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Post by Adam on Jan 14, 2016 8:39:06 GMT -5
At this point it seems like a stretch, but it wouldn't surprise me if the reveal of Episode VIII is that Ren has fallen in love with Rey. Episode IX would then be Rey's love being the catalyst for Ren's redemption and the fall of the First Order. It may seem a little bizarre but the chemistry between Rey & Finn was one-sided, and Rey & Poe shared very little screen time (if any) in Episode VII so I can't see them being paired off together. They won't kill Ren without him being redeemed... He's a Skywalker / Solo afterall. But like I said, it's a pretty big stretch of the imagination. If Kylo gets redeemed at all it'll be like Vader. He will die and be at peace....maybe. Still time to grow Poe. All the reviews I've read and the people I talk to all raved about him in the movie and his general body of work elsewhere. Rian Johnson knows he's got an underused actor to work with. There is time to build up Poe and Rey. Especially since they are casting a new female lead to be paired up with Finn in episode XIII. I really hope they try and do something different with this trilogy and don't go down the same Vader-style route. Rey being Luke's daughter seems too predictable and I hope they can bring something different to the series.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 14, 2016 9:30:51 GMT -5
No he's a Solo. Big difference. Plus he's on the dark side. This saga will end with a Skywalker in control. And by Skywalker I mean someone who has that last name. But technically he's a Skywalker.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 14, 2016 9:55:50 GMT -5
No he's a Solo. Big difference. Plus he's on the dark side. This saga will end with a Skywalker in control. And by Skywalker I mean someone who has that last name. But technically he's a Skywalker. Semantics. The Skywalker name isn't gonna die because a guy named Ben Solo went bad. Gotta have someone named Skywalker running around outside Luke who could die in 8 or 9.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 14, 2016 11:19:45 GMT -5
I love these. The Rey/Ren one was interesting. I wouldnt have guessed it was filmed inside.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 14, 2016 11:21:31 GMT -5
But technically he's a Skywalker. Semantics. The Skywalker name isn't gonna die because a guy named Ben Solo went bad. Gotta have someone named Skywalker running around outside Luke who could die in 8 or 9. If Luke dies he'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jan 14, 2016 11:33:04 GMT -5
Any reason this film or it's cast isn't getting much in the way of Award Nominations?
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 14, 2016 11:47:59 GMT -5
Any reason this film or it's cast isn't getting much in the way of Award Nominations? The cast for a film like Star Wars almost never gets nominated. The film was nominated for a bunch of oscars in editing sound and visual effects.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 14, 2016 17:59:02 GMT -5
ok so in empire leia kisses luke and he thinks he well in only to find out in jedi its his sister maybe just maybe luke done a jedi miind trick on leia shagged her they had a kid,,rey but no one can ever find out about this so they both dump her on jakku if anything would awaken the force it would be incest cos lets face it lucas wrote about midichlorians AFTER he knew about the luke/leia kiss luke has midichlorian sperm and leia a midiclhorian womb THE FORCE AWAKENS yippee (joke btw i dont condone midichlorians in star wars)
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Jan 15, 2016 8:49:19 GMT -5
wut?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 15, 2016 11:42:19 GMT -5
So a deleted scene reveals that Maz Kanata does indeed wield the force. She uses it to drop a ceiling on stormtroopers under her castle.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 11:48:52 GMT -5
So a deleted scene reveals that Maz Kanata does indeed wield the force. She uses it to drop a ceiling on stormtroopers under her castle. Where did you read that? I've never heard of such things. Only the consistent on all fronts that she is not force sensitive. This goes back to 2-3 years ago to present.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 15, 2016 11:52:17 GMT -5
So a deleted scene reveals that Maz Kanata does indeed wield the force. She uses it to drop a ceiling on stormtroopers under her castle. Where did you read that? I've never heard of such things. Only the consistent on all fronts that she is not force sensitive. This goes back to 2-3 years ago to present. www.yahoo.com/movies/star-wars-force-awakens-deleted-124526915.html
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 11:56:47 GMT -5
Very open ended term "uses her powers". Why not say the force? I'm still in the camp she is not a force user. That's been her framework for a long long time now. Plus now Rey is with Luke and Maz is MIA. No need to have her anymore. She served her purpose. To get her back with Luke and Rey would feel forced in my opinion. No pun intended.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 15, 2016 12:03:44 GMT -5
Very open ended term "uses her powers". Why not say the force? I'm still in the camp she is not a force user. That's been her framework for a long long time now. Plus now Rey is with Luke and Maz is MIA. No need to have her anymore. She served her purpose. To get her back with Luke and Rey would feel forced in my opinion. No pun intended. I just don't agree. She plainly tells the audience that she knows the force. It may have been slightly vague, but this new knowledge pretty much confirms it to be the case. What other powers are we aware of in this universe that isn't force related? Maybe it was originally going to be that she'd have more of a role and then they decided not to use her in later movies. This makes her force abilities irrelevant to the plot hence why they cut the flashy scene.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 12:07:17 GMT -5
Very open ended term "uses her powers". Why not say the force? I'm still in the camp she is not a force user. That's been her framework for a long long time now. Plus now Rey is with Luke and Maz is MIA. No need to have her anymore. She served her purpose. To get her back with Luke and Rey would feel forced in my opinion. No pun intended. I just don't agree. She plainly tells the audience that she knows the force. It may have been slightly vague, but this new knowledge pretty much confirms it to be the case. What other powers are we aware of in this universe that isn't force related? Maybe it was originally going to be that she'd have more of a role and then they decided not to use her in later movies. This makes her force abilities irrelevant to the plot hence why they cut the flashy scene. Powers could be she used her blaster and knocked down a pillar supporting the ceiling. Tossed a grenade. who knows. If she was going to have a force moment, an attack on her bar and home would be the perfect time. If she doesn't use it then, what will make her use it? The flashback scene was cut because it too heavily implies Rey is Luke's daughter or related. It shows Vader and Luke fighting in Cloud City.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 15, 2016 12:21:18 GMT -5
I just don't agree. She plainly tells the audience that she knows the force. It may have been slightly vague, but this new knowledge pretty much confirms it to be the case. What other powers are we aware of in this universe that isn't force related? Maybe it was originally going to be that she'd have more of a role and then they decided not to use her in later movies. This makes her force abilities irrelevant to the plot hence why they cut the flashy scene. Powers could be she used her blaster and knocked down a pillar supporting the ceiling. Tossed a grenade. who knows. If she was going to have a force moment, an attack on her bar and home would be the perfect time. If she doesn't use it then, what will make her use it? The flashback scene was cut because it too heavily implies Rey is Luke's daughter or related. It shows Vader and Luke fighting in Cloud City. We really need to look at this in context. Do you honestly believe the guy meant a blaster or grenade? We have a Yoda-esque alien that claims to know the force. She keeps Jedi relics. She's been living for a thousand years. She knows Han Solo, Leia and Luke. And now details have emerged of a deleted scene in which she uses powers to collapse a ceiling. Why wouldn't she use the force immediately in the bar? Any number of reasons could be thought of. But as it appears, she does use it at some point in her bar/home. As it would seem by the description of the scene, it was used as an escape. It's clear she's not a Jedi as per her own words, but it's also clear that she is force sensitive.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 12:23:28 GMT -5
Powers could be she used her blaster and knocked down a pillar supporting the ceiling. Tossed a grenade. who knows. If she was going to have a force moment, an attack on her bar and home would be the perfect time. If she doesn't use it then, what will make her use it? The flashback scene was cut because it too heavily implies Rey is Luke's daughter or related. It shows Vader and Luke fighting in Cloud City. We really need to look at this in context. Do you honestly believe the guy meant a blaster or grenade? We have a Yoda-esque alien that claims to know the force. She keeps Jedi relics. She's been living for a thousand years. She knows Han Solo, Leia and Luke. And now details have emerged of a deleted scene in which she uses powers to collapse a ceiling. Why wouldn't she use the force immediately in the bar? Any number of reasons could be thought of. But as it appears, she does use it at some point in her bar/home. As it would seem by the description of the scene, it was used as an escape. It's clear she's not a Jedi as per her own words, but it's also clear that she is force sensitive. We shall see come May 2017. Abrams said he won't include deleted scenes that wouldn't eventually be accepted as canon. So that could be a big hint in the future. So for example, if she is never mentioned as having force like powers in 8 and 9, then they won't include that potential deleted scene on the DVD because of what it implies and conflicts with the star wars canon.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 15, 2016 12:25:04 GMT -5
"It was obviously a wildly intentional thing that we go backwards, in some ways, to go forwards in the important ways," Abrams said. "Ultimately the structure of Star Wars itself is as classic and tried and true as you can get."
JJ Abrams is the Noel Gallagher of film.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 15, 2016 12:53:01 GMT -5
Leia is force sensitive but not a Jedi. So maybe that's what Maz is.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 13:10:44 GMT -5
Leia is force sensitive but not a Jedi. So maybe that's what Maz is. Why would Abrams and Disney allow the special effects guy to spill the beans on such info. If it was cut to save for a future reveal, why is he saying anything? They usually have all those people on lockdowns and NDAs.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 13:26:15 GMT -5
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Post by glider on Jan 15, 2016 13:27:50 GMT -5
Do you watch this show? It doesn't seem like the same amount of quality as the Clone Wars which was excellent in the last couple of seasons.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2016 13:29:53 GMT -5
Do you watch this show? It doesn't seem like the same amount of quality as the Clone Wars which was excellent in the last couple of seasons. I do and it's very very good. It's the first Star Wars property kicked off since Disney bought the rights. It was planned to tie into the new saga in minor ways over time.
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Post by glider on Jan 15, 2016 13:32:45 GMT -5
Do you watch this show? It doesn't seem like the same amount of quality as the Clone Wars which was excellent in the last couple of seasons. I do and it's very very good. It's the first Star Wars property kicked off since Disney bought the rights. It was planned to tie into the new saga in minor ways over time. I'll have to check it out proper then, since it's gotten well praise. Same team from TCW as well I believe, but it was probably the character designs that turned me off at first. Looked abit too cartoony, like the Disney Infinity character models.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 15, 2016 16:33:16 GMT -5
I do and it's very very good. It's the first Star Wars property kicked off since Disney bought the rights. It was planned to tie into the new saga in minor ways over time. I'll have to check it out proper then, since it's gotten well praise. Same team from TCW as well I believe, but it was probably the character designs that turned me off at first. Looked abit too cartoony, like the Disney Infinity character models. The main character looks like a generic Alladin.
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