusion. Of course I never forget Used to Love her, Had to Kill Her  Saw the Gunners open for Aerosmith early on, and caught the GnR Metallica extravaganza. Good times 4 sure. |
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Post by Sternumman on May 17, 2015 18:48:15 GMT -5
Was never a GNR fan growing up but it probably had more to do with my sister being such a big fan and not the music. She had a felt Appetite for Destruction poster on the wall and played them constantly. I'm happy they helped kill the hair metal movement. They were way ahead musically than bands like Motley Crüe, Warrent, and Rat but once the grunge movement came in they started to feel dated.
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Post by Manualex on May 17, 2015 18:52:23 GMT -5
I would be fine if Axl was the sole GnR if it meant more material, but since it isn't I am not.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 19:48:34 GMT -5
no question a reunion is not a lock ...it would be great tho i loved the leak !! think it sounded fresher , but i liked CD not a old gunner who hates on it ...I THINK alot of fans just gave up after so many rumours it was imminent i still like appetite and illusion best , HOWEVER CD is no slouch !!! axle delivered man glad i got another gunner fan ( not a aresnal one ) Appetite is the go to. Always had a lot of love for Illusion. Of course I never forget Used to Love her, Had to Kill Her Saw the Gunners open for Aerosmith early on, and caught the GnR Metallica extravaganza. Good times 4 sure. caught those gigs as well was there when they filmed that portion of paradise city at giants stadium (they blew aerosmoith and metallica away imo ) there best gig i saw was there nassau collisseum gig where they showed up around midnight but played all nite , great gig |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on May 17, 2015 20:09:59 GMT -5
Appetite is the go to. Always had a lot of love for Illusion. Of course I never forget Used to Love her, Had to Kill Her Saw the Gunners open for Aerosmith early on, and caught the GnR Metallica extravaganza. Good times 4 sure. caught those gigs as well was there when they filmed that portion of paradise city at giants stadium (they blew aerosmoith and metallica away imo ) there best gig i saw was there nassau collisseum gig where they showed upidnight but played all nite , great gig I think they always showed up @ midnight. I seem to remember leaving The Pontiac Silverdome at about 3:00 AM. I've never been more glad to have the next day off work. And yeah, they took both of those bands down those nights. |
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Post by sortitout1471 on May 18, 2015 19:39:12 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 22, 2015 16:58:25 GMT -5
I'm not a huge Guns 'n Roses fan. It's the typical case of loving the classics (Sweet Child O Mine, Paradise City, Welcome To The Jungle, November Rain etc.) and getting disappointed when digging deeper.
I'm also not a huge fan of Axl's voice.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on May 22, 2015 19:37:17 GMT -5
Anyone have any thoughts on the demo to 'Going Down' which leaked ~2 years back?
I thought it was a nice throwback to the acoustic Izzy sung tracks of the classic era and Tommy Stinson (Bass - The Replacements) did a good job on lead vocal. I've always preferred albums which feature more than one singer singing lead vocal, as it helps mix things up nicely and make the album less 1 dimensional (hence why I had no real issue with the ever increasing number of Noel sung song in Oasis). Once it's recorded released proper it'll make a decent album worthy track as far as I'm concerned. Stick 'Oh My God' and 'Silkworms' on it and that's 3 winners for starts.
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Post by matt on May 22, 2015 21:21:54 GMT -5
I've always been indifferent towards them, but there is respect there - I think Slash is an amazing guitarist. I first heard of them back when I was 12/13, my friends were into them in a big way so a lot of those songs are engrained in my head. Welcome To The Jungle and Sweet Child O Mine are classics whatever you think.
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Post by globe on May 23, 2015 1:40:09 GMT -5
Their first album has some great almost punky like tunes on it.
But I could never like a band that wears cowboy boots and leather breeks.
I think what I'm trying to say is they are shite.
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