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Post by shadowplay on Jan 29, 2023 15:06:49 GMT -5
Oasis certainly don't have anything to lose through a reunion. It's not like they quit at their peak like The Smiths or Roses, we remember them at their worst. But that's the hardcore fans point of view. We know that but the general punter on the street will be recalling the peak years and pining for the 90s, oblivious to the endless shitshows of the last number of years. It would have been entertaining if the shows were disastrous and chaotic in a rock n roll way. But they weren't. They were boring, which is the worst insult you can give to any act. That's my main concern about a reunion. I'm not paying good money to hear Liam's voice shot to bits, Noel staring at his shoes for two hours with a face like a smacked arse, and the rest of them going through the motions. The whole experience would be a sluggish chore for band and attendees. Absolute daylight robbery. Agreed 100% and that's why I find it so frustrating that newer and more casual fans are dying for an Oasis reunion tour. Those of us who were there for the latter days know that it'll never be the same again. Noel doesn't write those songs anymore and in terms of live performances it's all about his songs and how his backing band makes those songs sound so good live. For Liam he has improved in recent years but it's been through changing his style of singing and the solo songs being carefully constructed towards his current voice. The band are also a lot quieter than the latter Oasis days which lets him shine, I have no desire to hear him shout his way through a loud Oasis gig again.He does a good job on the old Oasis songs but a lot of them are played half a key down or he sings them flat and just rasps his way through them. He sounds good and much better than 2005-2009 but it's nothing like what he sounded like in the 90's which is what I think people are expecting from an Oasis reunion. Normally I don't comment on things like this so much but I've got a feeling Noel's next album will be an Oasis one just due to circumstance and I'm not as excited as the casual or post 2009 fan would be |
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Post by Sadie on Jan 29, 2023 15:48:15 GMT -5
Oasis certainly don't have anything to lose through a reunion. It's not like they quit at their peak like The Smiths or Roses, we remember them at their worst. But that's the hardcore fans point of view. We know that but the general punter on the street will be recalling the peak years and pining for the 90s, oblivious to the endless shitshows of the last number of years. It would have been entertaining if the shows were disastrous and chaotic in a rock n roll way. But they weren't. They were boring, which is the worst insult you can give to any act. That's my main concern about a reunion. I'm not paying good money to hear Liam's voice shot to bits, Noel staring at his shoes for two hours with a face like a smacked arse, and the rest of them going through the motions. The whole experience would be a sluggish chore for band and attendees. Absolute daylight robbery. Agreed 100% and that's why I find it so frustrating that newer and more casual fans are dying for an Oasis reunion tour. Those of us who were there for the latter days know that it'll never be the same again. Noel doesn't write those songs anymore and in terms of live performances it's all about his songs and how his backing band makes those songs sound so good live. For Liam he has improved in recent years but it's been through changing his style of singing and the solo songs being carefully constructed towards his current voice. The band are also a lot quieter than the latter Oasis days which lets him shine, I have no desire to hear him shout his way through a loud Oasis gig again.He does a good job on the old Oasis songs but a lot of them are played half a key down or he sings them flat and just rasps his way through them. He sounds good and much better than 2005-2009 but it's nothing like what he sounded like in the 90's which is what I think people are expecting from an Oasis reunion. Normally I don't comment on things like this so much but I've got a feeling Noel's next album will be an Oasis one just due to circumstance and I'm not as excited as the casual or post 2009 fan would be No one said they're expecting him to sound like he did in the 90s to be fair, that voice is gone forever unfortunately. I think the main reason people want it isn't really even for new music, it's just the symbolic significance of seeing two brothers come together once again after so many years to show the world why what they had was so special (and from a newer fan's perspective it'd just be cool to say that you've seen them, irrespective of whether they live up to the standard that they once reached or not) |
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Post by nutsngum on Jan 29, 2023 20:19:58 GMT -5
I don't want them to reform as a nostalgia act, I'd rather have a 3rd incarnation of the band. New members, new albums, trying new sounds together. But I know the older they get the chances are more and more slim. If they ever come back together they'll play safe. Hate to break it to you but since the SOTSOG tour they were a nostalgia act... |
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Post by PepsiNebula on Jan 30, 2023 0:27:16 GMT -5
Do we really want a reunion? Seems to me like the moment has passed. They should've done it before Liam went solo and after Noel's second album but now it just seems like they've settled in their own careers and to be honest a new Oasis album could only end up being underwhelming and looking at their bands it'll probably just be NGHFB with Liam on vocals to be honest.That sounds great, though. Is that an argument for or against?  |
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Post by LlAM on Jan 30, 2023 3:52:34 GMT -5
Do we really want a reunion? Seems to me like the moment has passed. They should've done it before Liam went solo and after Noel's second album but now it just seems like they've settled in their own careers and to be honest a new Oasis album could only end up being underwhelming and looking at their bands it'll probably just be NGHFB with Liam on vocals to be honest.That sounds great, though. Is that an argument for or against? Touché!   Easy Now would be epic with Liam - and Noel on backing vocals  |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 30, 2023 14:04:51 GMT -5
The fact is both Noel and Liam are getting older now and an Oasis reunion would have to be done sooner rather than later anyway. But both Noel and Liam are doing just fine as they are without a reunion especially Liam.
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Post by mossy on Feb 6, 2023 10:16:13 GMT -5
Anyway, back on topic, added this nugget to the main post. X |
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 6, 2023 10:32:59 GMT -5
As he approaches 60, is Noel even capable of writing an Oasis record now? Arguable that he wasn’t able to for a long time even while in Oasis. X I don't think it would really be a problem. A lot of early Oasis songs were just pop songs with the guitars turned up to 11 and Noel playing solos. He can still bang some chords together with a chorus, stick some random words to give to Liam. Get Gem or Strangeboy to write guitar solos if need be as that's the only thing Noel stopped writing really. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 6, 2023 13:39:21 GMT -5
As he approaches 60, is Noel even capable of writing an Oasis record now? Arguable that he wasn’t able to for a long time even while in Oasis. X I don't think it would really be a problem. A lot of early Oasis songs were just pop songs with the guitars turned up to 11 and Noel playing solos. He can still bang some chords together with a chorus, stick some random words to give to Liam. Get Gem or Strangeboy to write guitar solos if need be as that's the only thing Noel stopped writing really. You honestly don’t think there’s a difference between Noel’s 90s twenties songwriting and his 00s thirties plus songwriting? I think it’s pretty hard to capture that pre-fame dole magic. I don’t think it is “just pop songs with the guitars turned up to 11” with chords banged together and random words. Personally I dread an Oasis reunion with that level of dedication. X |
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Post by LlAM on Feb 7, 2023 5:24:44 GMT -5
I don't think it would really be a problem. A lot of early Oasis songs were just pop songs with the guitars turned up to 11 and Noel playing solos. He can still bang some chords together with a chorus, stick some random words to give to Liam. Get Gem or Strangeboy to write guitar solos if need be as that's the only thing Noel stopped writing really. You honestly don’t think there’s a difference between Noel’s 90s twenties songwriting and his 00s thirties plus songwriting? I think it’s pretty hard to capture that pre-fame dole magic. I don’t think it is “just pop songs with the guitars turned up to 11” with chords banged together and random words. Personally I dread an Oasis reunion with that level of dedication. X This is exactly why an Oasis reunion is too late in my opinion, especially if there's an album involved. It can only ever be underwhelming, and if they revolutionize it too much it wouldn't be "Oasis" anyway. |
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Post by vespa on Feb 7, 2023 5:34:13 GMT -5
The inevitable will happen , council skies will be Noel’s last solo album for awhile I think as they are getting on abit and the demand for oasis will get to boiling point within the next year , the demand will be too much and the egos will take over . They got to capitalise also on Liams voice recovery he sounds better than he has done for 20 years and Noel will be taking note . For those that bang on about his 90s vocal that Liam vocal lasted about 2/3 years before it changed dramatically . And for those saying it’s be boring I’m pretty sure the tickets would be purchased , im more than intrigued just to how big it would be
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Post by mossy on Feb 7, 2023 10:17:14 GMT -5
Liam’s voice has improved, so Noel will enjoy spending time with him again now, he’s looking forward to all those hours in rehearsals, recording studios, flights, tour buses, hotels, yeah, sure. X
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 7, 2023 13:35:01 GMT -5
Liam’s voice has improved, so Noel will enjoy spending time with him again now, he’s looking forward to all those hours in rehearsals, recording studios, flights, tour buses, hotels, yeah, sure. X Tbh I don't think Liam and Noel ever really worked together at the same time much in the studio. They travelled separately and stayed in different hotels. You'd think Liam would have Debbie with him for most of it too who seems to be able to keep him as calm as humanly possible. For me Liam’s decline was the biggest reason for the tension and anger at the time and Sara and Liam's mutual hatred the reason there hasn't been a sniff from Noel's side until very recently, now those two things are pretty much solved. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 7, 2023 13:46:33 GMT -5
You honestly don’t think there’s a difference between Noel’s 90s twenties songwriting and his 00s thirties plus songwriting? I think it’s pretty hard to capture that pre-fame dole magic. I don’t think it is “just pop songs with the guitars turned up to 11” with chords banged together and random words. Personally I dread an Oasis reunion with that level of dedication. X This is exactly why an Oasis reunion is too late in my opinion, especially if there's an album involved. It can only ever be underwhelming, and if they revolutionize it too much it wouldn't be "Oasis" anyway. Yeah, I agree with you that the time has passed for an Oasis reunion and to be honest I will be surprised if it does happen. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 7, 2023 14:51:25 GMT -5
Liam’s voice has improved, so Noel will enjoy spending time with him again now, he’s looking forward to all those hours in rehearsals, recording studios, flights, tour buses, hotels, yeah, sure. X Tbh I don't think Liam and Noel ever really worked together at the same time much in the studio. They travelled separately and stayed in different hotels. You'd think Liam would have Debbie with him for most of it too who seems to be able to keep him as calm as humanly possible. For me Liam’s decline was the biggest reason for the tension and anger at the time and Sara and Liam's mutual hatred the reason there hasn't been a sniff from Noel's side until very recently, now those two things are pretty much solved. Yeah, they got on swimmingly before Liam’s vocal decline and Sara. X |
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Post by mossy on Feb 23, 2023 10:49:02 GMT -5
Updated the first post following the Jo Whiley interview. He said his next album will be an acoustic one. It will be “very sombre”. He didn’t say it explicitly but pretty much said the album was about his break up with Sara: “As you can imagine, it is not uplifting”. “It’s all written.” 3-5 tracks done. One track has the working title of In A Little While. It is “heartbreaking”. As always, it’s one of the best songs he’s ever written, of course. He might play it at soundchecks on the upcoming tour. 1 hr 17 mins 30 seconds into the interview: redirect.viglink.com/?key=71fe2139a887ad501313cd8cce3053c5&subId=1258801&u=https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001j318So sounds like we’ll be getting Noel’s Sea Change next… X |
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Post by mossy on Jun 3, 2023 2:49:30 GMT -5
I’m trying to figure out which of these tunes made it onto Council Skies and which are still unreleased and so are contenders for the next album:
- A track that uses a 303 bass.
- A song that sounds like Bad by U2.
- A slow trippy dream pop track.
- A song that sounds like Diamond Dogs era Bowie.
I don’t hear a 303 on Council Skies, so think that’s still to be released.
I’m pretty sure the Bad song is on CS but which tune is it? Think Of A Number? Same for the Bowie song.
What do people think?
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Post by lg on Jun 3, 2023 3:39:35 GMT -5
I’m trying to figure out which of these tunes made it onto Council Skies and which are still unreleased and so are contenders for the next album: - A track that uses a 303 bass. - A song that sounds like Bad by U2. - A slow trippy dream pop track. - A song that sounds like Diamond Dogs era Bowie. I don’t hear a 303 on Council Skies, so think that’s still to be released. I’m pretty sure the Bad song is on CS but which tune is it? Think Of A Number? Same for the Bowie song. What do people think? 💿 The slow trippy dream pop track is Dead to the world, isn't it? |
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Post by mossy on Jun 3, 2023 4:17:15 GMT -5
I’m trying to figure out which of these tunes made it onto Council Skies and which are still unreleased and so are contenders for the next album: - A track that uses a 303 bass. - A song that sounds like Bad by U2. - A slow trippy dream pop track. - A song that sounds like Diamond Dogs era Bowie. I don’t hear a 303 on Council Skies, so think that’s still to be released. I’m pretty sure the Bad song is on CS but which tune is it? Think Of A Number? Same for the Bowie song. What do people think? 💿 The slow trippy dream pop track is Dead to the world, isn't it? Hmm I don’t think so. Let me find the original source for that quote, but it was described as sounding like Brian Eno so I don’t think it is DTTW. Edit: Right, the source was the Record Collector interview and the description was by the journalist: ibb.co/L9RtRH6Another song he describes as acoustic with an orchestra coming in sounds more like DTTW, but who knows? Who was the journalist? Maybe we should tweet at him to ask him if all the songs he heard have now been released? 🐥 |
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Post by dadrocker on Jun 3, 2023 10:22:04 GMT -5
Daisies turned into INGUT.
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Post by mossy on Jun 3, 2023 10:30:10 GMT -5
Daisies turned into INGUT. You got any more info on that, or are you speculating? 🌼 |
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 3, 2023 10:49:04 GMT -5
Daisies turned into INGUT. You got any more info on that, or are you speculating? 🌼 I’m Not Giving Up Tonight” “‘I’m Not Giving Up Tonight’ started as a track on Who Built the Moon? called ‘Daisies’ that never went anywhere. It was a bit more electronic and French but I always liked that chord progression. I hammered away at that song for months and months and months and nothing happened. Then one afternoon, I picked up the guitar at home and out came this song. I can’t tell you where these things come from, they just fall out of the sky. It’s a song of defiance, which is why I thought it would be a good opening track. There is absolutely no chance on God’s green Earth that I’m ever going to play it live because it is a fucking bastard to sing. I needed at least 20 takes to do it.” From the album breakdown on Apple Music |
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Post by x123 on Jun 3, 2023 11:14:11 GMT -5
he mentioned love is a rich man being like 80s bowie… assume that’s the “diamond dogs” track
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Post by didthedamage on Jun 3, 2023 11:53:59 GMT -5
Whatever happened to “The Dentist”? From WBTM sessions.
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Post by mossy on Jun 3, 2023 13:06:57 GMT -5
You got any more info on that, or are you speculating? 🌼 I’m Not Giving Up Tonight” “‘I’m Not Giving Up Tonight’ started as a track on Who Built the Moon? called ‘Daisies’ that never went anywhere. It was a bit more electronic and French but I always liked that chord progression. I hammered away at that song for months and months and months and nothing happened. Then one afternoon, I picked up the guitar at home and out came this song. I can’t tell you where these things come from, they just fall out of the sky. It’s a song of defiance, which is why I thought it would be a good opening track. There is absolutely no chance on God’s green Earth that I’m ever going to play it live because it is a fucking bastard to sing. I needed at least 20 takes to do it.” From the album breakdown on Apple Music Thanks hadn’t seen that. Daisies crossed off the list ❌ Shame he won’t play it live though! 😐 |
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