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Post by kmtgod on Jul 12, 2011 20:56:59 GMT -5
Price gouge is not this case. According to a recent report this year the average ticket price this year for concerts is $67, so just over that is not price gouging. New York post article from last month.
And Milwaukee is a pretty nice city, downtown, some nice food and bars and well as sports. So nice rip, and just don't go, again if the demand is there they need to have higher prices. That is how economics work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 20:59:24 GMT -5
Price gouge is not this case. According to a recent report this year the average ticket price this year for concerts is $67, so just over that is not price gouging. New York post article from last month. And Milwaukee is a pretty nice city, downtown, some nice food and bars and well as sports. So nice rip, and just don't go, again if the demand is there they need to have higher prices. That is how economics work. Can I see that article? I'd wager that it takes into account huge tours like U2 and what not that charge upwards of $200 for the best tickets. And, regardless, that fine but $67 ain't the average price for concerts I go to and it certainly isn't the average price for new bands with only one album and a few b-sides to their name.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 12, 2011 21:09:03 GMT -5
Price gouge is not this case. According to a recent report this year the average ticket price this year for concerts is $67, so just over that is not price gouging. New York post article from last month. And Milwaukee is a pretty nice city, downtown, some nice food and bars and well as sports. So nice rip, and just don't go, again if the demand is there they need to have higher prices. That is how economics work. Milwaukee fucking sucks. i mean i live in Ohio, which isn't that great but i know enough to know that Milwaukee's worse. maybe it's nice if you like cheap beer. and, people like you are the ones that fuck up all the prices of everything because you're willing to pay ridiculous prices. i don't know what's worse, the assholes that make the cost of everything so high and take advantage of the weak, or the idiots that are actually willing to pay the costs.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 12, 2011 21:09:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 21:13:45 GMT -5
Crappy shows? It's not worth talking to you, I've seen plenty of brilliant shows that weren't even over $30, weren't even over $20. If you want to be an ignorant buffoon, go ahead.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 12, 2011 21:30:48 GMT -5
Yep great comebacks, have fun in Ohio watching Rascal Flats or OAR. I suppose everything people are worth paying more should be a lesser price just for you. This debate is ridiculous, as you just are putting up ridiculous arguments ripping on a city you have never been to. And yeah willing to pay just over the avg US ticket price makes me and all the others in the sold out hall assholes. Lol, gotta love mooks
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 12, 2011 21:38:58 GMT -5
Yep great comebacks, have fun in Ohio watching Rascal Flats or OAR. I suppose everything people are worth paying more should be a lesser price just for you. This debate is ridiculous, as you just are putting up ridiculous arguments ripping on a city you have never been to. And yeah willing to pay just over the avg US ticket price makes me and all the others in the sold out hall assholes. Lol, gotta love mooks mook? that sounds made up, on top of being stupid. enjoy the show. buy a t-shirt
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 12, 2011 21:44:59 GMT -5
And don't worry you can save your money for Noels show. Obviously you just don't like beady eye.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 12, 2011 21:53:41 GMT -5
And don't worry you can save your money for Noels show. Obviously you just don't like beady eye. i don't really like Beady Eye, that's another good reason to not pay for overpriced tickets. i mean, BDI are ok, nothing spectacular. in the grand scheme of things they're an average band, that if were going strictly on their own merits wouldn't even be able to charge $20 a ticket.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 12, 2011 21:56:17 GMT -5
And exactly, why would you even go to a concert of a band you don't like? Obviously that was the case, not the price. Lol
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 12, 2011 22:06:01 GMT -5
And exactly, why would you even go to a concert of a band you don't like? Obviously that was the case, not the price. Lol i like Beady Eye, well kinda. and mainly because of their Oasis connection. i don't love BDI. i appreciate them for what they are, an average band with a great lead singer. there's only a few bands i'd pay those prices to see, namely bands with more than one average album.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 12, 2011 22:18:26 GMT -5
Give them time, got to start somewhere. And their energy has been stronger then past oasis shows, which were becoming stale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 23:25:51 GMT -5
You know, I actually like this conversation. It's better than all of the speculation and conspiracy threads. Good old fashioned disagreement and swearing, as it should be!
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 12, 2011 23:38:17 GMT -5
75$?Wow. Last I checked, tickets for the Vancouver show were $44 + fees = about $57.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 13, 2011 0:55:13 GMT -5
Price gouge is not this case. According to a recent report this year the average ticket price this year for concerts is $67, so just over that is not price gouging. New York post article from last month. And Milwaukee is a pretty nice city, downtown, some nice food and bars and well as sports. So nice rip, and just don't go, again if the demand is there they need to have higher prices. That is how economics work. Milwaukee fucking sucks. i mean i live in Ohio, which isn't that great but i know enough to know that Milwaukee's worse. maybe it's nice if you like cheap beer. and, people like you are the ones that fuck up all the prices of everything because you're willing to pay ridiculous prices. i don't know what's worse, the assholes that make the cost of everything so high and take advantage of the weak, or the idiots that are actually willing to pay the costs. I wouldn't trade Milwaukee or Ohio, for Chicago. ;D But to the argument going on. This is price gauging. Take Liam out of that band and look at it's resume and tell me they're worth that much. One okay album, with some decent to pretty good b-sides. The price they're asking for is something that you'd have to pay for an established band with a few pretty good album to their name. Anyone who thinks that this isn't price gauging probably likes to get fucked in the ass.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2011 1:17:07 GMT -5
Milwaukee fucking sucks. i mean i live in Ohio, which isn't that great but i know enough to know that Milwaukee's worse. maybe it's nice if you like cheap beer. and, people like you are the ones that fuck up all the prices of everything because you're willing to pay ridiculous prices. i don't know what's worse, the assholes that make the cost of everything so high and take advantage of the weak, or the idiots that are actually willing to pay the costs. I wouldn't trade Milwaukee or Ohio, for Chicago. ;D But to the argument going on. This is price gauging. Take Liam out of that band and look at it's resume and tell me they're worth that much. One okay album, with some decent to pretty good b-sides. The price they're asking for is something that you'd have to pay for an established band with a few pretty good album to their name. Anyone who thinks that this isn't price gauging probably likes to get fucked in the ass. I'd pay half the price of the NYC show and full price for the Milwaukee show for a Ride reunion show playing all of Nowhere.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 7:29:31 GMT -5
Ok, to get technical the definition of price gouging is pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available or in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. IF these tickets were over $100 you might have a case. But the LA show is $52 to $74. IF you dont want to pay $74, pay $52. It's that easy. Again, least they are coming to your town.
Many people would at least like that option. And who cares if they only have one album, it is still the players involved that people want to see, especially Liam. And that album although you might not like, a lot of people do including the press suprisingly (check Noel's mention in the press conference from himself who seems not to like it).
For an established band, you will pay more, an example Pearl Jam is $89 plus $20 fees. Again you price it out so it is fair and people pay what they want. If it is so price gouging they just wont sell out, and we will see.
And Milwaukee is just a poor man's Chicago. But I work in Chicago and live in Milwaukee and there are reasons why. Traffic blows, taxes are higher, costs of everything is higher and traffic blows. I would much rather live in Milwaukee and travel to Chicago when needed or desired.
Have fun sitting at home listening to your Ride CD's.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 13, 2011 8:07:20 GMT -5
Ok, to get technical the definition of price gouging is pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available or in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. IF these tickets were over $100 you might have a case. But the LA show is $52 to $74. IF you dont want to pay $74, pay $52. It's that easy. Again, least they are coming to your town. Many people would at least like that option. And who cares if they only have one album, it is still the players involved that people want to see, especially Liam. And that album although you might not like, a lot of people do including the press suprisingly (check Noel's mention in the press conference from himself who seems not to like it). For an established band, you will pay more, an example Pearl Jam is $89 plus $20 fees. Again you price it out so it is fair and people pay what they want. If it is so price gouging they just wont sell out, and we will see. And Milwaukee is just a poor man's Chicago. But I work in Chicago and live in Milwaukee and there are reasons why. Traffic blows, taxes are higher, costs of everything is higher and traffic blows. I would much rather live in Milwaukee and travel to Chicago when needed or desired. Have fun sitting at home listening to your Ride CD's. you can give the technical terms of price gouging all you want but it's still way overpriced. i understand why BDI are doing what they're doing as far as prices, they just wanna make money and get out quickly instead dragging out a longer u.s. tour, which i don't blame them. america's too the point of being beyond ridiculous these days but still.........it's way overpriced. and, if you didn't slide in your stupid, snide comments at the end of your posts people would take you more seriously, and/or respect you and your views.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 8:14:07 GMT -5
Ok, Let it Bleed, I was told I am taking it up A** for wanting to pay what the market sets for the price and not having a problem with that. Also others ripping on a city, just because their city is not on the tour list. So that is where the stupid and snideness started.
Again, if it is overpriced, people wont go and they wont sell out. That is how you would define overpriced. If all the shows sell out, then they obviously weren't overpriced. The market was correct in the pricing then and everyone that attended got what they paid for.
And my guess based on your views and thoughts on this, you must be a Democrat. Just a guess.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 13, 2011 8:22:39 GMT -5
Ok, Let it Bleed, I was told I am taking it up A** for wanting to pay what the market sets for the price and not having a problem with that. Also others ripping on a city, just because their city is not on the tour list. So that is where the stupid and snideness started. Again, if it is overpriced, people wont go and they wont sell out. That is how you would define overpriced. If all the shows sell out, then they obviously weren't overpriced. The market was correct in the pricing then and everyone that attended got what they paid for. And my guess based on your views and thoughts on this, you must be a Democrat. Just a guess. of course the shows will sellout. america's a big country, people will come from miles to see them. like i said, i understand their thinking and what they're doing but it's still overpriced for what it is. also, i hold no political views, politics are ridiculous.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 8:29:42 GMT -5
But what is overpriced if the market pays for it and it sells out. Then maybe it was underpriced or priced just right? Thats the point.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 8:31:15 GMT -5
Also just depends on your other shopping habits and overall income. For $50-$75, that may be nothing for a person who makes more and a person who makes less than you may find that outrageous, and if that is the case probably shouldnt be going to expensive concerts.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 13, 2011 8:34:26 GMT -5
But what is overpriced if the market pays for it and it sells out. Then maybe it was underpriced or priced just right? Thats the point. we're speaking two different languages. i'm only saying, for the product and in comparison, it's overpriced, no matter the market. it is what it is, i don't even blame BDI for taking advantage of the market, or their strategy, it's smart.
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Post by kmtgod on Jul 13, 2011 8:38:44 GMT -5
But if others see the price as cheap or just right it does have to do with just that person's person opinion on economy and how they spend their money. I think $74 is nothing and am more than glad to pay for something I love. Agree to disagree
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Post by idledreamer on Jul 13, 2011 8:41:12 GMT -5
Again, if it is overpriced, people wont go and they wont sell out. That is how you would define overpriced. If all the shows sell out, then they obviously weren't overpriced. that is one way of looking at it. then again, another way of looking at it would be to say it doesn't matter how high the prices go, there are plenty of hard core oasis/b.d.i. fans over here that will pay these high prices no matter what.... the same ones who will travel 1,000 miles or more, pay for airfare and book a hotel room to see these guys... because the band isn't playing in their city and they don't know if/when they will be coming back. i doubt very much if there are many--- if any--- 'casual' fans going to these gigs to 'check them out' . (especially since most of these gigs are in elevator-sized venues.)
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