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Post by craigflash on Aug 22, 2012 14:54:27 GMT -5
To this forum! I used to love coming on here to read rumours,stories,opinions etc but now it is just a free for all! Not in a good way though, it would be nice to come on and see the Liam fans and neutrals giving opinions fact n all that on the Beady Eye part and the Noel fans and neutrals on the HFB part! As soon as something is mentioned about Liam,BOOM 'Noel is better' don't know if it's the same on the Noel pages because it doesn't interest me, it's unfair on people who want to discuss certain topics, if you haven't got anything productive to say on the matter just leave it, it's just leaves bad reading all the negativity! The Noel fans are obviously always going to back Noel but do it on the Noel pages, save as for Liam fans like myself I would never go on the HFB pages to slate him, what would be the point! Would be nice to see some decent topics been brought up for discussion without all the hate and narrow minded ness!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 15:04:59 GMT -5
Agree with you man the Olympic thread was the first good thread on here for a while and since then the whole things has been a free-for-all like you said
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Post by andycoleoasis on Aug 22, 2012 15:26:35 GMT -5
To this forum! I used to love coming on here to read rumours,stories,opinions etc but now it is just a free for all! Not in a good way though, it would be nice to come on and see the Liam fans and neutrals giving opinions fact n all that on the Beady Eye part and the Noel fans and neutrals on the HFB part! As soon as something is mentioned about Liam,BOOM 'Noel is better' don't know if it's the same on the Noel pages because it doesn't interest me, it's unfair on people who want to discuss certain topics, if you haven't got anything productive to say on the matter just leave it, it's just leaves bad reading all the negativity! The Noel fans are obviously always going to back Noel but do it on the Noel pages, save as for Liam fans like myself I would never go on the HFB pages to slate him, what would be the point! Would be nice to see some decent topics been brought up for discussion without all the hate and narrow minded ness! best post on here in a long time, used to be an enjoyable forum......now so many trolls
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 22, 2012 15:40:59 GMT -5
I post this in good sense
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Post by craigflash on Aug 22, 2012 15:45:16 GMT -5
To this forum! I used to love coming on here to read rumours,stories,opinions etc but now it is just a free for all! Not in a good way though, it would be nice to come on and see the Liam fans and neutrals giving opinions fact n all that on the Beady Eye part and the Noel fans and neutrals on the HFB part! As soon as something is mentioned about Liam,BOOM 'Noel is better' don't know if it's the same on the Noel pages because it doesn't interest me, it's unfair on people who want to discuss certain topics, if you haven't got anything productive to say on the matter just leave it, it's just leaves bad reading all the negativity! The Noel fans are obviously always going to back Noel but do it on the Noel pages, save as for Liam fans like myself I would never go on the HFB pages to slate him, what would be the point! Would be nice to see some decent topics been brought up for discussion without all the hate and narrow minded ness! best post on here in a long time, used to be an enjoyable forum......now so many trolls Just don't understand all the hate, together they brought us the best times of our lives, now they have gone there separate ways if you follow one more than the other discuss what is happening in their career, not as soon as Liam does a performance 'NOEL WOULD SOUND BETTER' 'HE SHOULDNT BE SINGING THOSE SONGS' give the bloke a rest, let the people who have something productive to say discuss it! I even read one post after Beady Eye sang wonderwall and a guy was moaning that the drums didn't sound in tune! Haha! Unbelievable!!
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Post by Rolo on Aug 22, 2012 15:55:38 GMT -5
Well said mate.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 22, 2012 16:06:56 GMT -5
best post on here in a long time, used to be an enjoyable forum......now so many trolls Just don't understand all the hate, together they brought us the best times of our lives, now they have gone there separate ways if you follow one more than the other discuss what is happening in their career, not as soon as Liam does a performance 'NOEL WOULD SOUND BETTER' 'HE SHOULDNT BE SINGING THOSE SONGS' give the bloke a rest, let the people who have something productive to say discuss it! I even read one post after Beady Eye sang wonderwall and a guy was moaning that the drums didn't sound in tune! Haha! Unbelievable!! so right man.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 22, 2012 16:23:15 GMT -5
Well, I'm sure none of this would've happened had Liam and Noel not continued on the feud.
How do you expect Noel fans to react when Liam says stuff like "High flying smurfs" and Noel calls BDI an Oasis tribute band?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 16:29:22 GMT -5
best post on here in a long time, used to be an enjoyable forum......now so many trolls Just don't understand all the hate, together they brought us the best times of our lives, now they have gone there separate ways if you follow one more than the other discuss what is happening in their career, not as soon as Liam does a performance 'NOEL WOULD SOUND BETTER' 'HE SHOULDNT BE SINGING THOSE SONGS' give the bloke a rest, let the people who have something productive to say discuss it! I even read one post after Beady Eye sang wonderwall and a guy was moaning that the drums didn't sound in tune! Haha! Unbelievable!! Yeh people definitely need to ease off on Liam a bit, sure his voice isn't always great now and he isn't a natural songwriter but he's a great front, and people should remember him not for his performances at the end of oasis but him at his best, early oasis he had an amazing voice. He should be respected because like it or not he is an icon of a generation in his own right he was a big part in oasis- which is what this forums supposed to be about...
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Post by eva on Aug 22, 2012 16:36:08 GMT -5
Well, I'm sure none of this would've happened had Liam and Noel not continued on the feud. How do you expect Noel fans to react when Liam says stuff like "High flying smurfs" and Noel calls BDI an Oasis tribute band? that's just funny banter. you go with it, you laugh, and you moe on. you don't need to pick a fight over it. the problem is when people pick sides. I think it's fucking ridiculous. and to slate the other brother to prove your point and "defend" your side, is even more ridiculous
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Post by truefaith on Aug 22, 2012 16:42:10 GMT -5
Just don't understand all the hate, together they brought us the best times of our lives, now they have gone there separate ways if you follow one more than the other discuss what is happening in their career, not as soon as Liam does a performance 'NOEL WOULD SOUND BETTER' 'HE SHOULDNT BE SINGING THOSE SONGS' give the bloke a rest, let the people who have something productive to say discuss it! I even read one post after Beady Eye sang wonderwall and a guy was moaning that the drums didn't sound in tune! Haha! Unbelievable!! Yeh people definitely need to ease off on Liam a bit, sure his voice isn't always great now and he isn't a natural songwriter but he's a great front, and people should remember him not for his performances at the end of oasis but him at his best, early oasis he had an amazing voice. He should be respected because like it or not he is an icon of a generation in his own right he was a big part in oasis- which is what this forums supposed to be about... And they have to stop idealize Noel and direspect everything about Liam, like he has no part at all in Oasis, like oasis songs aren't his too. And slate BDI every chance they got when BDI is enterly formed of former Oasis members. I mean WTF is that.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 22, 2012 18:47:04 GMT -5
The problem with this forum is that there's too much simple generalization for members. You're a "Noel fan" or a "Liam fan" or whatever. The second that shit stops is the second that this forum will be better.
And right now, it's not stopping because you got people in this thread already stirring up the same old bullshit, "Noel people said this..blah, blah, blah". When people keep doing this, or people in the Noel section continually say that "Liam people say this", that is what has made this thing continue. Don't ask what happened and you're doing what happened in the same freaking thread.
The above posts is why this forum has gone to shit. The second that you generalize. If you're already thinking in terms of this is what "Liam people" or "Noel people" need to stop doing, then you're part of the problem. The fact that people use the terms, "Noel people" or "Liam people" or "zombies", instead of Oasis fans, show what's wrong with this forum. And I'm seeing it right now, the same mindless bullshit that has made good people leave this forum because they were tired of monotony or trying to prove that they were real fans.
Looking through the posts I haven't seen the term: "Oasis fan" used once. It's not what "Noel people" or "Liam people" have to do, it's what Oasis fans have to do. That tells you all you need to know.
This forum used to be great when Oasis were together and you could have an opinion without being called a "Noel fanboy", or a "Liam fanboy", or a "zombie"....when you were just an Oasis fan. When I joined this forum I used to say that if Liam was ever wrong, I'd say it and if Noel was ever wrong, I'd say it. And I have done both for the past four years. But it's amazing seeing members who have years of posting history being defined, scrutinized, and demonize for just being more interested in the other Gallagher's side project.
In the end, very few people who are more interested in Liam's side project...idolize Liam and hate everything Noel does, and the same goes for people who like Noel's side project a bit more. The second this type of thinking leaves, the second we begin to see the members on here as a shades of grey, instead of black and white, is the second this forum will be better.
That's what happened.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 22, 2012 18:55:17 GMT -5
Comparisons will be made to both in each section, no matter what. That's to be expected. And that's fair. But, yes, there are a certain few who create an obvious division......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 19:18:28 GMT -5
The real downfall came along with the downfall of the band that brought us here in the first place. When Oasis split, so did the forum. I suppose it is human nature to take a side to some degree, but people are arguing over the 2 brothers as though the argument matters in someway.
There are a lot more important things in life than this forum. It is a nice break from my normal life, but I don't really take too much seriously on here. No one ever should.
For the record, I am now going to be a Guigsy fanboy!
Suck it.
Cheers!
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Post by nataliemckinney on Aug 22, 2012 20:57:23 GMT -5
For the record, I am now going to be a Guigsy fanboy! Suck it. Bonehead forever. You suck it. Silly, isn't it??
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Post by GIMH on Aug 23, 2012 1:03:26 GMT -5
It has become a hard read around here at times. I thought the period around Noel's album being released would be the nadir but the Olympic Ceremony and all that stuff was worse.
For me, Liam is my hero, the greatest rock star of all-time and the number one vocalist. Noel is the chief and a sublime songwriter, the best of his generation. There are songs and versions and stuff that I prefer by one or the other but it doesn't make me feel the need to shit on the other stuff. I don't really understand it.
"Love one another..."
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Post by ss on Aug 23, 2012 2:09:09 GMT -5
truefaith, gdforever, spaneli, theyknowwhatimean, leak4ever, (tomlivesforever)
Just try and be constructive or remove your account and stay away for a while. You'll enjoy it once you try it.
You lot ruin this place by posting the same thing over and over/nitpicking on every single word/going into a discussion and trying to prove you are right every single time.... There is no wrong and no right. Get on with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 2:55:26 GMT -5
For me, Liam is my hero, the greatest rock star of all-time and the number one vocalist. Noel is the chief and a sublime songwriter, the best of his generation. There are songs and versions and stuff that I prefer by one or the other but it doesn't make me feel the need to shit on the other stuff. I don't really understand it. "Love one another..."
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Post by LlAM on Aug 23, 2012 3:45:36 GMT -5
truefaith, gdforever, spaneli, theyknowwhatimean, leak4ever, (tomlivesforever) Just try and be constructive or remove your account and stay away for a while. You'll enjoy it once you try it. You lot ruin this place by posting the same thing over and over/nitpicking on every single word/going into a discussion and trying to prove you are right every single time.... There is no wrong and no right. Get on with it. I totally agree. I used to enjoy this forum, but a select few seem to ruin the experience by nitpicking, bitchfighting and overanalyzing everything.
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 23, 2012 4:31:44 GMT -5
truefaith, gdforever, spaneli, theyknowwhatimean, leak4ever, (tomlivesforever) Just try and be constructive or remove your account and stay away for a while. You'll enjoy it once you try it. You lot ruin this place by posting the same thing over and over/nitpicking on every single word/going into a discussion and trying to prove you are right every single time.... There is no wrong and no right. Get on with it. you better change your name
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Aug 23, 2012 5:13:29 GMT -5
high flying smurfs, lol
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 5:50:26 GMT -5
I think the main probleme is that there is not a lot of active users around here, and most of them prefer Noel. Then, every time BDI is doing something, they start moaning about Liam's voice, about BDI songwritting, that Noel is God, Noel is Oasis etc, that Andy is a c*unt or whatever.
On the other hand, when I've arrived I've seen people including me called retard or stupid , for not liking some crappy live performance of HFB or not liking a commercial decision around Noel, and the minute someone said anything a little negative about Noel, the person get slated. So eventually, the user who prefers Liam have started to fight back at arrogant people like GD or spanelli, that's wat I've done.
Then, there is the fact that every Noel's fan isn't acting like an Oasis fan when they slate everything BDI does for no reason. And they're really hypocrite around that.
Noel sings bad at a show ? it doesn't matter, he's god. Liam sings bad at a show ? well 9 pages of Kermit the frog
Noel doing the x factor? Great exposure, so great news not at all selling out. BDI doing the olympics aka Oasis singer singing Oasis biggest hit? Morally wrong, how could they?
And then there's all this "Liam is a twat" nonsense, ignoring that Noel is one two sometimes. And all those "Andy is a tawt" just because Noel doesn't like him when poor Andy has never done anyting wrong.
Sorry, the world of Oasis fan you're dreaming will happen if everybody accepts that both side projects have flaws, that we can like some stuff ad critisize some stuff, but that in the end, we don't have to hate one or another because we prefer the other one.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Aug 23, 2012 6:14:10 GMT -5
monkeys can't sell bananas.
i'm Let It Bleed and i approve my message.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2012 6:20:43 GMT -5
truefaith, gdforever, spaneli, theyknowwhatimean, leak4ever, (tomlivesforever) Just try and be constructive or remove your account and stay away for a while. You'll enjoy it once you try it. You lot ruin this place by posting the same thing over and over/nitpicking on every single word/going into a discussion and trying to prove you are right every single time.... There is no wrong and no right. Get on with it. That's not helping is it by name dropping?... sure leak4ever is a troll and GD is on a never ending quest to be right but spaneli is an active member who looks at both sides of the argument and explains arguments well, like GD but less annoying so I don't see the problem with that. I don't think I say anything that bad either tbh, I prefer Liam's attitude and voice (on a good day) but prefer Noel's music... Nothing wrong with that
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Post by Master Wanker on Aug 23, 2012 6:22:47 GMT -5
There is something happening but you dont know what it is ,do you Mr. Jones? Penguins 2012!
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