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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 7, 2024 0:18:43 GMT -5
What would the implications be if he sold the back catalogue? Surely they wouldn't be able to release any new material if someone owns the naming rights to Oasis?
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Post by andymorris on Oct 7, 2024 1:22:13 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if there is nothing new for christmas
as for the documentary, of course there will be one. there's documentaries on Karen going to the supermarket nowadays.
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Oct 7, 2024 1:40:05 GMT -5
What would the implications be if he sold the back catalogue? Surely they wouldn't be able to release any new material if someone owns the naming rights to Oasis? I'm not an expert on this but my understanding is that whoever buys the catalogue will be able to use the songs on commercials, movies and so on. Naming rights would still stay with Noel and Liam?
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Post by GlastoEls on Oct 7, 2024 1:58:14 GMT -5
What would the implications be if he sold the back catalogue? Surely they wouldn't be able to release any new material if someone owns the naming rights to Oasis? I'm not an expert on this but my understanding is that whoever buys the catalogue will be able to use the songs on commercials, movies and so on. Naming rights would still stay with Noel and Liam? They could sell the publishing to the songs (Springsteen) or sell them and the rights to the brand too (as Pink Floyd just did).
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Post by headshrank on Oct 7, 2024 2:55:05 GMT -5
What would the implications be if he sold the back catalogue? Surely they wouldn't be able to release any new material if someone owns the naming rights to Oasis? at the moment the rights to the recorded tracks will be owned by both sony and noel, essentially meaning that they both share a portion of the royalties when the song gets played. however most major labels only take their cut of the royalties for 25 years, after which the ownership is transferred back to artist. i’m assuming in this case the 25 years started in 2000 after creation records shut down and sony became the sole company that oasis dealt with (the sony creation records agreement is a whole different story tho). but essentially in 2025 noel gallagher will become the sole beneficiary of the royalties oasis songs produce. if he sells them that just means that instead of him receiving the royalties for the rest of his life, he’s just opting to receive a lump sum payment and the company that buys them will receive the royalty rights. they will still be able to tour as oasis and release new music as oasis. i’m not sure however how it will work merch and reissue wise, we might end up seeing a massive influx of oasis reissues and compilations if the company that buys the royalties tries to cash in on it
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Post by andymorris on Oct 7, 2024 4:30:09 GMT -5
Noel's not gonna sell, he's gonna milk it himself.
Macca style.
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Post by headshrank on Oct 7, 2024 4:46:54 GMT -5
Noel's not gonna sell, he's gonna milk it himself. Macca style. i think the reunion will obviously massively increase the value of his songs and i think there deffo is a good chance he won’t sell it now. not least until the reunion hype is over. he would be getting a massive paycheck from PRS just for the royalties on playing a catalogue of songs he’s written to the 1m+ people on the UK tour
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Oct 7, 2024 6:01:05 GMT -5
Noel's not gonna sell, he's gonna milk it himself. Macca style. i think the reunion will obviously massively increase the value of his songs and i think there deffo is a good chance he won’t sell it now. not least until the reunion hype is over. he would be getting a massive paycheck from PRS just for the royalties on playing a catalogue of songs he’s written to the 1m+ people on the UK tour PRS pays royalties for live gigs?
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Post by andymorris on Oct 7, 2024 6:08:04 GMT -5
Noel's not gonna sell, he's gonna milk it himself. Macca style. i think the reunion will obviously massively increase the value of his songs and i think there deffo is a good chance he won’t sell it now. not least until the reunion hype is over. he would be getting a massive paycheck from PRS just for the royalties on playing a catalogue of songs he’s written to the 1m+ people on the UK tour Other than that, he's always wanted to be in control of everything regarding his catalog. So its not to give it up when he gets 100% control. Noel has a label, employees, and knows the importance of legacy. Why would he would cut off the main source of growth ? think not. And He's gonna make way, way more money with the next year gigs alone. So there is really not need to sell. Or maybe after the 3rd divorce haha.
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Post by headshrank on Oct 7, 2024 6:31:12 GMT -5
i think the reunion will obviously massively increase the value of his songs and i think there deffo is a good chance he won’t sell it now. not least until the reunion hype is over. he would be getting a massive paycheck from PRS just for the royalties on playing a catalogue of songs he’s written to the 1m+ people on the UK tour PRS pays royalties for live gigs? yeah! they pay depending on the capacity not sure how much exactly but an artist earns publishing royalties when their song gets played live. that’s why noel never stopped liam playing oasis songs as he was still getting paid for it
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Post by headshrank on Oct 7, 2024 6:34:32 GMT -5
i think the reunion will obviously massively increase the value of his songs and i think there deffo is a good chance he won’t sell it now. not least until the reunion hype is over. he would be getting a massive paycheck from PRS just for the royalties on playing a catalogue of songs he’s written to the 1m+ people on the UK tour Other than that, he's always wanted to be in control of everything regarding his catalog. So its not to give it up when he gets 100% control. Noel has a label, employees, and knows the importance of legacy. Why would he would cut off the main source of growth ? think not. And He's gonna make way, way more money with the next year gigs alone. So there is really not need to sell. Or maybe after the 3rd divorce haha. i fully agree with this, i think once oasis really do stop he will sell. i think there’s obvs a reason why artists sell their royalties at the end of their career, or like springsteen and dylan when they get too old and it makes more sense for them to get a lump sum. it’s also something that only affect noel too obviously as the rest of oasis will still get their mechanical royalties from having played on the songs, so as long as oasis are back i can’t imagine noel will sell them
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Post by andymorris on Oct 7, 2024 7:48:09 GMT -5
Other than that, he's always wanted to be in control of everything regarding his catalog. So its not to give it up when he gets 100% control. Noel has a label, employees, and knows the importance of legacy. Why would he would cut off the main source of growth ? think not. And He's gonna make way, way more money with the next year gigs alone. So there is really not need to sell. Or maybe after the 3rd divorce haha. i fully agree with this, i think once oasis really do stop he will sell. i think there’s obvs a reason why artists sell their royalties at the end of their career, or like springsteen and dylan when they get too old and it makes more sense for them to get a lump sum. it’s also something that only affect noel too obviously as the rest of oasis will still get their mechanical royalties from having played on the songs, so as long as oasis are back i can’t imagine noel will sell them Yeah totally. This is gonna end up like the Beatles with the kids managing the legacy. Probably noel's kids more like (Anais ?), since Liam's kids all look pretty dumb.
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Post by headshrank on Oct 7, 2024 8:26:29 GMT -5
i fully agree with this, i think once oasis really do stop he will sell. i think there’s obvs a reason why artists sell their royalties at the end of their career, or like springsteen and dylan when they get too old and it makes more sense for them to get a lump sum. it’s also something that only affect noel too obviously as the rest of oasis will still get their mechanical royalties from having played on the songs, so as long as oasis are back i can’t imagine noel will sell them Yeah totally. This is gonna end up like the Beatles with the kids managing the legacy. Probably noel's kids more like (Anais ?), since Liam's kids all look pretty dumb. i’m guessing in technical terms it will just go to noel’s kids, but i think he will sell up in 10 years time. once oasis retire, i can’t imagine they will end up doing the whole rolling stones thing of playing into their 80s. if the reunion if for the right reasons and not just a cash grab then id say we’ve got about 7-10 years of oasis before it’s over. t would make way more sense for him to take the £250m he can get for the royalties rather then leave them for his kids. no one would be able to touch the oasis name, they just would just not earn any residuals from cover bands or documentaries. i imagine the oasis name and trademark is all registered to a company owned by liam and noel.
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Post by andymorris on Oct 7, 2024 8:37:56 GMT -5
Yeah totally. This is gonna end up like the Beatles with the kids managing the legacy. Probably noel's kids more like (Anais ?), since Liam's kids all look pretty dumb. i’m guessing in technical terms it will just go to noel’s kids, but i think he will sell up in 10 years time. once oasis retire, i can’t imagine they will end up doing the whole rolling stones thing of playing into their 80s. if the reunion if for the right reasons and not just a cash grab then id say we’ve got about 7-10 years of oasis before it’s over. t would make way more sense for him to take the £250m he can get for the royalties rather then leave them for his kids. no one would be able to touch the oasis name, they just would just not earn any residuals from cover bands or documentaries. i imagine the oasis name and trademark is all registered to a company owned by liam and noel. yeah its a company owned by both brothers and some other people; I dont know, at least one of their gazillion kids could want to continue the Oasis name, and the other ones will receive money for doing nothing. There's plenty to do : demos, live releases, remasters, films, exhibitions, merch... etc Will Oasis still be a seller in 20/30 years, who knows ? If everything is already done maybe Noel will sell, but my guess is that he wont.
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Post by jeffrey on Oct 7, 2024 11:13:09 GMT -5
i fully agree with this, i think once oasis really do stop he will sell. i think there’s obvs a reason why artists sell their royalties at the end of their career, or like springsteen and dylan when they get too old and it makes more sense for them to get a lump sum. it’s also something that only affect noel too obviously as the rest of oasis will still get their mechanical royalties from having played on the songs, so as long as oasis are back i can’t imagine noel will sell them Yeah totally. This is gonna end up like the Beatles with the kids managing the legacy. Probably noel's kids more like (Anais ?), since Liam's kids all look pretty dumb. “Liam’s kids all look pretty dumb” is an incredibly dumb/idiotic statement.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Oct 7, 2024 11:24:24 GMT -5
Yeah totally. This is gonna end up like the Beatles with the kids managing the legacy. Probably noel's kids more like (Anais ?), since Liam's kids all look pretty dumb. “Liam’s kids all look pretty dumb” is an incredibly dumb/idiotic statement. Agreed. You should’ve thought twice before posting that, Andy.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 7, 2024 11:36:23 GMT -5
Gemma Gallagher's mum is a NYC lawyer. She is probably best suited to running the legacy. Real Cinderella story right at the death, from her.
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Post by marqueemoon on Oct 7, 2024 12:37:12 GMT -5
Noel gets the rights back next year?
Better grab up all those second hand copies of Be Here Now before he discontinues it
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Oct 7, 2024 13:15:02 GMT -5
Noel gets the rights back next year? Better grab up all those second hand copies of Be Here Now before he discontinues it I'd be more worried about Sunday Morning Call. Might be wiped off the face of the Earth.
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Post by vespa on Oct 7, 2024 17:11:42 GMT -5
Andy is a twat that’s why , always shit idiotic posts from him.. liams kids are far from thick
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Post by shannee on Oct 7, 2024 18:06:34 GMT -5
Noel gets the rights back next year? Better grab up all those second hand copies of Be Here Now before he discontinues it I'd be more worried about Sunday Morning Call. Might be wiped off the face of the Earth. Does Noel hate Sunday morning call?
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 7, 2024 18:11:09 GMT -5
I'd be more worried about Sunday Morning Call. Might be wiped off the face of the Earth. Does Noel hate Sunday morning call? its a hidden track on times flies..
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 7, 2024 18:33:40 GMT -5
I'd be more worried about Sunday Morning Call. Might be wiped off the face of the Earth. Does Noel hate Sunday morning call? If he doesn't he should 😂
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Post by jaq515 on Oct 7, 2024 18:37:03 GMT -5
Does Noel hate Sunday morning call? If he doesn't he should 😂 noel 100% said he hated it why its not got a listing on times flies
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Oct 7, 2024 18:37:53 GMT -5
Skip to 4:42 for thoughts on Sunday Morning Call
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