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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 27, 2015 17:31:49 GMT -5
Noel in 2008:
It seems like there's this constant thing with you guys where the new work is always compared to the old work, specifically, the first two records.
Yeah, well...I don't live in the past with Oasis, d'ya know what I mean? It's kind of what's gone on before is irrelevant to me. Is it as good as "Definitely Maybe?" Is it as good as "Morning Glory"? I don't care. I don't listen to either of them, d'ya know what I mean? And after I finish this tour, I won't listen to this one either. So, fans can get on all the forums and they can debate it 'til they're (bleeping) blue in the face. I've got better things to do, like the next record.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 26, 2015 23:25:44 GMT -5
Rejected by a dolphin.
Hemmed in like a boar between arches or hung by your pretty white neck some eighteen months ago?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 24, 2015 16:40:29 GMT -5
Last Christmas I went with English fare and made Gordon Ramsay's beef Wellington that has roasted chestnuts and made my first Yorkshire puddings. Excellent. Someone else's turn to make dinner this year but I'm making a black forrest cake for dessert. Might add some rum to the cherries.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 23, 2015 0:14:24 GMT -5
We always have been, haven't we? They started out as a 90s twist on 60s music. I got into them partly because I thought music from that era was orders of magnitude better than what was popular in my own time but still needed something with an attitude. I was nostalgic for a decade that ended 12 years before I was born.
As for the idea of holding on to them and hoping for any glimpse of when they were better, no. I never felt like I was doing that. If they'd never made those first 2 of 3 albums and we just had what they've made since, it wouldn't change anything for me. I genuinely love NGHFB's music for what it is because Noel will probably always have whatever it is that speaks to me on a very deep level. Maybe people still listening to Beady Eye are doing that, but then maybe they hear something in those records I don't.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 22, 2015 13:05:45 GMT -5
To me it's almost certain that making Kylo Ren a whiny bitch was intentional. They had to be well aware of how Anakin was received in the prequels, so to go in this direction anyway tells me we'll be seeing a very good reason for it in the next film. I hope so, anyway.
But as I said in the other thread ... I agree with Kevin Smith that it doesn't really make sense to be disappointed with Anakin's portrayal in the prequels because a ruthless dictator type would start as a whiny teenager. I can certainly see how people wanted to go on thinking he always had strong personal attributes, but Star Wars has always been about good vs evil as an internal struggle. I just wish he'd been given better dialogue.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 20, 2015 18:02:10 GMT -5
Also, I still haven't figured out if this is titled as Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens or just Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Why would JJ drop the Episode VII bit? They have to know the fans are going to refer to it like that anyway. In the crawl it says episode vll even though its missing on the posters. Good. I couldn't remember if it was in the crawl or not. If it hadn't been, I was wondering if JJ considered this to be technically a work of fan fiction since Lucas's original concepts for these episodes aren't being used.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 23:22:53 GMT -5
Also why was Kylo Ren really not great with his lightsaber? Should've literally killed Finn instantly with his abilities surely??? Conversely, Cinemassacre pointed out another question ... how was a former stormtrooper able to take not just any lightsaber but Anakin and Luke's and use it proficiently straight away?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 19:43:35 GMT -5
so han solo dies? is it at least done well? harrison ford is a miserable bastard nowadays (if thats why hes been killed off) Depends ... there's no denying it was predictable, for one. And it wasn't a situation you'd think Han would be enough of a sap to fall into. However, I think Harrison Ford did well at getting across that Han was overconfident in knowing his son and wanting to turn him back to the light side. I think the reason for it was Harrison Ford always wanted Han to die to begin with; he wanted to die in RotJ because he felt the character should die for a cause. Which he kind of does in this movie.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 17:40:35 GMT -5
How the seven Star Wars movies parallel the seven Oasis albums:
DM/Ep4: A highly ambitious creator, influenced by and obsessed with legends of a bygone era and possessing a strong work ethic with a legendary god complex storms out of the gate with a bold game changing opus. It's a boom or bust effort, and in spite of its roots in a genre no one thought was profitable anymore, it soars. People line up for it in droves, making it a decade defining event and smashing previous records.
WTSMG/Ep5: The second installment sees the franchise on top of the world and exceeds expectations, arguably at the top of its form. Iconic cultural moments abound.
BHN/Ep6: A bloated cocaine fueled mess that suffered from being too big for itself to handle, but hey it's Oasis/Star Wars, so it still comes out as pretty good.
SOTSOG/Ep1: Boring and flaccid. A bitter and sobering message that the spirit of the original three is dead. The true believers are left to enjoy what good it does offer, but the world moves on.
HC/Ep2: Anyone hoping that the fourth installment was rock bottom is further jaded. An onslaught of terrible lines and poorly received efforts by new cast members turn casual fans further away and make hardcores want to forget it ever existed.
DBTT/Ep3: In a word, satisfying. At least in comparison with the previous two. Some might have hated BHN/Ep6 enough to let this take the #3 spot at the time of its release, but the majority still agrees it's not near as good as any in the original trilogy.
DOYS/Ep7: Clearly the previous three don't hold a candle to it. Whether it deserves to be #3 or #4 might be up for debate.
b-sides/expanded universe: Through it all, some of the best (and worst) moments have been tucked away from the main attractions and known mostly to diehard fans.
I admit that's pretty harsh on SOTSOG. And the DOYS/Ep7 comparison isn't perfect, because Ep7 outshines the three before it a lot more than DOYS. Also DOYS did anything but rebuild from a previous formula. But this was fun to try.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 15:20:37 GMT -5
Personally, I never really sat down and watched any Star Wars movies until my mid twenties and I watched them in order of 1-6. I enjoyed all of them at the time and thought the prequels were underrated though I thought Jar Jar was too much of a kiddie character. But let's just say I watched the original trilogy this week to prepare for Awakens and didn't bother with the prequels.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 2:29:07 GMT -5
I'd rate the films right now as this: Empire Strikes Back A New Hope The Force Awakens Return of the Jedi Revenge of the Sith The Phantom Menance Attack of the Clones Depending on the day, I might flip ESP and ANH, but otherwise this is how I feel as well. Same.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 2:26:16 GMT -5
Thanks, I was thinking we needed a spoiler thread. Here's what I was about to post in the other one:
After the heat the prequels got (not saying this to defend the prequels, that isn't at all my point) over Anakin being a whiny kid/teenager/young adult and ruining Vader's persona, it's interesting how they took Kylo and got right into showing him as weak and insecure. To me, that's a pretty bold move, if he's going to be the main antagonist for at least the next film.
Again, I'm not defending the prequels, but I agree with what I saw Kevin Smith saying, that you shouldn't have expected anything else because a brutal tyrant like Darth Vader would start as a whiny teenager. I applaud them for continuing the narrative of Anakin's internal struggles with this new character. And I suspect Episode 8 will get heavy on philosophical discussion, as Episode 5 did.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 1:17:25 GMT -5
Smiths Stone Roses Chemical Brothers Paul Weller/the Jam/Style Council Already liked the Verve, but I think the association with Oasis made me buy Urban Hymns Primal Scream Sex Pistols Cast New Order Manic Street Preachers Suede Charlatans Molly Half Head Arctic Monkeys Death in Vegas Jasmine Minks
Basically half my music exploration mid-teens to early 20s was checking out anything mentioned in the same breath as the Gallaghers.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 18, 2015 0:05:42 GMT -5
Snoke was a little too Lord of The Rings. That's gonna take a little adjustment time. I had a different idea in my mind. Other than Snoke, how was it? Better than the prequels at least? What about Episode 6? I'm ready to promise anyone that it was better than the prequels. RotJ, I'm sure there are at least a few debates to come about that, but if you hated the Empire being defeated by Ewoks, I don't see much chance you'll rank this one lower.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 17, 2015 22:47:29 GMT -5
As others have said, I don't want to say too much and end up giving anything away, but I loved it. I know the series is in capable hands now.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 15, 2015 22:39:11 GMT -5
Twitter.
Receive a million dollars or become adroit at reading?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 14, 2015 18:47:07 GMT -5
Betrayed by a friend. Easier to shake it off as them having problems of their own and not feel like there's anything wrong with me.
Beady Eye double album of experimental music or NGHFB Christmas album?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 13, 2015 21:49:35 GMT -5
Stranded after a shipwreck, because there would probably be more relevant supplies on board and I'd have a better chance of fixing the boat or making use of it. Although I'm not sure, because a plane might be easier for rescuers to find and I'm not exactly feral to begin with.
Skydiving, easy ... safer and probably 1000x more fun.
Meet Noel or meet Liam?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 12, 2015 22:20:09 GMT -5
The Liam song. I didn't mind when Weller, Chemical Brothers, or the Stones got their chocolate in rap's peanut butter (hell, I listen to Beck) so it wouldn't be that bad. If nothing else it would be funny.
Time travel or mind control?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 12, 2015 13:24:51 GMT -5
I've actually been around sporadically since 2004-ish. Had a couple of accounts here before, but I forgot the passwords. LOL.
Pretty sure I was on oasisforum.com first, and oasisinet before that. I either came here because I heard it was a good forum, or I came here looking for bootlegs.
Anyone else remember oasiscentral? I set up my first regular email account there.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 12, 2015 1:22:32 GMT -5
Date many people. I used to think I had to get married and have kids because I won't have any close family still living when I get old, but I don't think I'll ever have feelings for someone that long.
Try to warn everyone about a secret colonization plot by a race of space aliens or cooperate in exchange for amnesty?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 10, 2015 3:11:05 GMT -5
Rob a bank.
Live out your most forbidden sexual fantasy and have everyone in your life know about it or give up all sexual activity for the next eight years?
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Dec 3, 2015 1:25:30 GMT -5
I don't remember the live versions that well, but the album version sounds like something you'd hear on the menu screen for a Super NES first-person shooter game in 1994. That isn't so bad necessarily, but it needed to be the backing for something with better lyrics. As it is you get slapdash lyrics over a song that just doesn't seem to go anywhere.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Nov 30, 2015 21:59:39 GMT -5
Although I love Bohemian Rhapsody and Tie Your Mother Down and I at least like most of Queen's songs, I'm not a huge fan of Queen and when I had to sit through Freddie Mercury's Barcelona performance with Montserrat Caballe and all I could think was 'Jesus Christ, end this now.' I had a bitch of an ingrown nail on my big toe and I couldn't figure out which was more painful. So from that experience I think I can sympathize with someone who hates Bohemian Rhapsody.
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Nov 25, 2015 16:12:59 GMT -5
Constantly bored.
Go skydiving or go deep sea diving?
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