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Post by As You Built The Moon on Sept 9, 2015 18:15:17 GMT -5
I read the interview where Noel said his favorite band at the time was Kings of Leon long before I'd heard about them anywhere else.
They introduced me to the Stone Roses, the Smiths, and the Jam and probably a lot of other people in the US had the same experience.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Aug 22, 2015 17:15:49 GMT -5
Married with children is a pretty nice stand alone song. But it absolutely does not fit the feel of the album and stands out like a sore thumb. That's entirely true, but that's why it works. Think of it as an after dinner mint song. After the enrapturing Slide Away and the raw energy of the album as a whole it's good to come down with a simple acoustic ditty before you turn off the stereo.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Aug 6, 2015 12:50:16 GMT -5
Most of Oasis' influences like the Who, Rolling Stones, Elvis, Hendrix ... were all influenced by black northern soul music. Also I remember quotes from Noel praising Public Enemy and from Liam praising Sly and the Family Stone. Oscar Harrison, the drummer for Ocean Colour Scene, is black and they opened for Oasis. Watch the ...There and Then video which features black artists in the tribute slide show during Live Forever. None of that proves anything, but it's no less valid than what Mensa is throwing around here.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Aug 5, 2015 15:41:06 GMT -5
There's that one moment, I believe it was on the There and Then video, where Liam is looking up at an overhead camera with a childlike expression, innocuously reaching for it with his hand, before flipping the "V" gesture and leaning his head to the side as if to mock you for getting too close. That summed it up so much; Oasis had just the right balance of optimism and cynicism to click with me as a teenager up to now.
There's definitely something about music by Oasis or specifically Noel that has that distinct effect on me. I've never felt it from anything else, from music or otherwise. A few other things come close -- Weller's first few solo albums, Nick Drake, the Stone Roses debut -- but still don't find the same mark. Listening to Noel's music I just think he's from a cooler world.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 29, 2015 22:20:42 GMT -5
Don't Look Back In Acne (at your yearbook photos) Blackheadshrinker Keep The Cream Alive Grease Panic! The Swamp Face (It's Good) To Be Clean Idler's Cream
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 29, 2015 12:21:30 GMT -5
That's about how long ago it was.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 29, 2015 11:51:10 GMT -5
I don't really bother with wallpapers anymore but this was my favorite from what I used to have: And I used to use an Oasis wallpaper that was a really cool drawing of the band circa 1995 with them sitting on a giant version of Noel's Union Jack guitar as it flew over the clouds. (If anyone still knows where to find that, please post it.) I think it was part of an Oasis Windows theme that somebody put together. That had to be at least 10 years ago.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 22, 2015 14:52:34 GMT -5
DYKWIM for r1. This ain't gonna be much of a fair fight.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 16, 2015 21:05:28 GMT -5
The reissue of (What's The Story) Morning Glory? has more of the intro to Bonehead's Bank Holiday than was included on the original (vinyl only) version.
I Am The Walrus has almost two minutes cut from it on The Masterplan from its original inclusion on the Cigarettes & Alcohol single.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 6, 2015 14:24:36 GMT -5
I'm sure they'd all sound better if he'd written them.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 6, 2015 14:15:41 GMT -5
If I Had A Gun… Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach The Girl With X-Ray Eyes The Mexican You Know We Can’t Go Back Ballad Of The Mighty I The Good Rebel Freaky Teeth
Everybody's On The Run and AKA... What A Life!, maybe with Noel singing the chorus.
Most of those are songs that I more think Liam would've been okay on, not necessarily better. This is a bit harsh, but the truth is Noel gained a lot of freedom not having to write around Liam's voice as it's become (or even circa '94) and I wouldn't want Liam singing most of these live. Even if Liam's voice never got worse, his biggest contribution to Oasis was bringing out a brash punk side of Noel's music that, because of Noel's age just isn't there anymore.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 5, 2015 14:47:05 GMT -5
For now I'm going to go with Fade Away (War Child Version.) That's my 'you're feeling down so go outside with a pair of headphones and watch the clouds float by and not have anything bother you' song. But there's probably dozens of others that could be my favorite for different reasons.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 3, 2015 12:31:40 GMT -5
"I hate pop stars who go on whinin' about the price of fame and this that and the other. Let me just tell you that being famous is great. I love it, man. I think it's the best when you get stopped walking down the street for an autograph, that's the best feeling in the world. Then you get people like Eddie Vedder, you know what I mean? It's like, what's the point? Why is he in a band if he's so pissed off, you know what I mean? Why don't you just work in a car wash you know what I mean? Or like McDonald's or something." - Noel Dunno if he's met them, but take that for what it's worth. Also from when Oasis started their first American tour, via Michael Krugman's book: Again, for what it's worth. He might say something entirely different now.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 30, 2015 11:40:18 GMT -5
Oasis might go on a nostalgia tour or just do a few special performances years from now, but it will be without a new album. However, like someone said on the board recently, I don't know if I actually want to see a 50+ year old Liam singing Rock 'n Roll Star. I'd be happy for the kids who couldn't see them in their heyday getting one last chance, but I voted neither because I wouldn't be surprised if it never happens. A Beady Eye reunion would look pretty embarrassing, sorry to say. I hope everyone in that band moves on to greater things before it comes to that. Liam wasn't in the Rain. Liam was in the Rain, Noel wasn't Technically, I don't think either of them were. I'm basing that on that old interview with Noel and Bonehead that got released on CD. I specifically remember Noel saying "Liam wasn't in the rain." Right after Chris Hutton was gone Liam started Oasis with the Rain's members. Bottom line, I don't think he did any shows or wrote any songs when they were under that name.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 30, 2015 9:06:11 GMT -5
Oasis might go on a nostalgia tour or just do a few special performances years from now, but it will be without a new album. However, like someone said on the board recently, I don't know if I actually want to see a 50+ year old Liam singing Rock 'n Roll Star. I'd be happy for the kids who couldn't see them in their heyday getting one last chance, but I voted neither because I wouldn't be surprised if it never happens.
A Beady Eye reunion would look pretty embarrassing, sorry to say. I hope everyone in that band moves on to greater things before it comes to that.
Liam wasn't in the Rain.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 29, 2015 16:14:17 GMT -5
Not that they *needed* a song like this or anything, but with a few changes it might have been right for Liam's voice and fit as an album closer in place of say, Better Man.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 29, 2015 16:02:35 GMT -5
I definitely remember hearing it and wishing it had been an Oasis song or that Oasis could have taken that sort of direction for at least one album. Heathen Chemistry might have been better with that than what we got, and then DBTT could have been their back to roots triumph. I dunno. This song sounds a lot like Optimistic by Radiohead. Anyone else hear it? Just playing them in my head now, no. They kind of have the same mood, but I'm not remembering any literal similarities.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 28, 2015 21:06:51 GMT -5
Reading their stories and interviews in the press/biographies and laughing painfully hard or just enjoying their perspective on things. They had entertaining minds even without their music.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 26, 2015 12:59:15 GMT -5
Doves - Lost Souls I remember I'd never heard of the band and preordered this entirely because of the cover after seeing it in a magazine ad. Album was everything I'd hoped it to be. Modest Mouse - This Is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About Fantastic title with a class cover that made me really want to like the album, but I was never able to. Erlend Øye - Legao Nice and soft lines to complement the music. Paul Weller - Heavy Soul Paid up big for the vinyl after I finally got a turntable. I could post Oasis bootleg covers all day but my favorites are:
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 25, 2015 10:21:13 GMT -5
I can't believe someone mentioned the intro of DYKWIM as the lowest point of BHN. Staggering. I'm more surprised someone would say it's the Magic Pie outro, but to each his own. And I wanted to add that GGTIA had me very excited for Liam's future as a songwriter, but it looks like that was his highest point.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 24, 2015 15:45:17 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe: Peak: The vocalizing on Slide Away, the unhinged guitar on Bring It On Down, the soaring chorus on Columbia, the epinephrine releasing opening chords of Rock n Roll Star ... too many to think about so I'm just going to default to the Live Forever solo. Lowest point: Just before Married With Children comes on, and I realize I've only got a couple more minutes of bliss as they tone it down before the album's over and I'm back to reality.
(What's the Story) Morning Glory?: Peak: Falling into a cocoon state listening to Champagne Supernova Lowest point: Sitting through Hey Now and feeling content but not enthralled
Be Here Now: Peak: "Please don't cry and never say die!" Lowest point: Sitting through It's Gettin' Better (Man!!) just to honor my habit of listening to albums all the way through after I've already been listening for seven hours
Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants: Peak: Getting dropped into a different place with Where Did It All Go Wrong? I think that song is very underrated, personally. Lowest point: "Live for your toys, even though they make noise" -- worst Oasis lyric ever and it's in a Hey Jude knockoff.
Familiar To Millions: Peak: Gas Panic! getting a better treatment than it did on the album version Lowest point: Sloppiest Wonderwall I can remember hearing from Liam
Heathen Chemistry: Peak: Stop Crying Your Heart Out. I think a reviewer said you can close your eyes and for a minute, you're back in 1995. I agree. It's like a ghost of what the band used to be. Lowest point: Inevitably visualizing Bob from That 70's Show when I hear Noel sing "all I know is I'm in love with someone who loves me too" because of the supermarket PA-worthy cheesiness of the whole thing.
Don't Believe the Truth: Peak: Hard to choose. Someone's already praised the Importance of Being Idle so I'm going to say Guess God Thinks I'm Abel. It's a different kind of song from them and there's just something I've always found enchanting about it. Lowest point: The milquetoast Let There Be Love lyrics. It's a beautiful version of the song in terms of the sound, but I wish Noel had stuck with his knack of dark lyrics in uplifting melodies by keeping the lyrics from when it was the It's A Crime demo.
Dig Out Your Soul: Peak: Falling Down. Don't want to get religious on anyone but I had fairly recently become an agnostic atheist, so the line about telling god not to waste your time resonated with me and who better to hear it from than Noel. Lowest point: Ain't Got Nothin', which I always just skip or pretend it was left on there by accident.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 24, 2015 14:29:51 GMT -5
Noel thought he was all four Beatles in one and that he had a well of classics in him that would never run dry. A lot of people thought that. Turned out it wasn't true.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 22, 2015 22:17:08 GMT -5
I've been seriously fighting the temptation of purchasing Beats every single time I'm out. I can't really afford to, and feel like I'd be just paying for the name (although sampling them at Best Buy, they seem a bit of alreet). Think I will finally get a pair of new headphones this year, but might hold off til Xmas. Either way, this thread is incredibly useful. Will keep my Bose, mind, but am looking for something beefier in terms of sound (bass, especially). Your feeling is probably right. All I've heard about Beats is that they're very, very cheaply made for listeners who just want a heavy bass, and that you can get the same quality for far less. Maybe it isn't true for all their models, but I wouldn't trust a company that would do that. And for whatever it's worth, I hung around audiophile forums when I was building a stereo system, and they all ripped on Bose. The company's earlier products are said to be alright, but the popular line is "no highs, no lows, must be Bose." Some will admit that it's mostly the company's advertising and marketing practices that they really hate, but it's generally agreed that they don't deserve to be the big household name for quality audio when there's so much better out there. It was mostly about speakers, but they'd probably say the same about headphones. I think I've had three Sennheisers at less than $30 each. One started going in and out after a year or two, one got lost, and the ones I currently have have lasted a few years albeit with very rare use since I'm more of a speaker guy. I got them all online and I've never seen them at Best Buy but I think they're a good brand until they stop working.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 22, 2015 21:30:53 GMT -5
Just making it so BHN was a hit doesn't change the problems that led to it being a flop.
Between BHN and SOTSOG both brothers stopped taking drugs after other people convinced them it was time to do so. SOTSOG was pretty much Noel signaling that he was no longer interested in making landmark albums and wanted Oasis to be just another band. I doubt we'd have seen that if they were still under pressure to be the greatest band ever. Either someone would've been found dead in their hotel room in front of a Scarface sized pile of coke or their fourth album would've suffered the same fate as BHN, or both.
Or they could've been like the Rolling Stones and weathered through it all, but that would probably also mean a stack of bad albums to go along with their great ones.
Here in the US, it's never seemed to me like BHN played into their downfall all that much. The gripes I always hear are usually "they just copied the Beatles" or "the brothers always fight" ... I rarely heard "that third album sucked." I don't think America was ever going to have a long lasting love for them either way. At best, there would just be a hard split between the haters and their cult following, and I really don't want to make this comparison, but it would look similar to where Nickelback is now.
In the UK, there'd be more respect for them. You'd have less closet fans who pretend they never liked them because it's cool to bash Oasis.
I will say that their previous stuff would probably rate much higher today if the perception of the band had stayed positive for a couple, three more years. DM and WTSMG would be widely remembered as essential 90s albums.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jun 22, 2015 18:40:58 GMT -5
Just looking at their roles as openers, EOTR is better at getting you primed up for the rest of the songs, but Riverman is better at setting the mood specific to the album. EOTR grabs you, but you're left almost expecting a better Be Here Now and instead you get a pop tune here, a rocker there, etc. The bluesy feel of Riverman sticks with you for the rest of the album.
EOTR with that grandiose booming choir is the best Noel's done at opening an album since RnRS, but as a song overall I'd say Riverman edges out.
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