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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 13, 2011 8:43:47 GMT -5
But if others see the price as cheap or just right it does have to do with just that person's person opinion on economy and how they spend their money. I think $74 is nothing and am more than glad to pay for something I love. Agree to disagree i really don't see how anyone could see that as cheap based on product, product comparison and especially a monumentally bad economy but ok.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 8:53:45 GMT -5
well I see it as Fair Value and the shows at $39 is fairly cheap, since it is only 4 times cost of a cd. But again just depends on your finances and how you spend your money.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 13, 2011 11:41:58 GMT -5
BDI have the right to set the price as high as they want to. Obviously more people will be inclined at the lowest price, with less wanting to attend at higher prices. That's simple economics. What's also simple economics is supply and demand. If the demand is there, the prices will be higher.
I haven't seen the prices for the 930 Club in DC yet (goes on sale on Friday). I paid $50 when all was said and done for Philly, and I would do so again. But if it's $75? Count me out on this one.
Yeah, on the merit of the album alone, the ticket prices would be around $20. But with Liam and the Oasis connection, they are able to increase those prices - remember, even though the album is average, you're seeing established musicians.
It's not price gouging, nor is it exploitation. It's the free market and capitalism at work. Just like Liam's Pretty Green - those prices are way too high for me, but that doesn't make Liam wrong for setting them that high.
If you can't afford it, or just think it's too much, then it's also you're right not to attend. Don't really understand the problem here?
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Post by thuperthonic on Jul 13, 2011 12:43:37 GMT -5
Don't really understand the problem here? It's simple, really. Some of us want to see them play live, but don't want to pay $75 in order to do so.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 13, 2011 12:46:18 GMT -5
BDI have the right to set the price as high as they want to. Obviously more people will be inclined at the lowest price, with less wanting to attend at higher prices. That's simple economics. What's also simple economics is supply and demand. If the demand is there, the prices will be higher. I haven't seen the prices for the 930 Club in DC yet (goes on sale on Friday). I paid $50 when all was said and done for Philly, and I would do so again. But if it's $75? Count me out on this one. Yeah, on the merit of the album alone, the ticket prices would be around $20. But with Liam and the Oasis connection, they are able to increase those prices - remember, even though the album is average, you're seeing established musicians. It's not price gouging, nor is it exploitation. It's the free market and capitalism at work. Just like Liam's Pretty Green - those prices are way too high for me, but that doesn't make Liam wrong for setting them that high. If you can't afford it, or just think it's too much, then it's also you're right not to attend. Don't really understand the problem here? yes, BDI have the right to set the price as high as they want, great. and yes, they're established musicians, who also aren't playing any of the songs that established them. it doesn't bother me that they aren't playing Oasis songs and i understand why they aren't but that would help justify the price of tickets. and for the product you get with Pretty Green it is fairly priced. take a Gap polo, a relatively cheap clothing brand and maybe a Lacoste polo, a respected and clothing brand known for quality. the Gap polo will probably lose it's buttons, the colors will fade and the fabric itself isn't as nice and isn't crafted the same as something like a Lacoste, Polo or Pretty Green brand. my point being, you're getting what you pay for. honestly, if BDI played Columbus, which wouldn't require me to have to travel, i'd go but i certainly couldn't justify paying for the higher priced tickets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 14:27:29 GMT -5
Ok, to get technical the definition of price gouging is pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available or in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. IF these tickets were over $100 you might have a case. But the LA show is $52 to $74. IF you dont want to pay $74, pay $52. It's that easy. Again, least they are coming to your town. Many people would at least like that option. And who cares if they only have one album, it is still the players involved that people want to see, especially Liam. And that album although you might not like, a lot of people do including the press suprisingly (check Noel's mention in the press conference from himself who seems not to like it). For an established band, you will pay more, an example Pearl Jam is $89 plus $20 fees. Again you price it out so it is fair and people pay what they want. If it is so price gouging they just wont sell out, and we will see. And Milwaukee is just a poor man's Chicago. But I work in Chicago and live in Milwaukee and there are reasons why. Traffic blows, taxes are higher, costs of everything is higher and traffic blows. I would much rather live in Milwaukee and travel to Chicago when needed or desired. Have fun sitting at home listening to your Ride CD's. I realize all of these things, thank you. That doesn't make it not overpriced in my eyes. That's great you can afford that, good have a good time! And, instead of repeating what I just wrote a few pages back, I WILL be at home listening to my Ride CDs, thank you very much.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jul 13, 2011 16:49:15 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of fight I got into with my flatmate in 2001.
(Two lads are sitting in their sitting room after a night out, eating chicken burgers, watching VH-1 or something)
GlastoEls: "I love this tune" Mike: "You wouldn't like it if it wasn't Ian Brown" G: "What? It IS Ian Brown, so what are you about?" M: "But you wouldn't like it if it wasn't" G: "But it is, and I like Ian Brown" M: "Yes, but if someone who wasn't Ian Brown released this tune, you wouldn't like it" G: "Yes, but Ian Brown DID release this tune - it's his voice, his style, and I like his voice and style!" M: "Don't bait me GlastoEls. Stop being an idiot" G: "What? What are you on about?" ......
Ends up in a pathetic "Hugh Grant versus Colin Firth in Bridget Jones" fight with the chicken burgers flying everywhere!
$50 for a new band would be too much - and you wouldn't pay it to see a non-Gallagher - but it IS Liam Gallagher, and therefore I'll pay $50 to see him sing in December! Brilliant news - looking forward to the gig.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 17:00:07 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of fight I got into with my flatmate in 2001. (Two lads are sitting in their sitting room after a night out, eating chicken burgers, watching VH-1 or something) GlastoEls: "I love this tune" Mike: "You wouldn't like it if it wasn't Ian Brown" G: "What? It IS Ian Brown, so what are you about?" M: "But you wouldn't like it if it wasn't" G: "But it is, and I like Ian Brown" M: "Yes, but if someone who wasn't Ian Brown released this tune, you wouldn't like it" G: "Yes, but Ian Brown DID release this tune - it's his voice, his style, and I like his voice and style!" M: "Don't bait me GlastoEls. Stop being an idiot" G: "What? What are you on about?" ...... Ends up in a pathetic "Hugh Grant versus Colin Firth in Bridget Jones" fight with the chicken burgers flying everywhere! $50 for a new band would be too much - and you wouldn't pay it to see a non-Gallagher - but it IS Liam Gallagher, and therefore I'll pay $50 to see him sing in December! Brilliant news - looking forward to the gig. Is that an excerpt from Macbeth?
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Post by songbird11 on Jul 13, 2011 19:42:29 GMT -5
Have fun taking it up the ass then. Those kind of prices for a band with one album is fucking ridiculous, I don't give a fuck who's in the band. You've got a solid point. It is kind of ridiculous to pay $75 for a band with only one album out. I'm still going to shell my money out for a ticket but tbqh, $75 does seem to be gouging it a bit. Oasis had more albums out than that and the most expensive I remember their tickets getting was maybe around $45-50. hey you'll enjoy the gig i seen em at manchester in march you'll love it,trust me. & whoever said fuck off liam .. i dotn think it's up to him or the band how much tickets are. the biggest rip offs are u2 even though im a fan & have every album they overcharge ... okay they have loads of albums but oasis were huge .. i seen them in 2009 a ticket didn't even cost 30 quid if i remember right.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jul 13, 2011 20:32:09 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of fight I got into with my flatmate in 2001. (Two lads are sitting in their sitting room after a night out, eating chicken burgers, watching VH-1 or something) GlastoEls: "I love this tune" Mike: "You wouldn't like it if it wasn't Ian Brown" G: "What? It IS Ian Brown, so what are you about?" M: "But you wouldn't like it if it wasn't" G: "But it is, and I like Ian Brown" M: "Yes, but if someone who wasn't Ian Brown released this tune, you wouldn't like it" G: "Yes, but Ian Brown DID release this tune - it's his voice, his style, and I like his voice and style!" M: "Don't bait me GlastoEls. Stop being an idiot" G: "What? What are you on about?" ...... Ends up in a pathetic "Hugh Grant versus Colin Firth in Bridget Jones" fight with the chicken burgers flying everywhere! $50 for a new band would be too much - and you wouldn't pay it to see a non-Gallagher - but it IS Liam Gallagher, and therefore I'll pay $50 to see him sing in December! Brilliant news - looking forward to the gig. Is that an excerpt from Macbeth? Well, to paraphrase old Bill - when it comes to Oasis, what's done is done!
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 21:04:12 GMT -5
I agree that even though they only have one album it still is Liam, gem and Andy. So the price is fine and people would complain if they were too cheap since the tourers would have the prices high and people would complain that the prices were not up to par with the talent. Find something else to whine about because this is pointless.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 13, 2011 21:10:38 GMT -5
I agree that even though they only have one album it still is Liam, gem and Andy. So the price is fine and people would complain if they were too cheap since the tourers would have the prices high and people would complain that the prices were not up to par with the talent. Find something else to whine about because this is pointless. i've never in my life heard of a consumer complaining about not paying enough for anything. i don't even know what else to say, normally i'm never at a loss for words.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 13, 2011 21:11:35 GMT -5
I agree that even though they only have one album it still is Liam, gem and Andy. So the price is fine and people would complain if they were too cheap since the tourers would have the prices high and people would complain that the prices were not up to par with the talent. Find something else to whine about because this is pointless. I'd like to know who those people are? Who are the people who complain about it being too cheap? No one is saying that they should charge 10 bucks. But the general consensus is that $75 is just too high. If the price were in the 40's. I don't think many would be complaining that it's too cheap.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 21:24:52 GMT -5
All I know is I am going to pay the $94 a ticket in Milwaukee. And that includes free parking, front row balcony and unlimited drinks. To me that is a pretty good deal and not too much.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 13, 2011 21:27:40 GMT -5
All I know is I am going to pay the $94 a ticket in Milwaukee. And that includes free parking, front row balcony and unlimited drinks. To me that is a pretty good deal and not too much. you should definitely bring a beer bong, get your money's worth.
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Post by jilliam on Jul 13, 2011 22:17:06 GMT -5
Be it what it may but, these little BE tix, after the Ticketbastard fees, are going to be around $100 smackers a pop. i hope the gigs sell out but, Im not sure if ppl will want to see more shows, with these high prices. If the tix were $500, Id pay it but, the casual fan, I cant see them wanting to fork over $95 for BE. they're figuring, LA has about 2-3000 DIE HARD fans that are willing to pay TOP $$$$ to see "Liam Gallagher"
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Post by jken61 on Jul 13, 2011 23:04:56 GMT -5
9:30 Club In DC $40 per ticket with service fees $46 also added on a processing fee of $4 $96 for two tickets which is close in price to the Philly show. Definitely going to the show!
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Post by songbird11 on Jul 14, 2011 17:42:05 GMT -5
All of ya's just fucking go & dig it .. if i lived over there i would,you live once you get money forever 1 way or another.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 14, 2011 18:13:48 GMT -5
9:30 Club In DC $40 per ticket with service fees $46 also added on a processing fee of $4 $96 for two tickets which is close in price to the Philly show. Definitely going to the show! See you there! It's about the same price as the Philly show, but a few dollars cheaper.
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Post by heathenchemistry02 on Jul 15, 2011 8:43:55 GMT -5
listen... they can charge whatever in the hell they want.
It's Oasis from like 2001 til now without Noel.
It's a new band and they are playing THEIR songs.
It would be cool to hear 3-4 oasis tunes meshed in there sure... but it's their band, their shows
they can charge whatever they want.
I'd gladly pay 50 bucks to see them, I don't care. So I don't understand the whining.
They haven't accomplished much... they have 1 top 40 single...
it's BEADY EYE... Liam mutha fucking Gallagher...
what else more you want? I'd go in a flash if they'd play somewhere within 3 hour drive of Nashville
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 15, 2011 9:01:36 GMT -5
Just got my ticket for the 930 Club in DC! Nice one!
$50.50 when all was said and done - that's actually just 50 cents more than what I paid for Philly. Not bad going, really.
Within the space of 5 months, I will have seen BDI more times than I saw Oasis in their 20 years of existence. That's mental.
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 15, 2011 12:09:29 GMT -5
Got my vancouver tickes!
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Post by jilliam on Jul 15, 2011 12:43:53 GMT -5
It's not price gouging, nor is it exploitation. It's the free market and capitalism at work. Just like Liam's Pretty Green - those prices are way too high for me, but that doesn't make Liam wrong for setting them that high. It well is price gouging. Yes its the whole capitalistic supply and demand but, as our ENTIRE world is witnessing, Capitalism is the root of all evil! Just because EVERYONE ELSE is charging TOP$$$$ for stuff doenst make it right for BE or PG to do the same! WTF happend to looking out for the fans? not many bands give a fuck, they're only looking at the end of every show, how much their take on the gig is going to be. And in a way, it upsets me, to see that Liam is ok with the prices PG is charging. I see hes trying to make his gear "exclusive" by keeping the prices up and catering to that type of clientel but, "going with the flow" of something that isnt right or unjust doestn sit right with me.
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Post by Crazy Joe Davola on Jul 15, 2011 13:23:12 GMT -5
It's not price gouging, nor is it exploitation. It's the free market and capitalism at work. Just like Liam's Pretty Green - those prices are way too high for me, but that doesn't make Liam wrong for setting them that high. It well is price gouging. Yes its the whole capitalistic supply and demand but, as our ENTIRE world is witnessing, Capitalism is the root of all evil! Just because EVERYONE ELSE is charging TOP$$$$ for stuff doenst make it right for BE or PG to do the same! WTF happend to looking out for the fans? not many bands give a fuck, they're only looking at the end of every show, how much their take on the gig is going to be. And in a way, it upsets me, to see that Liam is ok with the prices PG is charging. I see hes trying to make his gear "exclusive" by keeping the prices up and catering to that type of clientel but, "going with the flow" of something that isnt right or unjust doestn sit right with me. Pretty Green doesn't have enough money to be cheap. they're a new company, it just doesn't work that way unless someone like Bill Gates backs them, and even then it can't work that way unless they go 'walmart'. i don't eevn know how much Liam has invested in Pretty Green but i know Liam isn't like for real rich, like 'i'm going to buy a yacht today and doesn't matter' rich, and what's he's doing is on par with other high-end clothing brands. 'Pretty Green' is quality for what you buy, AND for the market and in comparison, unlike seeing BDI. i'm sorry, that's the way it is. i love Liam, i love Oasis, i like BDI.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 15, 2011 13:27:59 GMT -5
It's not price gouging, nor is it exploitation. It's the free market and capitalism at work. Just like Liam's Pretty Green - those prices are way too high for me, but that doesn't make Liam wrong for setting them that high. It well is price gouging. Yes its the whole capitalistic supply and demand but, as our ENTIRE world is witnessing, Capitalism is the root of all evil! Just because EVERYONE ELSE is charging TOP$$$$ for stuff doenst make it right for BE or PG to do the same! WTF happend to looking out for the fans? not many bands give a fuck, they're only looking at the end of every show, how much their take on the gig is going to be. And in a way, it upsets me, to see that Liam is ok with the prices PG is charging. I see hes trying to make his gear "exclusive" by keeping the prices up and catering to that type of clientel but, "going with the flow" of something that isnt right or unjust doestn sit right with me. What are you on about? Any business is about maximizing profits. If someone intentionally keeps their prices low, then that's a bonus. It is not, however, a right - as you're almost implying it should be. If I'm running BE's finances, and I know that I can get the show to sell out for $50, then I'm bloody well going to charge at least that amount. To not do so would be stupid.
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