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Post by mrflibble on Sept 5, 2024 7:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by quantum on Sept 5, 2024 8:10:52 GMT -5
I mean really in theory anyone who was previously in Oasis should get the same as Noel and Liam? Clearly not going to happen though. Why? Those 2 are the key members! That's like saying everyone in a movie should be paid the same.
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Post by cedomil on Sept 5, 2024 8:16:17 GMT -5
Isn't it Steve White, The Style Council Drummer?
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Post by emil on Sept 5, 2024 8:23:21 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to know how much other members get. Will they just get touring members pay? I'd imagine that might cause some bad feeling, I mean really in theory anyone who was previously in Oasis should get the same as Noel and Liam? Clearly not going to happen though. Out of interest, anyone in the industry have any idea how much Liam and Noel's band members might get paid? I assume it varies wildly depending on the role of the person e.g. Gem is going to get more than the Roxy's. I guess that depends who are "official members"? Is Oasis now simply Liam and Noel, in the official/legal sense? - If so, then I guess they'd get a bigger cut of the gig appearance dough. I'd be be a bit annoyed that was the case and I was Gem. I'd been an official member, got songs I'd written on an few albums and now I'm not actually an official member but part of the reunion. Same goes for Bonehead I guess as far as back but not an official member. I'm sure they'd still get paid well, I'm just curious if they will be official members, or if just Liam and Noel are Oasis. Weren't Gem and Andy Bell only actually considered touring members during the SOTSOG tour and officially joined after, legally speaking? Doubt they ever had ownership of the band/brand like Noel and Liam. I imagine they were paid employees like e.g. Tommy Thayer and Eric Singer (?). Could be wrong ofc. Sure I am. But being a member of the band =/= owner of the band.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 5, 2024 8:26:52 GMT -5
It's exploitative, obviously. Cartel shit. Anyway it seems to be sorted going forward which is great. As much as I want to believe so, I am struggling to see just how they can attain public forgiveness outside of diehard fans, and save their reputation. I don’t know how they’ll silence people about this. As public just responded to the extra gig announcement like it had been planned all along just to make more. I personally think the answer is some sort of long-term thing on Ticketmaster where if you prove you paid above list price for a ticket, you get the difference back. But tbh, even if they did that, people will just whinge “it’s not enough, you owe me more for that time i spent queuing!” Reality is, as with many others, in a while people won't care I get that we're all worried but of course if you're looking for comments you're gonna find them The gigs are all sold out, people will be happy and once they deliver other content in the build-up those who care will focus on that and those who just wanted to join in the animosity will focus on something else, a lot of stuff goes on in the world
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Post by emil on Sept 5, 2024 8:28:41 GMT -5
I mean really in theory anyone who was previously in Oasis should get the same as Noel and Liam? Clearly not going to happen though. Why? Those 2 are the key members! That's like saying everyone in a movie should be paid the same. Everyone in KISS made the same. Even in the late 70s with Gene being the key member. Doesn't U2 split equal. I'd say Bono is the key member there. What has it to do with movies? But on that topic, everyone on the Tv-series FRIENDS made the same through the whole series. (Not saying I agree that everyone who was once in the current band should get the same though)
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Post by vespa on Sept 5, 2024 8:39:44 GMT -5
Oasis is Liam and Noel .. the others played a part but it’s essentially them .. anyone saying any different as lost the plot… also the statement above about I remember them playing smaller venues .. yes alongside major summer gigs.. but also let’s take something into consideration .. it’s an oasis reunion, it’s the most sought after reunion in world music , do you honestly think they gonna book 300 dates at Manchester Apollo? Seriously I can’t get my head some of the shit posted on here , you talk like oasis are some irrelevant indie band like catfish and bottle men .. most seem to have underestimated just how big they are and were .. 100 million records sold , still hitting number 1 albums and 1.4 million tickets sold within minutes . It’s only gonna get bigger
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 5, 2024 8:39:58 GMT -5
Coldplay do it 40-20-20-20, with Chris obviously getting the most.
Oasis was always much more dominated by Noel/Liam, though. A different beast.
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Post by psj3809 on Sept 5, 2024 8:44:13 GMT -5
Crazy that someone suggested all the band members get equal money ! Jesus i wish we went back to dynamic pricing arguments. Same money when Noels written so many of the classics, what a complete joke.
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Post by matt on Sept 5, 2024 9:04:37 GMT -5
Absolutely agree with the PR just focusing on Noel and Liam. Just the pair of them together is such a powerful statement, always the focal point, and getting others on board dilutes that effect.
They ARE Oasis, let's not pretend otherwise. Bonehead, as much as I love him and so enthused to hopefully have him back, and whoever your next favourite member is, were always supporting cast members.
A full band photo just wouldn't work. The headlines would be distracted by 'OASIS REUNITE!!!!.... but who the fuck are those guys?'. It would have spoilt the party.
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Post by jaq515 on Sept 5, 2024 9:05:13 GMT -5
As someone previously said said Gem and andy were on a salary for the SOTSOG tour
Then when they recorded heathen chemistry is when they started to get band pay. (I’m insanely paraphrasing and may be making this up but sure Noel said one of the reason songwriting was opened up was so others could start earning so decent money)
I’d be very surprised whoever’s in the band isn’t gonna be just on a salary / paid per gig etc
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 5, 2024 9:13:12 GMT -5
I think this is the third or maybe three hundredth time I have said it but to paraphrase Mark E Smith: It could be Liam, Noel and Mr Blobby on the triangle and it would be Oasis. Bonehead, Gem, Alan White, Tony McCarroll or whoever. It doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody will be disappointed if Bonehead isn't involved (he absolutely 100% is) but if it isn't Liam or Noel, it won't be Oasis.
Can we drop this topic of conversation now, as it is irrelevant. Hence why it is just Liam and Noel on the promo shoots. If they have the band decided (which they obviously do because to arrange a stadium-wide tour without having sorted their band out would be bonkers), then why haven't they included them in the promo shoots? Because they aren't the main event.
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 5, 2024 9:21:13 GMT -5
I think this is the third or maybe three hundredth time I have said it but to paraphrase Mark E Smith: It could be Liam, Noel and Mr Blobby on the triangle and it would be Oasis. Bonehead, Gem, Alan White, Tony McCarroll or whoever. It doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody will be disappointed if Bonehead isn't involved (he absolutely 100% is) but if it isn't Liam or Noel, it won't be Oasis. Can we drop this topic of conversation now, as it is irrelevant. Hence why it is just Liam and Noel on the promo shoots. If they have the band decided (which they obviously do because to arrange a stadium-wide tour without having sorted their band out would be bonkers), then why haven't they included them in the promo shoots? Because they aren't the main event. I will. There's a pretty obvious common-sense middle-ground to this one, I'd have thought: ------------------------- Noel and Liam are Oasis. The classic nineties line-up are also part of the Oasis magic. The 2000's line-up is also part of Oasis, but with less of the magic of the glory days of the band attached.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 5, 2024 9:24:50 GMT -5
I think this is the third or maybe three hundredth time I have said it but to paraphrase Mark E Smith: It could be Liam, Noel and Mr Blobby on the triangle and it would be Oasis. Bonehead, Gem, Alan White, Tony McCarroll or whoever. It doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody will be disappointed if Bonehead isn't involved (he absolutely 100% is) but if it isn't Liam or Noel, it won't be Oasis. Can we drop this topic of conversation now, as it is irrelevant. Hence why it is just Liam and Noel on the promo shoots. If they have the band decided (which they obviously do because to arrange a stadium-wide tour without having sorted their band out would be bonkers), then why haven't they included them in the promo shoots? Because they aren't the main event. I will. There's a pretty obvious common-sense middle-ground to this one, I'd have thought: ------------------------- Noel and Liam are Oasis. The classic nineties line-up are also part of the Oasis magic. The 2000's line-up is also part of Oasis, but with less of the magic of the glory days of the band attached. Agreed, but I think the general public don't really care either way! Hardcore fans will, yeah, but casual fans see Oasis as Liam and Noel and that's it. Plus, imo it makes for much more striking marketing having a picture of just those two together because having no one else in the picture centres the importance of the moment and also the spectacle of it - 2 brothers who've been estranged for 15 years are finally back in the same room
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Post by racingman11 on Sept 5, 2024 9:25:58 GMT -5
I think this is the third or maybe three hundredth time I have said it but to paraphrase Mark E Smith: It could be Liam, Noel and Mr Blobby on the triangle and it would be Oasis. Bonehead, Gem, Alan White, Tony McCarroll or whoever. It doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody will be disappointed if Bonehead isn't involved (he absolutely 100% is) but if it isn't Liam or Noel, it won't be Oasis. Can we drop this topic of conversation now, as it is irrelevant. Hence why it is just Liam and Noel on the promo shoots. If they have the band decided (which they obviously do because to arrange a stadium-wide tour without having sorted their band out would be bonkers), then why haven't they included them in the promo shoots? Because they aren't the main event. I think nothing is signed yet concerning the Line-up. The secret was well kept (It’s only 36 hours before announcement that word went out with the Sunday Times article). So I guess they try to keep the number of people involved low, in order to have a « shock » announcement. It’s pretty sure they have ideas and I guess people have alerady been reached and may have agree, but there is paperwork to do and press release to prepare, so that may take some time.
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Post by darmin on Sept 5, 2024 10:20:25 GMT -5
I think this is the third or maybe three hundredth time I have said it but to paraphrase Mark E Smith: It could be Liam, Noel and Mr Blobby on the triangle and it would be Oasis. Bonehead, Gem, Alan White, Tony McCarroll or whoever. It doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody will be disappointed if Bonehead isn't involved (he absolutely 100% is) but if it isn't Liam or Noel, it won't be Oasis. Can we drop this topic of conversation now, as it is irrelevant. Hence why it is just Liam and Noel on the promo shoots. If they have the band decided (which they obviously do because to arrange a stadium-wide tour without having sorted their band out would be bonkers), then why haven't they included them in the promo shoots? Because they aren't the main event. I think nothing is signed yet concerning the Line-up. The secret was well kept (It’s only 36 hours before announcement that word went out with the Sunday Times article). So I guess they try to keep the number of people involved low, in order to have a « shock » announcement. It’s pretty sure they have ideas and I guess people have alerady been reached and may have agree, but there is paperwork to do and press release to prepare, so that may take some time. I heard from another fan who knows someone from their families (sorry can’t be more specific) that the previous members of the band had been aware about the negotiations for a long time. And Noel and Liam talked about the lineup, among other things
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Post by noeloliam on Sept 5, 2024 10:20:36 GMT -5
The line up will be:
Noel Rkid Bonehead Guigs Alan White Alan McGee Tony Blair
And if you don't know anything about it and you go out to say Tony Blair ain't man, he's a MAN. Power to the people !!!!!!!1
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 5, 2024 10:36:53 GMT -5
Honestly, the lineup isn't that important to me. Sure it would be great to see the reunion picture with all beloved past members, and I'd love a mix of early Oasis and late Oasis. But I'd also be excited if there were new members and they'd bring new sounds to the band.
And yeah, as much as I like Bonehead or Alan... Oasis are Liam and Noel, I thought that was pretty clear.
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Post by sheisloved on Sept 5, 2024 10:56:59 GMT -5
North America announcement imminent.
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Post by alex75 on Sept 5, 2024 11:04:48 GMT -5
North America announcement imminent. Sure?
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 5, 2024 11:06:34 GMT -5
Coldplay do it 40-20-20-20, with Chris obviously getting the most. Oasis was always much more dominated by Noel/Liam, though. A different beast. I'm pretty sure the 40-20-20-20 is for their songwriting royalties. As far as I know, Coldplay's song royalties go 4 ways, but Martin gets 40%. Oasis never did that, the writer of the song got the royalties. This is a separate issue to who is actually an official band members. I'm sure Coldplay's members get paid equally for actual concerts. All 4 are official equal members of the band. Most bands do this. Liam won't have been making more money from a tour than Bonehead in 1995, they'd have been earning the same as equal official members. But is Oasis right now just Liam and Noel and the rest on a salary next year? - I'm gonna guess it's something like this. It's a lot more business driven now. Back then it was just all in it together, like bands are when they start out. Although Noel was getting the songwriters royalties.
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Post by jumpinjackflash78 on Sept 5, 2024 12:09:34 GMT -5
North America announcement imminent. They better keep the hype and buzz going. And they should give it a go now especially having promo out their already like the stuff in NY earlier this week. Their team should be able to handle stuff around these extra Wembley shows at the same time. Come on!
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Post by andymorris on Sept 5, 2024 12:09:54 GMT -5
Coldplay do it 40-20-20-20, with Chris obviously getting the most. Oasis was always much more dominated by Noel/Liam, though. A different beast. I'm pretty sure the 40-20-20-20 is for their songwriting royalties. As far as I know, Coldplay's song royalties go 4 ways, but Martin gets 40%. Oasis never did that, the writer of the song got the royalties. This is a separate issue to who is actually an official band members. I'm sure Coldplay's members get paid equally for actual concerts. All 4 are official equal members of the band. Most bands do this. Liam won't have been making more money from a tour than Bonehead in 1995, they'd have been earning the same as equal official members. But is Oasis right now just Liam and Noel and the rest on a salary next year? - I'm gonna guess it's something like this. It's a lot more business driven now. Back then it was just all in it together, like bands are when they start out. Although Noel was getting the songwriters royalties. There is no one in Oasis. Noel and Liam own Big Brother Recordings Ltd who operates Oasis. When Guigsy and Bonehead left, they created this entity. So there is no "official" member bar the brothers and Marcus Russell as directors in the parent company. Not even Alan White who was still there but resigned as director when he left Oasis. Since then, Noel made the most money (recording, songwriting, touring, publishing), then Liam (recording, touring, publishing, songwriting), then Andy and Gem started as touring members before being incorporated more "officially" in the band in some way or another. But just as musicians, not as executives in the company that manages the band. find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03897337/officers
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Post by mrflibble on Sept 5, 2024 12:11:41 GMT -5
Isn't it Steve White, The Style Council Drummer? Alan has made a joke about the line up under Steve's original post. I may not have pasted that properly.
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Post by CFC2013 on Sept 5, 2024 12:29:17 GMT -5
North America announcement imminent. The leak is imminent
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