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Post by freddy838 on Sept 5, 2024 4:00:46 GMT -5
I assume dynamic pricing could work both ways, if there isn't demand then they can lower the price as well? It's possible they thought fucking hell, £100-£180 is at the upper end of what people will pay, if it doesn't sell at that price we may reduce some tickets to £80 in the future or whatever.
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Post by scorpiosonic on Sept 5, 2024 4:10:20 GMT -5
Who has bought Liam's silence? Do we think he's gone quiet on his own, randomly, after 15 years of loud-mouthing on every oasis related issue? IT'S NOELS TERMS! Money first, everything else after. Once they've made their bank, they'll make it up to the fans Watch it happen... It will leave a sour taste in the mouth for fans I hope they make it up so much that we forget about this disgraceful start Do you really need 6 posts to make your point, mate? this is a forum, the one thing we can do is post freely 😂
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Post by noelio883 on Sept 5, 2024 4:28:04 GMT -5
What I'm waiting for is the moment Liam realises that HE has the power now, and HE is the main star, and I wonder whether he will risk fighting with Noel to take more of the power. If not, how long can he sit back and watch Noel ruin the Oasis legacy, little by little? Yawn. Boring.
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Post by bt95 on Sept 5, 2024 4:30:02 GMT -5
I'm genuinely amazed at how many people are buying the idea that Noel wasn't involved The wool they're pulling over your eyes is so thin, and still you choose not to see... Jesus Christ. No artist is sitting down with a fine tooth comb going through contracts. Is this driven by cash? Almost certainly. Could the band have done better - ultimately is it their responsibility to say no? Yes, it is. However, did Noel and/or Liam actually negotiate the deal? Not one bit.
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Post by bt95 on Sept 5, 2024 4:31:18 GMT -5
I assume dynamic pricing could work both ways, if there isn't demand then they can lower the price as well? It's possible they thought fucking hell, £100-£180 is at the upper end of what people will pay, if it doesn't sell at that price we may reduce some tickets to £80 in the future or whatever. They'd booked 14 dates initially, had 3 more ready to go and another 2 in reserve at Wembley at the end of September (and it's that late because they're going to be doing stadiums in the States). They were well aware this would sell out at the price.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 5, 2024 4:35:34 GMT -5
Don't make this thred derailed as tedious Noel vs Liam "debat".
To me, it's naive to think that they had/have nothing to do with ticket pricing, but yes, the management f**ked up again.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 5, 2024 4:41:27 GMT -5
We know from the Riddler that Liam and Noel are (were?) on this forum. Wait seriously? This isn't me trying to slight you or anything btw, genuinely curious! Yeah The Riddler mentioned years ago that they are on here. There's a thread where someone asked 'who do you know personally that is on this forum' or something like that. She mentioned Webby and Liam and Noel. I doubt they are on here now tbf. Reddit or Twitter are probably where they go now, this comment was a few years ago.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 5, 2024 4:45:03 GMT -5
What I'm waiting for is the moment Liam realises that HE has the power now, and HE is the main star, and I wonder whether he will risk fighting with Noel to take more of the power. If not, how long can he sit back and watch Noel ruin the Oasis legacy, little by little? Nice show, what channel is it on?
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Post by walkersafc on Sept 5, 2024 4:53:50 GMT -5
Ridiculous some of the whinging on this forum. A couple of weeks ago an oasis reunion seemed like a pipe dream. Now oasis are back doing gigs and people now want to argue about who’s decision ticket pricing is. The band have sold the gigs out, more gigs are on the way with mistakes learnt it seems so please just stop moaning about nothing. The band are back and bigger than ever which is brilliant. Back in the charts and probably back to no1 in album charts tomorrow. Enjoy it.
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Post by bt95 on Sept 5, 2024 4:54:51 GMT -5
Don't make this thred derailed as tedious Noel vs Liam "debat". To me, it's naive to think that they had/have nothing to do with ticket pricing, but yes, the management f**ked up again. They ultimately signed off on the contract put in front of them. But some are acting like one/both of them went through it themselves. They'll have agreed in principle to a big fat fee, management and promoter will have sorted it, they'll have put the contract in front of them, and it'll have been signed.
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Post by cedomil on Sept 5, 2024 4:56:38 GMT -5
OK guys, please all be reasonable. We have the dream come true in our lifetime, and now all the talk is about something our guys hardly have touch with? I really don't think that even Noel who is The Brain (Liam is of course the Heart ) of Oasis had an idea what would Ticketmaster do with the tickets. I am sure they (Oasis) have 1,000,000 other things on their minds right now and adding two extra shows on Wembley is just a quick try to make some of the things right. Now, what? We don't like the idea of these two extra shows?? Really? There will be more, I am sure. Again, we are living the dream. Just remember past 15 non-Oasis years, how many of us would go - "i'd sell my house to see them live"? Now supply and demand (as I elsewhere stated) and Ticketmaster pure greed brought some tickets to 300, 400, 500 pounds, euros... now we're suddenly like "Oh, they were my boys next door band, I used to watch 'em in a pub, in a small venue cross the street for a fiver... how come these multimilion dollar tickets??!!!?" Well, that's (TM aside) the price of living the dream. And let's live it. C'mon, let's think this way - If there was, roughly 14 million demand for tickets and Wembley capacity is 90,000, then we would need 155 Wembley shows so all can be satisfied Peace & love!
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Post by psj3809 on Sept 5, 2024 5:01:33 GMT -5
Ridiculous some of the whinging on this forum. A couple of weeks ago an oasis reunion seemed like a pipe dream. Now oasis are back doing gigs and people now want to argue about who’s decision ticket pricing is. The band have sold the gigs out, more gigs are on the way with mistakes learnt it seems so please just stop moaning about nothing. The band are back and bigger than ever which is brilliant. Back in the charts and probably back to no1 in album charts tomorrow. Enjoy it. Totally agree, its getting boring. I doubt Noel or Liam hardly know anything about dynamic pricing and left that to their management (Who made a clanger). The band are back, gonna be exciting learning whos back in the band and what songs they'll do, warm up gigs etc. All this will be forgotton next year. I'm enjoying seeing how popular they are, albums and singles doing well, new generation of fans. Roll on next year
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Post by emil on Sept 5, 2024 5:19:43 GMT -5
I'm genuinely amazed at how many people are buying the idea that Noel wasn't involved The wool they're pulling over your eyes is so thin, and still you choose not to see... Jesus Christ. No artist is sitting down with a fine tooth comb going through contracts. Is this driven by cash? Almost certainly. Could the band have done better - ultimately is it their responsibility to say no? Yes, it is. However, did Noel and/or Liam actually negotiate the deal? Not one bit. No artist avoids hearing ”dynamic pricing of tickets” mentioned.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 5, 2024 5:33:17 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. No artist is sitting down with a fine tooth comb going through contracts. Is this driven by cash? Almost certainly. Could the band have done better - ultimately is it their responsibility to say no? Yes, it is. However, did Noel and/or Liam actually negotiate the deal? Not one bit. No artist avoids hearing ”dynamic pricing of tickets” mentioned. Totally. Noel sure doesn't attend meetings that dont involve music releases, but he is surely given the key elements of negotiation. He knows by pocketting 50 Millions (again, that's ALL his fortune estimate so far) for these shows that tickets will be over the top expensive, and that's not even mentionning dynamic pricing. After all, he owns a label and approves every Oasis related new project. Liam does too. Let's not forget that. He's not "just" the guitarist of Oasis and he's not gonna let anyone else handle the comeback of his life. People thinking he didn't know are lying to themselves.
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Post by sundaymorningcolin on Sept 5, 2024 5:40:57 GMT -5
No artist avoids hearing ”dynamic pricing of tickets” mentioned. Totally. Noel sure doesn't attend meetings that dont involve music releases, but he is surely given the key elements of negotiation. He knows by pocketting 50 Millions (again, that's ALL his fortune estimate so far) for these shows that tickets will be over the top expensive, and that's not even mentionning dynamic pricing. After all, he owns a label and approves every Oasis related new project. Liam does too. Let's not forget that. He's not "just" the guitarist of Oasis and he's not gonna let anyone else handle the comeback of his life. People thinking he didn't know are lying to themselves. Do you ever get bored of your whinging?
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Post by sundaymorningcolin on Sept 5, 2024 5:44:03 GMT -5
Ridiculous some of the whinging on this forum. A couple of weeks ago an oasis reunion seemed like a pipe dream. Now oasis are back doing gigs and people now want to argue about who’s decision ticket pricing is. The band have sold the gigs out, more gigs are on the way with mistakes learnt it seems so please just stop moaning about nothing. The band are back and bigger than ever which is brilliant. Back in the charts and probably back to no1 in album charts tomorrow. Enjoy it. It’s not an Oasis reunion because it’s only Liam & Noel in the promotional photo is my personal favourite
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Post by headshrank on Sept 5, 2024 5:53:22 GMT -5
can we make a separate thread where everyone who wants to spend the whole time moaning can go off and do it there, instead of bringing the vibes down in this one lol
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Post by sheisloved on Sept 5, 2024 5:54:21 GMT -5
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by sheisloved on Sept 5, 2024 5:55:45 GMT -5
can we make a separate thread where everyone who wants to spend the whole time moaning can go off and do it there, instead of bringing the vibes down in this one lol 100%. Start a "Complain and Tickets and Reunion Thread". This thread is giving off "woke" vibes lol
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 5, 2024 6:15:00 GMT -5
can we make a separate thread where everyone who wants to spend the whole time moaning can go off and do it there, instead of bringing the vibes down in this one lol 100%. Start a "Complain and Tickets and Reunion Thread". This thread is giving off "woke" vibes lol We’ve created several new threads since the reunion was confirmed - Tour dates thread, Question&recommendation for accommodation, transport etc and ticket sale/buy/swap thread. There are 2 threads made by members about dynamic pricing. Yet people post all over and we keep moving those posts to another thread. We’re not making another thread. They can post complaining in the dynamic pricing related thread.
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Post by bringitondown77 on Sept 5, 2024 6:27:35 GMT -5
Liam did a really good job on Whatever this Summer:
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Post by eagled on Sept 5, 2024 7:06:56 GMT -5
I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt, I've seen plenty of interviews with Liam when he's talking about tours and he has no idea of when tickets go sale and what dates he's playing where etc. Not sure they sweat the small stuff when they have people to tell them when and where they need.
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Post by neila83 on Sept 5, 2024 7:22:27 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to know how much other members get. Will they just get touring members pay? I'd imagine that might cause some bad feeling, I mean really in theory anyone who was previously in Oasis should get the same as Noel and Liam? Clearly not going to happen though.
Out of interest, anyone in the industry have any idea how much Liam and Noel's band members might get paid? I assume it varies wildly depending on the role of the person e.g. Gem is going to get more than the Roxy's.
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Post by surrealneil on Sept 5, 2024 7:31:46 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to know how much other members get. Will they just get touring members pay? I'd imagine that might cause some bad feeling, I mean really in theory anyone who was previously in Oasis should get the same as Noel and Liam? Clearly not going to happen though. Out of interest, anyone in the industry have any idea how much Liam and Noel's band members might get paid? I assume it varies wildly depending on the role of the person e.g. Gem is going to get more than the Roxy's. I guess that depends who are "official members"? Is Oasis now simply Liam and Noel, in the official/legal sense? - If so, then I guess they'd get a bigger cut of the gig appearance dough. I'd be be a bit annoyed that was the case and I was Gem. I'd been an official member, got songs I'd written on an few albums and now I'm not actually an official member but part of the reunion. Same goes for Bonehead I guess as far as back but not an official member. I'm sure they'd still get paid well, I'm just curious if they will be official members, or if just Liam and Noel are Oasis. Weren't Gem and Andy Bell only actually considered touring members during the SOTSOG tour and officially joined after, legally speaking?
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Post by mrflibble on Sept 5, 2024 7:40:31 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to know how much other members get. Will they just get touring members pay? I'd imagine that might cause some bad feeling, I mean really in theory anyone who was previously in Oasis should get the same as Noel and Liam? Clearly not going to happen though. Out of interest, anyone in the industry have any idea how much Liam and Noel's band members might get paid? I assume it varies wildly depending on the role of the person e.g. Gem is going to get more than the Roxy's. I think it will depend on who is a business partner and who is just a contracted player. Take Guns N Roses for example, in the early 90's Axl Rose, Duff and Slash were business partners and all had ownership of the the Guns N Roses name. Izzy and Steven Adler were paid off when they left the band, leaving those three as sole owners. The replacements Matt Sorum and Gilby Clarke were hired musicians, as was the keyboard player Dizzy Reed. When the band split, Axl left the partnership, which basically dissolved the business and he then created his own Guns N Roses "business". When they reformed (Axl, Duff and Slash) in 2016, they reformed the partnership. All other musicians that form the current line up of the band are hired musicians and are under contract. The business partner's get a cut of all takings and the other musicians are basically on a salary. I'd imagine Noel and Liam are business partners for the reunion and everyone else will just be under contract.
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