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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jun 26, 2022 17:31:39 GMT -5
Anyone know where I can see the jo whiley interview? its on the end of this after his set
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 6:31:24 GMT -5
I'm an Oasis fan so have no interest in team liam/noel rubbish... I don't like the solo songs he played last night, simple as that. You admitted your bias at the start of the post. you're wrong. Bias means to be predisposed to being pro or anti something.
As stated, I'm an oasis fan, so I'm actually biased towards liking Noel solo tunes. I think 'Let The Lord Shine a Light' and 'Simple Game of Genius' are two of the best things he's ever done/written, I've even got a soft spot for 'Leave My Guitar Alone'...
I just don't like the repeated phrase numbers with no chorus - they don't work as grooves, they don't work as 'cutting edge', they don't make Noel seem contemporary, they don't spotlight his talent, (which is SONG writing). they just don't work (for me).
I think the bottom line is he is doing music his missus likes and Liam is doing music Debbie likes
So it should more be a question of 'team sara' v 'team debbie'
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Post by bt95 on Jun 27, 2022 8:36:06 GMT -5
You admitted your bias at the start of the post. you're wrong. Bias means to be predisposed to being pro or anti something.
As stated, I'm an oasis fan, so I'm actually biased towards liking Noel solo tunes. I think 'Let The Lord Shine a Light' and 'Simple Game of Genius' are two of the best things he's ever done/written, I've even got a soft spot for 'Leave My Guitar Alone'...
I just don't like the repeated phrase numbers with no chorus - they don't work as grooves, they don't work as 'cutting edge', they don't make Noel seem contemporary, they don't spotlight his talent, (which is SONG writing). they just don't work (for me).
I think the bottom line is he is doing music his missus likes and Liam is doing music Debbie likes
So it should more be a question of 'team sara' v 'team debbie' Okay so you don't like those songs - which is your bias. I do like those songs, which is my bias! But I have to say, if you're picking apart the solo songs he played on Saturday, then your complaint doesn't stand up? Fort Knox is an instrumental, obviously, but Holy Mountain, IABW and She Taught Me How To Fly all have very clearly defined structure and choruses. The only one of the songs he played that matches your description is Black Star Dancing. I think they're both doing tunes they each like and want to do mate and we're very lucky we get to see both
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Post by bt95 on Jun 27, 2022 10:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by RUBIKON on Jun 27, 2022 11:28:46 GMT -5
End of the day, it’s a tour to promote his best of. What do you expect him to play to a festival crowd, Alone on The Rope or Idlers Dream?
Set worked well for me. Made total sense
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 27, 2022 11:58:26 GMT -5
Don’t know what all the fuss is about. He was fine, the crowd reaction was fine. Strangely I enjoyed his solo stuff much more than I thought I would, those songs are built for Noel and it shows. I’m not really interested in hearing him sing Stop Crying Your Heart Out or Whatever. Could have done with Everybody’s on The Run.
We’re On Our Way Now is utterly appalling.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 27, 2022 14:17:12 GMT -5
I think they're both doing tunes they each like and want to do mate and we're very lucky we get to see both
Really all that needs to be said. Shouldn't take these times for granted. Two years ago no one knew when big live shows were even going to be possible again. Now you're getting a beautiful summer of music over there and both Gallaghers doing their thing (the different ways that they do.) Lucky is the word.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 27, 2022 15:01:22 GMT -5
I think they're both doing tunes they each like and want to do mate and we're very lucky we get to see both
Really all that needs to be said. Shouldn't take these times for granted. Two years ago no one knew when big live shows were even going to be possible again. Now you're getting a beautiful summer of music over there and both Gallaghers doing their thing (the different ways that they do.) Lucky is the word.
Noel's done his mini tour, and we'll get a full one next year. I imagine LG will do a UK tour next year too so they really could both be at it again. I've managed to get a pretty special gig in at Knebworth, and see NG in a beuatiful setting (last week at Halifax) in the space of 2 1/2 weeks. I have no complaints. The set.... it was what it was. But as Noel said, he did the first bit for him and the 2nd half for the fans. And those Oasis songs go down brilliantly with festival crowds. He's said next year he'll mix it up so let's hope he does. This tour only happened because of COVID - get the band a few quid, get them playing again and build up to doing Glasto as he was meant to do in 2020.
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Post by carlober on Jun 27, 2022 15:30:36 GMT -5
I've just watched the Glastonbury set. It was very good... the band is tight and in top form. Sure, it's the same, old as fuck setlist but it works well in this context. I bet casual listeners and festival goers loved it. SCYHO is still a highlight for me, this arrangement is great. Let's hear more from Jess on backing vocals... she's definitely underused in most songs. And about What a Life... that's still a phenomenal live tune even ten years later.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 28, 2022 2:12:49 GMT -5
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Looks like he was having fun...
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 28, 2022 4:02:49 GMT -5
Don’t know what all the fuss is about. He was fine, the crowd reaction was fine. Strangely I enjoyed his solo stuff much more than I thought I would, those songs are built for Noel and it shows. I’m not really interested in hearing him sing Stop Crying Your Heart Out or Whatever. Could have done with Everybody’s on The Run. We’re On Our Way Now is utterly appalling. Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time...
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Post by bt95 on Jun 28, 2022 6:10:34 GMT -5
Don’t know what all the fuss is about. He was fine, the crowd reaction was fine. Strangely I enjoyed his solo stuff much more than I thought I would, those songs are built for Noel and it shows. I’m not really interested in hearing him sing Stop Crying Your Heart Out or Whatever. Could have done with Everybody’s on The Run. We’re On Our Way Now is utterly appalling. Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time... He was initially booked for the same slot in 2020. You really need to stop because you don't have a clue mate.
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Post by megyesitomate on Jun 28, 2022 6:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 28, 2022 12:23:20 GMT -5
I wish the full Glastonbury gig was on YouTube instead of just one or two songs.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 28, 2022 13:16:04 GMT -5
Don’t know what all the fuss is about. He was fine, the crowd reaction was fine. Strangely I enjoyed his solo stuff much more than I thought I would, those songs are built for Noel and it shows. I’m not really interested in hearing him sing Stop Crying Your Heart Out or Whatever. Could have done with Everybody’s on The Run. We’re On Our Way Now is utterly appalling. Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time... He'll be there as long as he keeps doing the Oasis tunes, so forever, I assume Not many people that can give you that run of 5-6 anthems one after the other, it's perfect for a casual crowd
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 28, 2022 14:05:05 GMT -5
Don’t know what all the fuss is about. He was fine, the crowd reaction was fine. Strangely I enjoyed his solo stuff much more than I thought I would, those songs are built for Noel and it shows. I’m not really interested in hearing him sing Stop Crying Your Heart Out or Whatever. Could have done with Everybody’s on The Run. We’re On Our Way Now is utterly appalling. Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time... Oh Noel would definitely get that slot in any other year. He is perfectly capable of it and proved to be so on Saturday. He will no doubt go on to headline the festival although that will require some further thought on the setlist. It also wasn't anywhere near as busy as it could have been for Macca.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 28, 2022 14:41:25 GMT -5
Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time... Oh Noel would definitely get that slot in any other year. He is perfectly capable of it and proved to be so on Saturday. He will no doubt go on to headline the festival although that will require some further thought on the setlist. It also wasn't anywhere near as busy as it could have been for Macca. Who knows. Maybe he headlines next year given he has a new album out in spring with likely “throwback” feel singles.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 28, 2022 14:43:03 GMT -5
Don’t know what all the fuss is about. He was fine, the crowd reaction was fine. Strangely I enjoyed his solo stuff much more than I thought I would, those songs are built for Noel and it shows. I’m not really interested in hearing him sing Stop Crying Your Heart Out or Whatever. Could have done with Everybody’s on The Run. We’re On Our Way Now is utterly appalling. Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time... Which bands or artists really went all out wild random songs, guests and covers? We know Macca already but he’s already a GOAT.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 28, 2022 16:43:20 GMT -5
Let's not fool ourselves, Glastonbury was so weak this year. He was playing on main stage - pyramid stage, he was playing on saturday, he was playing before Paul who had one of the biggest audiences ever and for sure many of them came before to tako their position. If festival had strong setlist like some years before, Noel wouldn't get that time and stage. It was his big chance and he played good gig, like it was any other gig. But, he missed opportunity. Does he gives a fuck? Probably not. But I also give less and less fuck about his shows and I guess many people too. So many artists this year were biblical and gave their best at Glasto, it was pleasure to watch plus also had many guest appearances, played covers, songs they never did before or didn't play for long time... Oh Noel would definitely get that slot in any other year. He is perfectly capable of it and proved to be so on Saturday. He will no doubt go on to headline the festival although that will require some further thought on the setlist. It also wasn't anywhere near as busy as it could have been for Macca. tbf I don't think Noel will ever go on to headline Glasto again, barring an Oasis reunion that I just don't see happening. That slot is the best he could hope for - and he did get it in 2020. And he obviously returned to that same slot as Macca did for his headline one. But that was the first time he's played it solo remember. Liam has already done it twice solo. And no, I don't see Liam headlining it either.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 28, 2022 16:45:21 GMT -5
Oh Noel would definitely get that slot in any other year. He is perfectly capable of it and proved to be so on Saturday. He will no doubt go on to headline the festival although that will require some further thought on the setlist. It also wasn't anywhere near as busy as it could have been for Macca. Who knows. Maybe he headlines next year given he has a new album out in spring with likely “throwback” feel singles. There's very little chance Noel headlines Glasto, or Liam. Those days are gone. Money on Sam Fender on his next album tour. The Arctic Monkeys may come back for a third time next year if they're knocking about on that tour... but Noel and Liam. Nah. I just don't think they're Glasto headline material (whatever that is). It's got to have something about it, some reasoning if you get me. I don't see where the Gallaghers fit unless, of course, they are back together.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 28, 2022 16:53:37 GMT -5
Oh Noel would definitely get that slot in any other year. He is perfectly capable of it and proved to be so on Saturday. He will no doubt go on to headline the festival although that will require some further thought on the setlist. It also wasn't anywhere near as busy as it could have been for Macca. tbf I don't think Noel will ever go on to headline Glasto again, barring an Oasis reunion that I just don't see happening. That slot is the best he could hope for - and he did get it in 2020. And he obviously returned to that same slot as Macca did for his headline one. But that was the first time he's played it solo remember. Liam has already done it twice solo. And no, I don't see Liam headlining it either. Either but reasonable chance both will do it at some point. Florence and the Machine have done it, Kasabian, Artic Monkeys with only one album under their belts. The Verve have done it and played 12 songs ffs! Liam is probably the more likely at this point.
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 28, 2022 16:54:42 GMT -5
I'm completely out of touch but I'm surprised neither Noel or Liam headlined before Kendrick Lamar.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 28, 2022 16:57:16 GMT -5
Who knows. Maybe he headlines next year given he has a new album out in spring with likely “throwback” feel singles. There's very little chance Noel headlines Glasto, or Liam. Those days are gone. Money on Sam Fender on his next album tour. The Arctic Monkeys may come back for a third time next year if they're knocking about on that tour... but Noel and Liam. Nah. I just don't think they're Glasto headline material (whatever that is). It's got to have something about it, some reasoning if you get me. I don't see where the Gallaghers fit unless, of course, they are back together. Well they would fit by knocking out 16-18 absolute bangers. That's the requirement for most.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 28, 2022 17:15:01 GMT -5
Who knows. Maybe he headlines next year given he has a new album out in spring with likely “throwback” feel singles. There's very little chance Noel headlines Glasto, or Liam. Those days are gone. Money on Sam Fender on his next album tour. The Arctic Monkeys may come back for a third time next year if they're knocking about on that tour... but Noel and Liam. Nah. I just don't think they're Glasto headline material (whatever that is). It's got to have something about it, some reasoning if you get me. I don't see where the Gallaghers fit unless, of course, they are back together. They'll also look at who can draw the big crowds. Liam is currently bringing in 160,000 over two nights, that sort of thing does count.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 28, 2022 17:26:55 GMT -5
I'm completely out of touch but I'm surprised neither Noel or Liam headlined before Kendrick Lamar.
Kendrick could hardly be any more culturally relevant at this moment, and even if you just want to be pragmatic about it, his sales blow both brothers away. (Even if you combine their sales on a worldwide level they still don’t touch Kendrick.) He won the Pulitzer Prize because they couldn't ignore the force of his writing. He's a vital artist of these times, the way Oasis was in theirs. Was certainly the right call to have him headline, which doesn't detract from Noel or Liam in the least.
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