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Post by themanwithnoname on Dec 7, 2017 7:51:52 GMT -5
I've been so delighted at how well Liam's comeback has gone. From seemingly dead and buried he's now getting the attention, acclaim and love he deserves.
My only worry is whether there's a danger this is a blip rather than the start of what I hope will be a hugely successful solo career with a string of great albums and amazing live shows played to sold out crowds.
So my question is - how should the next phase of the Liam resurrection play out to ensure the success of this album cycle is sustained in the long run?
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Post by northernsky on Dec 7, 2017 8:12:11 GMT -5
Yes it will be harder once the comeback glow fades. I think four things would help. 1) Truly great songs. At least a lead single as undeniable as WOG (or hopefully even better) to force the public to pay attention each time he’s back. 2) High profile public appearances in which he comes off well. Whether it’s a live performance that he nails vocally (like One Love) or funny clips that showcase his trademark humor (like the Apple cider vinegar video) or opportunities to humanize him and show his softer side (Gogglebox), all of these things show the public the parts of Liam we love and stop them from dismissing him as an idiot. 4) Not rushing a new album. After the AYW cycle closes out, Liam should all but disappear for a little while until the next album (yes even from Twitter.) This will give people time to miss him and then be truly excited for his next round.
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Post by jeffrey on Dec 7, 2017 10:32:16 GMT -5
This is a legitimate question. In my opinion, the short answer is no. Everything lined up for his solo debut the way things did for Oasis, albeit on a much smaller scale. The bombing, social media, Supersonic doc, etc. put him back in the public eye at a time people were yearning for a witty, relatable, genuine rock n’ roll star.
That being said, the resurrection of his voice is astonishing. For a new generation to hear his voice better than it’s been in 15 years was imperative. In addition, As You Were is a solid album. I actually think it’s better than WBTM song wise (not trying to start an argument). The colossal weapon in his arsenal, however, is in his live shows. I said it in a recent post, he has a charisma/magnetism that projects to fans and makes you feel like you get to take a piece of his spirit with you. That won’t leave these new/young fans who’ve never seen him before.
While I don’t believe it’s ultimately sustainable to this degree, I think it was paramount in reference to his legacy. Liam simultaneously burned out AND faded away... it was sad for true fans, but publicly it was embarrassing. His return was substantially helped by coincidental circumstances, but was executed in absolutely flawless fashion.
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Post by noliamno on Dec 7, 2017 10:43:58 GMT -5
I think, just like Noel, there is a market for Liam. He may not get the same run up that he did for this album, but it all depends on if he's willing to stay in the game without the white hot spotlight.
Who knows what the music business will be like next year, or in five years. If he's patient and puts out good records, there will be interest.
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Post by freddy838 on Dec 7, 2017 10:44:48 GMT -5
I think he will keep the bandwagon rolling by moving quite quickly onto album 2 and release it in 2019, especially if he works with Kurstin and Wyatt again. The only real obstacle to continuing his success is himself doing something daft again, or voice problems coming back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 10:51:45 GMT -5
I'm not going to underestimate him again, that's for sure. Now that he's had some success, I would imagine plenty of songwriters will be clamoring to write for him so we could theoretically get an even better second record.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 7, 2017 11:18:38 GMT -5
Yes it will be harder once the comeback glow fades. I think four things would help. 1) Truly great songs. At least a lead single as undeniable as WOG (or hopefully even better) to force the public to pay attention each time he’s back. 2) High profile public appearances in which he comes off well. Whether it’s a live performance that he nails vocally (like One Love) or funny clips that showcase his trademark humor (like the Apple cider vinegar video) or opportunities to humanize him and show his softer side (Gogglebox), all of these things show the public the parts of Liam we love and stop them from dismissing him as an idiot. 4) Not rushing a new album. After the AYW cycle closes out, Liam should all but disappear for a little while until the next album (yes even from Twitter.) This will give people time to miss him and then be truly excited for his next round. You know these points were also made in another thread about Noel. Some people called it “moving the goal posts” to justify success. I think you make a lot of sense and are basing it on track record with what we’ve seen from various artists over the years.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Dec 7, 2017 12:39:59 GMT -5
Yes it will be harder once the comeback glow fades. I think four things would help. 1) Truly great songs. At least a lead single as undeniable as WOG (or hopefully even better) to force the public to pay attention each time he’s back. 2) High profile public appearances in which he comes off well. Whether it’s a live performance that he nails vocally (like One Love) or funny clips that showcase his trademark humor (like the Apple cider vinegar video) or opportunities to humanize him and show his softer side (Gogglebox), all of these things show the public the parts of Liam we love and stop them from dismissing him as an idiot. 4) Not rushing a new album. After the AYW cycle closes out, Liam should all but disappear for a little while until the next album (yes even from Twitter.) This will give people time to miss him and then be truly excited for his next round. isnt that only three things? without all 4 he's bound to fail... 1 & 2 are kinda obvious, but im not sure i agree with 4 (a.k.a 3). he might do better to just keep going and solidifying/expanding his new fan base, while the iron is hot. i think his success from this cycle will dip a little (just a little), but he should be able to maintain his comeback.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Dec 7, 2017 12:46:29 GMT -5
Liam has a lot of options right now. He could go with other co-producers and co-writers, he could experiment a little (doubt that tough), or he could try to replicate the success of AYW. Keep in mind that the Liam-penned songs on AYW were his output of about four years - he can write well if he doesn't rush it. If he goes for another AYW approach in 2019 or 2020 I don't see why he wouldn't be successfull again. People are liking him again right now, he just needs to lead with something that's not Bring the Light.
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Post by mancraider on Dec 7, 2017 13:00:52 GMT -5
No doubt he'll go straight into second album after big gigs next summer. Strike while the irons hot etc.
I'd like to see him try something with a modern twist. A Grime flavoured crossover album maybe lol. Didn't Wiley have a meeting with him at Glastonbury to discuss ideas for working together? DHTBTW showed he's open to trying something a bit more up to date although whether he's willing to do a whole album like that is another matter.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Dec 7, 2017 13:24:54 GMT -5
I'd like to see Líam work with different songwriters, or, less commercially driven songwriters.....I don't need anymore For What It's Worth's or Wall of Cats.
Thanks.
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Post by mape on Dec 7, 2017 14:06:54 GMT -5
He shouldn't rush anything and at the same time he probably shouldn't wait to long so that he is forgotten. Would like to see him write an entire album as he has the talent to write some great songs if he puts his head to them.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 7, 2017 14:29:01 GMT -5
He shouldn't rush anything and at the same time he probably shouldn't wait to long so that he is forgotten. Would like to see him write an entire album as he has the talent to write some great songs if he puts his head to them. I think fall of 2019 sounds about right to me. Liam can finish up his big out door gigs next summer, rest up, start 2019 fresh and begin the follow up process. I kinda like the formula he used for AYW. Write as much as you can but if you hit a road bump, bring in help to round it off into a higher quality product.
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Post by northernsky on Dec 7, 2017 14:39:34 GMT -5
Yes it will be harder once the comeback glow fades. I think four things would help. 1) Truly great songs. At least a lead single as undeniable as WOG (or hopefully even better) to force the public to pay attention each time he’s back. 2) High profile public appearances in which he comes off well. Whether it’s a live performance that he nails vocally (like One Love) or funny clips that showcase his trademark humor (like the Apple cider vinegar video) or opportunities to humanize him and show his softer side (Gogglebox), all of these things show the public the parts of Liam we love and stop them from dismissing him as an idiot. 4) Not rushing a new album. After the AYW cycle closes out, Liam should all but disappear for a little while until the next album (yes even from Twitter.) This will give people time to miss him and then be truly excited for his next round. isnt that only three things? Ha true. Sorry, first thing in the morning...
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Post by themanwithnoname on Dec 7, 2017 14:41:59 GMT -5
While I agree it would be great to have a complete Liam-written album it's important to remember that this current success was made possible by the strength of Wall of Glass and, to a lesser extent, For What It's Worth.
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Post by ricardogce on Dec 7, 2017 15:26:07 GMT -5
While I agree it would be great to have a complete Liam-written album it's important to remember that this current success was made possible by the strength of Wall of Glass and, to a lesser extent, For What It's Worth. Yeah. I want him to write more because I think he has it in him to write some really great songs (as he has already shown), but I'd welcome him having assistance with the requisite two-three radio-friendly singles.
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Post by daviesh on Dec 7, 2017 17:14:32 GMT -5
Still no news on Eh La or Not for Sale.
Perhaps there will be an EP release next summer around the big gigs.
After this current tour Liam will deserve a break and to give his voice a rest.
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Post by The Escapist on Dec 7, 2017 17:27:29 GMT -5
I don't think he'll achieve As You Were numbers going forward, but I do think he's set up an extremely prosperous solo career for himself, which is excellent. Happy times.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 7, 2017 17:32:42 GMT -5
Still no news on Eh La or Not for Sale. Perhaps there will be an EP release next summer around the big gigs. After this current tour Liam will deserve a break and to give his voice a rest. Is Eh La as bad as they say? Did he play Not For Sale at all?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 17:36:52 GMT -5
Still no news on Eh La or Not for Sale. Perhaps there will be an EP release next summer around the big gigs. After this current tour Liam will deserve a break and to give his voice a rest. Is Eh La as bad as they say? Did he play Not For Sale at all? Eh La is clearly one of those things he probably came up with on the fly and decided to give it a spin. I think it´s shorter than Songbird. Nothing too special about it, it´s no Little James though, it´s not that level of bad. Not For Sale was never played.
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Post by daviesh on Dec 7, 2017 17:47:43 GMT -5
I have previously thought is Not for Sale the original title for the album? Who knows.
I have heard the live version of Eh La and it's a fine B-sides. As LG has spoken about releasing it I was hoping it would be part of an EP supporting some other bigger tunes.
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Post by wallofass on Dec 7, 2017 17:49:04 GMT -5
One thing i've realised from browsing this forum is most of you dont really have a clue and your predictions to do with both Gallaghers are usually very wrong.
I think the best thing he can do is get back in a studio ASAP and keep this ball rolling. The name is out there now, Liam Gallagher singing Oasis songs is something that will last a very long time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 17:50:58 GMT -5
Yes it will be harder once the comeback glow fades. I think four things would help. 1) Truly great songs. At least a lead single as undeniable as WOG (or hopefully even better) to force the public to pay attention each time he’s back. 2) High profile public appearances in which he comes off well. Whether it’s a live performance that he nails vocally (like One Love) or funny clips that showcase his trademark humor (like the Apple cider vinegar video) or opportunities to humanize him and show his softer side (Gogglebox), all of these things show the public the parts of Liam we love and stop them from dismissing him as an idiot. 4) Not rushing a new album. After the AYW cycle closes out, Liam should all but disappear for a little while until the next album (yes even from Twitter.) This will give people time to miss him and then be truly excited for his next round. 5) avoid cancelling/postponing three sold-out shows in three major cities in the u.s.
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Post by vespa on Dec 7, 2017 17:58:07 GMT -5
Liam carries the oasis spirit and fan base and for that he will always have big numbers in opening weeks
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Post by jxing on Dec 7, 2017 19:56:18 GMT -5
No doubt he'll go straight into second album after big gigs next summer. Strike while the irons hot etc. I'd like to see him try something with a modern twist. A Grime flavoured crossover album maybe lol. Didn't Wiley have a meeting with him at Glastonbury to discuss ideas for working together? DHTBTW showed he's open to trying something a bit more up to date although whether he's willing to do a whole album like that is another matter. I think he should definitely do some collaborations.. he's proven his success as a solo artist so he'll likely get some offers. It seems very likely that he will do something with grime and maybe something with Ashcroft or someone similar. I'd definitely like to see him step out his comfort zone. I think the biggest achievement is that he's realized that he can do it without Noel or oasis/beady eye... which if you think about the fact that he spent @20 years with basically the same band.. that's a huge obstacle to overcome. Also, he seems happy in his private life... that definitely helps. But, he does have a tendency to self destruct... that's still a huge concern of mine.
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