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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 29, 2020 7:55:33 GMT -5
I was following the leaks very closely. As you say the majority were instrumentals but we did end up with about half an albums worth of brand new material with Axl vocals: Hardschool - this is looking likely to be become a new single, they rehearsed it recently at their last gig in Mexico with Axl on vocals. Atlas Strugged - excellent as you say. Perhaps - another excellent track, could easily have been on Use Your Illusion. State Of Grace - my favourite of the leaks, killer vocals, could have been a huge GNR comeback single in the 2000s. Eye On You - a decent album track. Nothing - pretty poor but noteworthy as it features vocals. Silkworms - played live in 2001 but this is the first time a studio version has leaked. It's also worth noting that we basically got an early cut of Chinese Democracy from 2000 in CD#1 of the leaks, with a FAR better sound mix than we got with the final 2008 release, less layers and proper bass. Rumour has it that they're on the brink of putting out a new album, but I imagine the Coronavirus has put a massive spanner in the works. Such a great time for fans of the Chinese Democracy era. Generally I'm a big fan of all the leaks. Here's my rundown: Atlas Shrugged - A bit more upbeat than what we got on CD. Very catchy. I love the way the 2nd verse comes in, I hope they haven't fucked with that. Nice solo from Brian May too. An obvious single for me that I could see anti-CD fans liking. 9/10 The General [Partial leak] - Ok it's not been fully leaked but a very hard to hear 2 minute clip of it being played at 2010 GNR after party has been. The very talented Evader has reconstructed it and it sounds like an epic. Really mean, soaring guitar solos abound. Listen to Evader's reconstruction then the genuine leak and it'll pop out from all the background noise. There's a reason 'Atlas Shrugged' and 'The General' were referred to as "big guns" before the leaks. 9/10
State of Grace - One of the more industrial tracks, reminiscent of Nine Inch Nails/Marilyn Manson. I've never heard Axl singing in such a laid back manner before (it works really well). Lots of interesting stuff happening instrumentally. Very much album worthy. 8/10 Going Down - One of the older leaks now. Again one of the more upbeat tracks I could see anti-CD fans liking. Great vocals from Tommy Stinson, though this could hinder it from future release. Hopefully not! 8/10Hardschool - A very short clip of it leaked an absolute age ago under the fan penned title 'Checkmate' (though Axl later clarified it as 'Jackie Chan'). Seems to be the fans favourite from what I've seen. A straightforward rocker with some very hooky vocals. Like you said it's recently been rehearsed so I fully expect it to come out at some point. Apparently there's a short clip out there of them rehearsing it with a reworked intro, something I don't disapprove of. 8/10 Silkworms - Two versions of this have been leaked now, one from ~2001 (like they played live) and a more straightforward punky version presumably from later. Both are good but the rework takes it for me. I can see this version fitting into an album much easier. Not a popular choice amongst the fans but I like it. 8/10 Perhaps - Seems to be a popular cut. I'm not quite behind the hype personally, the piano riff feels a touch clunky for me. I'm pleased it didn't make CD but it deserves to be released in some format. I wouldn't be against it going on a future album but it's a lower priority. 7/10 Eye On You - I'm a little undecided on this one. Sounds like it should have been on the soundtrack to some early 00's sci-fi/action movie. As is I can't see it fitting on an album as it's definitely dated the most. I'd totally understand why others wouldn't like it. " I know you think you're bad but who's the mac daddy" x8 Haha! 6/10 Nothing - Not feeling this one at all. I'm all down for more experimental cuts but this is a slam dunk in the recycling bin. 3/10 I believe the only other track of that era we have with vocals not to feature on CD is the demo to 'Oh My God' which was officially released back in 99. I love that song (9/10) but whether it'd come out on an album over 20 years later after being officially released is unlikely. They did rerecord it for CD so a proper version of it does exist. It'd be nice to hear that one day. As for the instrumentals my favourites are 'P.R.L.', 'Dummy', 'Quick Song', 'Zodiac 13', 'Tonto', 'The Rebel', 'Real Doll.com' and 'Dub Suplex'. God it's good to hear some more Buckethead. I thought the instrumental demo to 'Shackler's Revenge' was wonderful. I believe I'm missing one or two of the instrumentals ('Down by the Ocean' and another) but I'll try get my hands on them at some point. Of the songs that were later released on CD it was interesting to hear what had and hadn't changed. Off the top of my head I prefer the ~01 versions of 'Street of Dreams' and 'Catcher In the Rye' in particular. As for a new album, I'll have to see it before I believe it! Me & My Elvis (aka Soul Monster) is another one of the instrumantal tracks that absolutely needs to be released with vocals. Apparently Axl intended for Chinese to be a 2 or 3 album project which is why he held back so many great songs, which I guess you already know. I think I have all of the tracks that leaked last year with the exception of Prom Violence. I dont think Down By The Ocean has ever leaked in any form. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Mar 29, 2020 8:09:50 GMT -5
Such a great time for fans of the Chinese Democracy era. Generally I'm a big fan of all the leaks. Here's my rundown: Atlas Shrugged - A bit more upbeat than what we got on CD. Very catchy. I love the way the 2nd verse comes in, I hope they haven't fucked with that. Nice solo from Brian May too. An obvious single for me that I could see anti-CD fans liking. 9/10 The General [Partial leak] - Ok it's not been fully leaked but a very hard to hear 2 minute clip of it being played at 2010 GNR after party has been. The very talented Evader has reconstructed it and it sounds like an epic. Really mean, soaring guitar solos abound. Listen to Evader's reconstruction then the genuine leak and it'll pop out from all the background noise. There's a reason 'Atlas Shrugged' and 'The General' were referred to as "big guns" before the leaks. 9/10
State of Grace - One of the more industrial tracks, reminiscent of Nine Inch Nails/Marilyn Manson. I've never heard Axl singing in such a laid back manner before (it works really well). Lots of interesting stuff happening instrumentally. Very much album worthy. 8/10 Going Down - One of the older leaks now. Again one of the more upbeat tracks I could see anti-CD fans liking. Great vocals from Tommy Stinson, though this could hinder it from future release. Hopefully not! 8/10Hardschool - A very short clip of it leaked an absolute age ago under the fan penned title 'Checkmate' (though Axl later clarified it as 'Jackie Chan'). Seems to be the fans favourite from what I've seen. A straightforward rocker with some very hooky vocals. Like you said it's recently been rehearsed so I fully expect it to come out at some point. Apparently there's a short clip out there of them rehearsing it with a reworked intro, something I don't disapprove of. 8/10 Silkworms - Two versions of this have been leaked now, one from ~2001 (like they played live) and a more straightforward punky version presumably from later. Both are good but the rework takes it for me. I can see this version fitting into an album much easier. Not a popular choice amongst the fans but I like it. 8/10 Perhaps - Seems to be a popular cut. I'm not quite behind the hype personally, the piano riff feels a touch clunky for me. I'm pleased it didn't make CD but it deserves to be released in some format. I wouldn't be against it going on a future album but it's a lower priority. 7/10 Eye On You - I'm a little undecided on this one. Sounds like it should have been on the soundtrack to some early 00's sci-fi/action movie. As is I can't see it fitting on an album as it's definitely dated the most. I'd totally understand why others wouldn't like it. " I know you think you're bad but who's the mac daddy" x8 Haha! 6/10 Nothing - Not feeling this one at all. I'm all down for more experimental cuts but this is a slam dunk in the recycling bin. 3/10 I believe the only other track of that era we have with vocals not to feature on CD is the demo to 'Oh My God' which was officially released back in 99. I love that song (9/10) but whether it'd come out on an album over 20 years later after being officially released is unlikely. They did rerecord it for CD so a proper version of it does exist. It'd be nice to hear that one day. As for the instrumentals my favourites are 'P.R.L.', 'Dummy', 'Quick Song', 'Zodiac 13', 'Tonto', 'The Rebel', 'Real Doll.com' and 'Dub Suplex'. God it's good to hear some more Buckethead. I thought the instrumental demo to 'Shackler's Revenge' was wonderful. I believe I'm missing one or two of the instrumentals ('Down by the Ocean' and another) but I'll try get my hands on them at some point. Of the songs that were later released on CD it was interesting to hear what had and hadn't changed. Off the top of my head I prefer the ~01 versions of 'Street of Dreams' and 'Catcher In the Rye' in particular. As for a new album, I'll have to see it before I believe it! Me & My Elvis (aka Soul Monster) is another one of the instrumantal tracks that absolutely needs to be released with vocals. Apparently Axl intended for Chinese to be a 2 or 3 album project which is why he held back so many great songs, which I guess you already know. I think I have all of the tracks that leaked last year with the exception of Prom Violence. I dont think Down By The Ocean has ever leaked in any form. That's another good one. Provided it is 'Soul Monster' (and it likely is) it definitely has had vocals put to it. I've just had a check and you're right it's not 'DBTO' but 'Oklahoma' I'm missing. 'Prom Violence' is pretty decent but not an obvious highlight in my opinion. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 23, 2020 13:09:45 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Guns N Roses but I've always liked November Rain by them. That is a good song.
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 23, 2020 17:06:20 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Guns N Roses but I've always liked November Rain by them. That is a good song. If you like November Rain you should check out Estranged if you haven't already. |
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 24, 2020 13:15:12 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Guns N Roses but I've always liked November Rain by them. That is a good song. If you like November Rain you should check out Estranged if you haven't already. To be honest I don't think that I could stomach a full album by them. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 26, 2021 16:54:43 GMT -5
2 new GNR songs on Spotify, Hard Skool and Absurd. Both originate from the early Chinese Democracy sessions. Hopefully a new album follows soon!
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Post by Bellboy on Sept 28, 2021 7:43:03 GMT -5
2 new GNR songs on Spotify, Hard Skool and Absurd. Both originate from the early Chinese Democracy sessions. Hopefully a new album follows soon! Thanks for this. Just reading this thread, anyway to get the previous leaks? |
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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 28, 2021 7:46:18 GMT -5
2 new GNR songs on Spotify, Hard Skool and Absurd. Both originate from the early Chinese Democracy sessions. Hopefully a new album follows soon! Thanks for this. Just reading this thread, anyway to get the previous leaks? I can send them to you tonight if you want. I have them on my laptop at home. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jan 20, 2024 15:33:10 GMT -5
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Post by jeffrey on Jan 25, 2024 2:50:56 GMT -5
Never been a fan, but like a couple tunes of theirs. However, I just recently heard the song, “If The World” and it blew my mind. Anyone know if the rest of Chinese Democracy has more of this style on it?
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 31, 2024 14:05:33 GMT -5
Never been a fan, but like a couple tunes of theirs. However, I just recently heard the song, “If The World” and it blew my mind. Anyone know if the rest of Chinese Democracy has more of this style on it? The only song I've ever liked by them is November Rain. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Feb 28, 2024 0:41:11 GMT -5
Never been a fan, but like a couple tunes of theirs. However, I just recently heard the song, “If The World” and it blew my mind. Anyone know if the rest of Chinese Democracy has more of this style on it? The only song I've ever liked by them is November Rain. Check out both the piano-only and the guitar-only demos for November Rain. Both are easy to find on YouTube and were more recently cleaned up for official release of the Super Deluxe version of Appetite for Destruction. On the same release, the track was re-recorded with a real orchestra also. Guess they used synths back in ‘91. |
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Post by Bellboy on Feb 28, 2024 3:28:35 GMT -5
Thanks for this. Just reading this thread, anyway to get the previous leaks? I can send them to you tonight if you want. I have them on my laptop at home. gaspanic hey any update on that message please? 😉 |
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 1, 2024 4:08:20 GMT -5
I can send them to you tonight if you want. I have them on my laptop at home. gaspanic hey any update on that message please? 😉 Check your PMs  |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 21, 2024 13:27:03 GMT -5
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