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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 12:51:11 GMT -5
Whatever I say to Silence, you guys can just keep playpenning. That's exactly where it belongs.
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 23, 2012 13:15:55 GMT -5
i love that this original peace&love-thread turned into another noel and liam fight ;D
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Post by Rifles on Aug 23, 2012 13:16:23 GMT -5
If anyone can point out a better run Oasis forum with this amount of traffic I ll gladly go take some notes. I always welcome critics and take note of what they have to say. Remember change starts within. You could start by giving 1 or 2 of your most trusted mods the power to ban users. You clearly don't have enough time on your hands to take care of everything, so pass the power on to people you trust so this place can be cleaned up faster. If a user is seen as crossing into different sections and saying things just to piss people people off, they should be warned, and if they don't change their behavior they should be banned. If they come back under a different alias then the same system should apply. Is it frustrating? Yes. Should people be able to police themselves? Yes. Does the entire history of the human race show us that people are capable of such things? No. So put some better policies in place and make some things happen. There's too big of a divide and the few idiots that like to get a rise out of people are turning off the decent people that make this a site worth visiting. Why sit on your hands and do nothing different?
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 13:18:57 GMT -5
This isn't a fight. We try to point some problem like huge trolling in BDI section and the impossibility to criticize Noel without the noel army insulting you and you're all ignoring the probleme and calling people crazy. Really it's impossible to argu with you people...
I know I have big arguments sometimes but it's always with the same two users and I've started fighting back after being insulted many time for not liking commercial decision around Noel. I didn't start any of that.
Get rid of the BDI section and rename the forum Noelisgod4ever, it will be easier for you.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 23, 2012 13:37:15 GMT -5
If anyone can point out a better run Oasis forum with this amount of traffic I ll gladly go take some notes. I always welcome critics and take note of what they have to say. Remember change starts within. You could start by giving 1 or 2 of your most trusted mods the power to ban users. You clearly don't have enough time on your hands to take care of everything, so pass the power on to people you trust so this place can be cleaned up faster. If a user is seen as crossing into different sections and saying things just to piss people people off, they should be warned, and if they don't change their behavior they should be banned. If they come back under a different alias then the same system should apply. Is it frustrating? Yes. Should people be able to police themselves? Yes. Does the entire history of the human race show us that people are capable of such things? No. So put some better policies in place and make some things happen. There's too big of a divide and the few idiots that like to get a rise out of people are turning off the decent people that make this a site worth visiting. Why sit on your hands and do nothing different? Absolutely this. While me and Rifles haven't agreed on everything in the past I think this post shows why, if there was to be a new mod, it should be him.
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Post by Jim on Aug 23, 2012 13:38:07 GMT -5
Rifles has a point, give the mods more power to issue proper warnings, Eva and Mimmi need some proper back up.
Look at maybe some new mods, there are a few older ones that don't get involved as they don't even log on anymore. Jono even said deactivate his mod status as he isn't on here anymore. Obviously that would have to be carefully considered.
I think Truefaith had point about the amount of trolling going on in the Beady Eye section. There has been some amount of nonsense posted and by the same people. It doesn't happen anywhere near the same extent in the High Flying Birds sections.
I've been on here 8 years, I don't want stop coming on due to a certain number of people but I, and others are sick of it. To me, the forum I joined for my band is dying and it needs a serious shot in the arm to come back to life.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 23, 2012 13:41:03 GMT -5
Jim is another that should be considered, he's given a lot to the community over the years and is a top fella.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Aug 23, 2012 13:45:24 GMT -5
This isn't a fight. We try to point some problem like huge trolling in BDI section and the impossibility to criticize Noel without the noel army insulting you and you're all ignoring the probleme and calling people crazy. Really it's impossible to argu with you people... I know I have big arguments sometimes but it's always with the same two users and I've started fighting back after being insulted many time for not liking commercial decision around Noel. I didn't start any of that. Get rid of the BDI section and rename the forum Noelisgod4ever, it will be easier for you. RIght on the money... At this point, the forum has become so biased that even the Pmoderators have stopped being objective. Are they supposed to be immune from criticism? lol pathetic behavior all the way around. It's really up to Webby to decided what he wants to do. DOes he want to regulate this place, perhaps throw out the incompetent mods and assign new ones? And does he want to keep the last Oasis forum running or does he want to turn in into a Noel forum? Ball's on your court dude. you probably shouldn't be calling for more policing and reform considering you'll be the first forum member banned. ...just saying.
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 23, 2012 14:07:00 GMT -5
Can I be a mod?
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Post by downer on Aug 23, 2012 14:43:39 GMT -5
well, what happened to masterplan forum?? or maybe someone can create a beadyeye forum...
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Post by thewiseone on Aug 23, 2012 15:00:27 GMT -5
In life, you are born a child. You go to school, have arguments in the playground about whos the best Pokemon, or whos gets to play as the red power ranger, etc etc..
Then you grow up...
It seems that Live4ever has the maturity level of a playground and quite simply you all need to have a little word with yourself.
You know what I think, I think webm@ster should lock the entire forum for a month. An entire month of 0 posting = 0 arguing. It might give you people a chance to get of the computer go out and do some constructive activities in the real world instead of fighting these duels over broadband wires.
Theres a trend. spaneli, gdforever, deasy55 are always made out to be the 'Good Guys' and the Mods tend to side with them. Then you have your Silence Dogood's, truefaith's, leak4ever who are almost like the Live4ever Decepticons...
Why?
You are all being pathetic... spaneli always writes a 200 word in-depth report on how 'wrong' a 'trolls' one sentance post is.. Surely this must be classed as trolling?
gdforever has caused more de-railments than railway signalling faults & deasy55 will argue in one thread then retreat to another thread to slag off said 'troll' only for that member to follow suit and bam, the 'thoughts thread gets 3 pages of crap. Silence Dogood simply doesnt know when to give up and just seems to enjoy his battles and needs calm down (lol)
If you disagree, so be it. But just dont get caught up in an argument over the internet... its how we all go about everyday life.. Why do you find it so difficult?
Thats all I have to say on the matter. Im going away to enjoy life, I may return when Beady Eye release album 2, i might be ambitious and try again when Noels new DVD is out. With luck, this place will have improved...
Ciao!
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 15:12:51 GMT -5
Theres a trend. spaneli, gdforever, deasy55 are always made out to be the 'Good Guys' and the Mods tend to side with them. Then you have your Silence Dogood's, truefaith's, leak4ever who are almost like the Live4ever Decepticons... Why? You are all being pathetic... spaneli always writes a 200 word in-depth report on how 'wrong' a 'trolls' one sentance post is.. Surely this must be classed as trolling? gdforever has caused more de-railments than railway signalling faults & deasy55 will argue in one thread then retreat to another thread to slag off said 'troll' only for that member to follow suit and bam, the 'thoughts thread gets 3 pages of crap. Silence Dogood simply doesnt know when to give up and just seems to enjoy his battles and needs calm down (lol) finally someone says it. Good post.
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 23, 2012 15:14:43 GMT -5
^Well said. Could've done with more posters like him, shame how many nobheads argue for the sake of it.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 15:36:04 GMT -5
You are all being pathetic... spaneli always writes a 200 word in-depth report on how 'wrong' a 'trolls' one sentance post is.. Surely this must be classed as trolling? To be honest, if I'm trolling then ban me today. I think they're good people here. Mimmi, Eva, Jim, Cast, and a few others. But I tend to treat people with respect and as if I was speaking to them in person. The last time I was called out, I decided to be respectful and leave for 3 months, rather than hi-jack a thread and get into a shouting match. If I have a problem with a person, I tend to PM them, rather than call them out myself. I don't believe being an asshole is conducive to anything. So if people have a problem with the way I post, then fuck off, because I'm not changing. I'm not going to grovel and say, "Don't mention me. I'll change. Please, don't mention me." If I'm a good guy then okay, if I'm bad guy, then okay. I am who I am. And if Webby has a problem with it, then he can politely PM me, and tell me that soon I will be banned and I'll politely shove off. But until then, I'll continue to treat people with the respect that they deserve and post how I want to.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 15:45:28 GMT -5
You are all being pathetic... spaneli always writes a 200 word in-depth report on how 'wrong' a 'trolls' one sentance post is.. Surely this must be classed as trolling? To be honest, if I'm trolling then ban me today. I think they're good people here. Mimmi, Eva, Jim, Cast, and a few others. But I tend to treat people with respect and as if I was speaking to them in person. The last time I was called out, I decided to be respectful and leave for 3 months, rather than hi-jack a thread and get into a shouting match. If I have a problem with a person, I tend to PM them, rather than call them out myself. I don't believe being an asshole is conducive to anything. So if people have a problem with the way I post, then fuck off, because I'm not changing. I'm not going to grovel and say, "Don't mention me. I'll change. Please, don't mention me." If I'm a good guy then okay, if I'm bad guy, then okay. I am who I am. And if Webby has a problem with it, then he can politely PM me, and tell me that soon I will be banned and I'll politely shove off. But until then, I'll continue to treat people with the respect that they deserve and post how I want to. Just for the record, it's not because you don't insult someone that you're not insulting to them, if that means something in english. I mean even if you don't actully cal people stupid, you make a lot of post where you're very patronizing and very arrogant, and you spend a huge amount of time explaning people how "they're wrong in the way they're expressing something". You may think you are a respectfull guy but you're not really.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 15:51:29 GMT -5
To be honest, if I'm trolling then ban me today. I think they're good people here. Mimmi, Eva, Jim, Cast, and a few others. But I tend to treat people with respect and as if I was speaking to them in person. The last time I was called out, I decided to be respectful and leave for 3 months, rather than hi-jack a thread and get into a shouting match. If I have a problem with a person, I tend to PM them, rather than call them out myself. I don't believe being an asshole is conducive to anything. So if people have a problem with the way I post, then fuck off, because I'm not changing. I'm not going to grovel and say, "Don't mention me. I'll change. Please, don't mention me." If I'm a good guy then okay, if I'm bad guy, then okay. I am who I am. And if Webby has a problem with it, then he can politely PM me, and tell me that soon I will be banned and I'll politely shove off. But until then, I'll continue to treat people with the respect that they deserve and post how I want to. Just for the record, it's not because you don't insult someone that you're not insulting to them, if that means something in english. I mean even if you don't actully cal people stupid, you make a lot of post where you're very patronizing and very arrogant, and you spend a huge amount of time explaning people how "they're wrong in the way they're expressing something". You may think you are a respectfull guy but you're not really. If Webby has any problem with me then he politely PM me. Because I won't be changing anytime soon. I'm kind of tired being the politically correct guy and just moving on whenever someone wants to say something to me. Apparently, it makes people think that I'll just shove off again. Maybe LIB is right, maybe Rifles is correct, maybe me being nice...almost too nice does hurt me.
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Post by truefaith on Aug 23, 2012 15:54:29 GMT -5
Just for the record, it's not because you don't insult someone that you're not insulting to them, if that means something in english. I mean even if you don't actully cal people stupid, you make a lot of post where you're very patronizing and very arrogant, and you spend a huge amount of time explaning people how "they're wrong in the way they're expressing something". You may think you are a respectfull guy but you're not really. If Webby has any problem with me then he politely PM me. Because I won't be changing anytime soon. I'm kind of tired being the politically correct guy and just moving on whenever someone wants to say something to me. Apparently, it makes people think that I'll just shove off again. Maybe LIB is right, maybe Rifles is correct, maybe me being nice...almost too nice does hurt me. at least you're funny for once.
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Post by shaokahnage on Aug 23, 2012 15:56:18 GMT -5
Maybe pissing out of the window is ruining my houses property value.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 16:03:00 GMT -5
If Webby has any problem with me then he politely PM me. Because I won't be changing anytime soon. I'm kind of tired being the politically correct guy and just moving on whenever someone wants to say something to me. Apparently, it makes people think that I'll just shove off again. Maybe LIB is right, maybe Rifles is correct, maybe me being nice...almost too nice does hurt me. at least you're funny for once. You go fuck off too Anyone else want to say something to me?
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Post by RocketMan on Aug 23, 2012 16:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by spaneli on Aug 23, 2012 16:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by craigflash on Aug 23, 2012 16:21:30 GMT -5
See, it has happened again, it's just silly, eventually the people who come on here just for a good read like myself will just filter away and there will be 5 or 6 people on here using threats etc, really pointless when so much good could be put to use!! I'm honestly a massive Liam fan and never once have I felt the need to criticise to Noel the main reason been I know what he has contributed to so many good times in my life!! When people slate Liam's voice I honestly think WHEN Oasis get back together it will be pretty much as what the stone roses has been like,because Noel is stood at the side of him he will be singing the exact same but he will suddenly be on form again kinda like Ian brown, solo, he was shite, back with squire etc, back on form, crazyness! If you are more bothered about HFB than BDI go on the HFB part, there is more than enough topics to comment nicely on, same for BDI fans lets keep things interesting rather than squabbling over nothing!! Liam is nearly 40 he is never ever gunna sound like he did but one thing is for sure when he gets on that stage he gives everything, he doesn't get on stage and say right I'm gunna sing shit he gives it his all and makes a lot of people happy, the Olympics poll shows that, the ratings were at there highest when beady eye were on, higher than the spice girls higher than the who, take that, the lot! Also no matter what people say Liam has more balls/courage than 99.9% of the clubs about today, he ALWAYS sings live, the NAND write their own material and he isn't media trained etc, what you see is what you get, remember that!!!
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Post by leak4ever on Aug 23, 2012 16:23:06 GMT -5
at least you're funny for once. You go fuck off too Anyone else want to say something to me? spaneli vs truefaith Battle of the great minds.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Aug 23, 2012 16:25:21 GMT -5
i still think random drug testing should be implemented.
God bless.
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Post by ss on Aug 23, 2012 16:40:16 GMT -5
at least you're funny for once. You go fuck off too Anyone else want to say something to me? Well yes, if you're asking for it.. You said I'm not a regular, but I was a regular once. And I used to think you were a nice guy.. A bit overreacting, posting the same thing in three different allineas in every post you make, but a good guy overall.. I don't know what happened, but you left for a while and after that something changed. You're posting behavior wasn't the same anymore. Then yeah you were 'sincerly on hiatus' or whatever but now you're back and it's still the same, you're still quick-tempered and a lot more 'Noel' sided as you used to be. You must realise that yourself, Spanelli. Final note: this thread proves NOTHING on here is going to change (altough gd hasn't posted yet, which is slightly concerning ) so I think ALL good members who are annoyed by this situation should all delete their account straight away. For all genuine Beady Eye fans, let's all move over to www.beadyeyemusic.com/forum/ and blow some life in that place See you around!
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