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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 4, 2024 22:04:56 GMT -5
Do you think they announced the reunion last week instead of waiting until Liam has played his last two gigs this year, because they wanted to time it with the Definitely Maybe reissue? If they announced the reunion in time for DM30, they're not using the reunion to its full potential in terms of promoting the reissue. A little clip of both brothers talking about the reissue or just them holding the new vinyl in the camera would have generated a lot of hype and would have pushed sales and streams even more We know from the Riddler that Liam and Noel are (were?) on this forum. Management will definitely be on here. I think that maybe it was pushed forward because it was becoming a bit of an open secret. Just get it out there and let DM soar because of it. They probably would have rather had Liam finish touring - seems weird to have him stil on tour as a solo artist where he will definitely be doing interviews and things, but not having heard from both brothers yet.
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Post by Sadie on Sept 4, 2024 22:25:18 GMT -5
Do you think they announced the reunion last week instead of waiting until Liam has played his last two gigs this year, because they wanted to time it with the Definitely Maybe reissue? If they announced the reunion in time for DM30, they're not using the reunion to its full potential in terms of promoting the reissue. A little clip of both brothers talking about the reissue or just them holding the new vinyl in the camera would have generated a lot of hype and would have pushed sales and streams even more We know from the Riddler that Liam and Noel are (were?) on this forum. Wait seriously? This isn't me trying to slight you or anything btw, genuinely curious!
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Sept 4, 2024 23:23:08 GMT -5
About appreciating they are back and all that. Of course I do. It’s big news and I’m glad about the possibility of seeing them again and the power they are showing.
But at the same time, the way they are dealing with the tickets issue, they are leaving behind the European fans that want to travel to the UK to see them FOR NO REASON. And I cannot understand that.
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Post by darmin on Sept 4, 2024 23:35:49 GMT -5
Robbie W weighed in. Saving it for history
“ For some people, they don’t care SO MUCH about the Oasis reunion that they really need to let you know how much they don’t care by commenting and posting just how much they don’t care. I would like to thank those kind of people for letting us know how little they care. This extends to all subject matters. Not exclusively the Oasis reunion. I mean, how would we know,if you didn’t tell us. “Hey Guys look, some random doesn’t care about stuff’’
What do I think? I think it’s fucking brilliant. I also think it’s fascinating. The soap opera alone will either be exciting and or ghoulish to watch. For start off, how do you insure that tour? Is it uninsurable? And is there a clause for unresolved childhood trauma rearing its head and making the space between and around the boys untenable? Are the insurers rubbing their hands or shitting themselves?
As for the shows? They’re gonna be incredible, off the scale special, the audience will make sure of that, they have pre-booked an experience. And they will do all of the heavy lifting. They ARE the experience. It will be more about the audience than the band and the songs, the band and the songs already did the work. The band could be inanimate objects and it wouldn’t matter.
As ‘Namaste’ as it may sound Oasis getting back together is going to be a healing moment for our country.
Liam Gallagher reading his phone on the toilet would be more charismatic and intriguing than 99.9% of the world’s population at their most enigmatic. All he has to do is stand there and sing for the audience to be guaranteed their money’s worth. Noel will be there too.
NamasteFFS❤️
PS. Oasis are in my new movie. I think they come over well in it. 🙊🙈🐵”
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Post by burnageoasis on Sept 4, 2024 23:49:34 GMT -5
"It needs to be made clear that Oasis leave decisions on ticketing and pricing entirely to their promoters and management." Which means they DID agree on Ticketmaster's dynamic pricing.
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Post by jh on Sept 5, 2024 1:15:35 GMT -5
Robbie W weighed in. Saving it for history “ For some people, they don’t care SO MUCH about the Oasis reunion that they really need to let you know how much they don’t care by commenting and posting just how much they don’t care. I would like to thank those kind of people for letting us know how little they care. This extends to all subject matters. Not exclusively the Oasis reunion. I mean, how would we know,if you didn’t tell us. “Hey Guys look, some random doesn’t care about stuff’’ What do I think? I think it’s fucking brilliant. I also think it’s fascinating. The soap opera alone will either be exciting and or ghoulish to watch. For start off, how do you insure that tour? Is it uninsurable? And is there a clause for unresolved childhood trauma rearing its head and making the space between and around the boys untenable? Are the insurers rubbing their hands or shitting themselves? As for the shows? They’re gonna be incredible, off the scale special, the audience will make sure of that, they have pre-booked an experience. And they will do all of the heavy lifting. They ARE the experience. It will be more about the audience than the band and the songs, the band and the songs already did the work. The band could be inanimate objects and it wouldn’t matter. As ‘Namaste’ as it may sound Oasis getting back together is going to be a healing moment for our country. Liam Gallagher reading his phone on the toilet would be more charismatic and intriguing than 99.9% of the world’s population at their most enigmatic. All he has to do is stand there and sing for the audience to be guaranteed their money’s worth. Noel will be there too. NamasteFFS❤️
PS. Oasis are in my new movie. I think they come over well in it. 🙊🙈🐵” Oh the movie where you're played by a chimp!
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Post by chamu on Sept 5, 2024 1:19:43 GMT -5
"It needs to be made clear that Oasis leave decisions on ticketing and pricing entirely to their promoters and management." Which means they DID agree on Ticketmaster's dynamic pricing. They added they had "at no time had any awareness that dynamic pricing was going to be used" in the sale of tickets for the initial dates.
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Post by burnageoasis on Sept 5, 2024 1:27:19 GMT -5
If it wasn't agreed, they would have sued Ticketmaster for breach of contract. To act like management and band are two different entities not responsible for each other or not acting in the name of the other is beyond ridiculous. If you sign a contract or let someone else sign a contract in your name then you can't pretend to be unaware of the content. Fact: Oasis agreed on dynamic pricing.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 5, 2024 1:44:22 GMT -5
Live 25 Dic pics 26
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Post by Goosey on Sept 5, 2024 2:03:32 GMT -5
Liam started the year off by launching the LG JS project. Released an album, toured it. Toured solo with DM30, and now back in Oasis. What a wild year!
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Post by Tom on Sept 5, 2024 2:26:37 GMT -5
If it wasn't agreed, they would have sued Ticketmaster for breach of contract. To act like management and band are two different entities not responsible for each other or not acting in the name of the other is beyond ridiculous. If you sign a contract or let someone else sign a contract in your name then you can't pretend to be unaware of the content. Fact: Oasis agreed on dynamic pricing. You just said it yourself, "acting in the name of the other". Making the management make a load of uncomfortable (and in this case, stupid and greedy) decisions is literally the reason why bands have a management. The point is to not involve the band in the business side of it.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2024 3:23:47 GMT -5
Im a City fan of 21yrs and even i dont particularly like that….. He's literally wearing a yoga mat. It’s bad. There’s no defending it. But at least it isn’t inspired by a can of Lynx Africa.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 5, 2024 3:31:41 GMT -5
If it wasn't agreed, they would have sued Ticketmaster for breach of contract. To act like management and band are two different entities not responsible for each other or not acting in the name of the other is beyond ridiculous. If you sign a contract or let someone else sign a contract in your name then you can't pretend to be unaware of the content. Fact: Oasis agreed on dynamic pricing. Oasis management: “we can get you £50m each” Noel and Liam: sounds good, we’re off on holidays. We pay you to look after the details. So look after the details. There is absolutely no proof Noel and Liam knew anything about dynamic pricing. Ignition and Live Nation will have been working on the details and Noel and Liam will have signed whatever was put in front of them if their management said it was a good deal. This is a cockup by management but I don’t believe for one second Liam sat down with a big thick contract reading the Ts and Cs. They were told as much as they needed to but it won’t have gone into detail.
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Post by scorpiosonic on Sept 5, 2024 3:40:32 GMT -5
As people, we find it hard to the accept flaws in our heroes
It's the same effect that causes populations to keep voting in leaders who hurt them
The fact is; Oasis have fleeced the fans.
Is it a surprise this has happened, given the entire reunion was influenced by Noel's need for money?
No surprise.
Did they directly pick "Dynamic pricing" out and highlight it and say, we want that? Probably not.
But the managements actions seem 100% aligned with Noel's priority, which goes something like
1. Money for Noel 2. Everything else
All that management have done is carry out the will of the ultimate leader, and that's Noel
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Post by artumlobov on Sept 5, 2024 3:40:59 GMT -5
If it wasn't agreed, they would have sued Ticketmaster for breach of contract. To act like management and band are two different entities not responsible for each other or not acting in the name of the other is beyond ridiculous. If you sign a contract or let someone else sign a contract in your name then you can't pretend to be unaware of the content. Fact: Oasis agreed on dynamic pricing. Oasis management: “we can get you £50m each” Noel and Liam: sounds good, we’re off on holidays. We pay you to look after the details. So look after the details. There is absolutely no proof Noel and Liam knew anything about dynamic pricing. Ignition and Live Nation will have been working on the details and Noel and Liam will have signed whatever was put in front of them if their management said it was a good deal. This is a cockup by management but I don’t believe for one second Liam sat down with a big thick contract reading the Ts and Cs. They were told as much as they needed to but it won’t have gone into detail. The band and management should be aligned but hard to imagine they were. Noel and Liam would have agreed on a price for an amount of gigs. Whoever is managing this is responsible for letting them know what that price entails. I.e. you're getting a lot of money but you risk tanking your image by rippling off your fans. I cannot imagine this would have been put to them because it is just stupid to create this much bad press. Noel and Liam are guilty of being lazy and naïve in relation to what the payday meant. Whoever is managing them are guilty of negligence tbh. I cannot imagine Debbie and co would have spent 7 years rebuilding Liam's image to do this. It stinks of Ignition and Marcus being extremely short sighted as always.
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Post by scorpiosonic on Sept 5, 2024 3:43:05 GMT -5
What I'm waiting for is the moment Liam realises that HE has the power now, and HE is the main star, and I wonder whether he will risk fighting with Noel to take more of the power.
If not, how long can he sit back and watch Noel ruin the Oasis legacy, little by little?
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Post by headshrank on Sept 5, 2024 3:43:06 GMT -5
If it wasn't agreed, they would have sued Ticketmaster for breach of contract. To act like management and band are two different entities not responsible for each other or not acting in the name of the other is beyond ridiculous. If you sign a contract or let someone else sign a contract in your name then you can't pretend to be unaware of the content. Fact: Oasis agreed on dynamic pricing. Oasis management: “we can get you £50m each” Noel and Liam: sounds good, we’re off on holidays. We pay you to look after the details. So look after the details. There is absolutely no proof Noel and Liam knew anything about dynamic pricing. Ignition and Live Nation will have been working on the details and Noel and Liam will have signed whatever was put in front of them if their management said it was a good deal. This is a cockup by management but I don’t believe for one second Liam sat down with a big thick contract reading the Ts and Cs. They were told as much as they needed to but it won’t have gone into detail. exactly this!! it’s like people are expecting liam and noel to have gone thru all the seperate sub-clauses of the contract and everything. if we’re being honest they probably didn’t even know when the tickets would be going on sale or anything until it actually happened. that’s the whole point of managers. the artist can be an artist without having to worry about the business deals and everything
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Post by scorpiosonic on Sept 5, 2024 3:45:15 GMT -5
Oasis management: “we can get you £50m each” Noel and Liam: sounds good, we’re off on holidays. We pay you to look after the details. So look after the details. There is absolutely no proof Noel and Liam knew anything about dynamic pricing. Ignition and Live Nation will have been working on the details and Noel and Liam will have signed whatever was put in front of them if their management said it was a good deal. This is a cockup by management but I don’t believe for one second Liam sat down with a big thick contract reading the Ts and Cs. They were told as much as they needed to but it won’t have gone into detail. The band and management should be aligned but hard to imagine they were. Noel and Liam would have agreed on a price for an amount of gigs. Whoever is managing this is responsible for letting them know what that price entails. I.e. you're getting a lot of money but you risk tanking your image by rippling off your fans. I cannot imagine this would have been put to them because it is just stupid to create this much bad press. Noel and Liam are guilty of being lazy and naïve in relation to what the payday meant. Whoever is managing them are guilty of negligence tbh. I cannot imagine Debbie and co would have spent 7 years rebuilding Liam's image to do this. It stinks of Ignition and Marcus being extremely short sighted as always. Everyone knows Oasis are the people's band - most of all their management. If something as controversial as high ticket prices PLUS dynamic pricing was voted in, they would have certainly considered how Liam and Noel would feel about it, incase things were to go wrong. Scenario planning for the best and worst case is standard management practice. They clearly considered it and had REASON to think it was worth trying to pull it off. Why? What reason could there be? Hmm. I would say the INITIAL TERMS OF AGREEMENT FROM NOEL Aka I will join the band as long as we can make X amount from a tour
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Post by scorpiosonic on Sept 5, 2024 3:46:05 GMT -5
I'm genuinely amazed at how many people are buying the idea that Noel wasn't involved
The wool they're pulling over your eyes is so thin, and still you choose not to see...
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Post by scorpiosonic on Sept 5, 2024 3:47:59 GMT -5
Who has bought Liam's silence? Do we think he's gone quiet on his own, randomly, after 15 years of loud-mouthing on every oasis related issue?
IT'S NOELS TERMS! Money first, everything else after.
Once they've made their bank, they'll make it up to the fans
Watch it happen...
It will leave a sour taste in the mouth for fans
I hope they make it up so much that we forget about this disgraceful start
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Post by AubreyOasis on Sept 5, 2024 3:49:29 GMT -5
Who has bought Liam's silence? Do we think he's gone quiet on his own, randomly, after 15 years of loud-mouthing on every oasis related issue? IT'S NOELS TERMS! Money first, everything else after. Once they've made their bank, they'll make it up to the fans Watch it happen... It will leave a sour taste in the mouth for fans I hope they make it up so much that we forget about this disgraceful start Do you really need 6 posts to make your point, mate?
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Post by LightsOffInside on Sept 5, 2024 3:52:31 GMT -5
I’m taking that statement from them at face value (poor choice of words perhaps but there you go)
It’s done, I no longer care, the chat has become boring, let’s get back to discussing the reunion itself? Is it really our job to find out if the brothers were on board with this? Who cares, they’ve said they weren’t, good enough for me, let’s shut up about it
ANYWAY
I wonder if Noel will break his silence on Matt’s podcast or maybe elsewhere in a joint interview? Either way I am hyped!
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Post by artumlobov on Sept 5, 2024 3:53:19 GMT -5
I'm genuinely amazed at how many people are buying the idea that Noel wasn't involved The wool they're pulling over your eyes is so thin, and still you choose not to see... I have a very poor opinions of Noel's ethics etc but he is too savvy to sign off on this imo. I'm pretty sure he will eventually blame Liam though lol
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Post by noeru on Sept 5, 2024 3:58:39 GMT -5
reunion getting 100% called off because management is highly incompetent instead of NG/LG directly would be funny as hell
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Post by headshrank on Sept 5, 2024 3:58:53 GMT -5
I’m taking that statement from them at face value (poor choice of words perhaps but there you go) It’s done, I no longer care, the chat has become boring, let’s get back to discussing the reunion itself? Is it really our job to find out if the brothers were on board with this? Who cares, they’ve said they weren’t, good enough for me, let’s shut up about it ANYWAY I wonder if Noel will break his silence on Matt’s podcast or maybe elsewhere in a joint interview? Either way I am hyped! i feel like it’s going to have to be a joint interview, to fight the money grabbing accusations haha i think it would be best for them to host a press conference, stone roses style, where they can get all their favourite journalists in and explain how it all came about
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