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Post by niftium on Jun 19, 2024 7:12:11 GMT -5
What about Nigel Godrich for the next album? Best thing ever for Noel. Worst thing ever for Nigel. |
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Jun 19, 2024 8:46:52 GMT -5
What about Nigel Godrich for the next album? Best thing ever for Noel. Worst thing ever for Nigel. Nigel would challenge him for sure. |
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Post by 2nz on Jun 19, 2024 15:32:12 GMT -5
But what if he doesn't want to be challenged? What if, god forbid, he liked working this way and enjoyed the output?
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Post by thuperthonic on Jun 19, 2024 18:22:49 GMT -5
Did Nigel challenge Travis?
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Post by ChampagneHypernova on Jun 20, 2024 8:16:02 GMT -5
Did Nigel challenge Travis? Not sure about Travis but Radiohead I think he did. But it's all good if he doesn't want to be challenged or try new sounds. Doesn't mean the next album can't be a very good album if he produces it himself. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 20, 2024 8:52:27 GMT -5
Did Nigel challenge Travis? Not sure about Travis but Radiohead I think he did. But it's all good if he doesn't want to be challenged or try new sounds. Doesn't mean the next album can't be a very good album if he produces it himself. He challenged Pavement and it doesn’t sound like they were up to the task as a whole band. Still an underrated album Twilight Terror. |
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Post by standonit on Jun 20, 2024 9:27:02 GMT -5
Can't see Noel going for someone like Godrich – I think Noel only wants a producer who's been involved in records he really likes, or whose music taste he's into.
He obviously likes Holmes a lot for his music collection (I remember Noel picking tunes for a BBC radio show a few years ago, and lots of it was stuff from a Holmes-produced compilation, when he was playing Morricone and Cher and lots of other psychedelic pop stuff).
I wonder if he'd go for Tony Visconti, if he's into some of his work with Bowie.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 20, 2024 15:05:57 GMT -5
I respectively disagree Noel needs to be “challenged” (disclosure: my favorite songs are DITW, DTTW, TOAN and other Noel ballads).
But he does seem to be in a quandary. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud, but I honestly think linking back up with Liam makes more sense now more than ever. What better voice for a “defiant rock album”
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Post by matt on Jun 20, 2024 17:05:59 GMT -5
Did Nigel challenge Travis? Not sure but its a worthwhile comparison looking at other 'singer-songwriter' acts. I did listen to an interview with Fran Healy where they were in despair making The Invisible Band when the whole band thought 'he thinks everything we've brought to the studio is shite'. They were forced to bring it to a standard he liked. I think it's their best album. Godrich also refused to work on McCartney songs that he didn't like - something that McCartney thought was 'cheeky' but resulted in clearly his best studio album in the last 20 years. Radiohead are studio wizards and a different breed of recording artist so we can exclude them from this discussion. So if it were Godrich producing Noel, he would have a veto on songs and be challenged purely on the song's merits. In many ways, he'd be the ideal producer for Noel. He wouldn't reinvent him or change his style significantly to upset the traditionalists, and the sonic qualities of his albums are always top notch to please audiophiles. Above all, you'd be confident he'd get the best collection of songs available to make everyone happy, and at the very least, would stop crap like The Mexican or Girl With X Ray Eyes finding its way onto an album. But it would take a brave man to point the finger at Noel and say 'that's f**** shit'. At the very least, that's the kick up the arse he needs. |
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Post by neila83 on Jun 20, 2024 21:38:45 GMT -5
Agreed. CS was kinda like that. Someone who does not know where to go. He needs maybe to record somewhere else, not in London. Maybe try again with Owen Morris. No. Owen brick walled already brilliant songs to make them sound huge and was right for them in the 90s. But he’s not a great producer. Very little of what he’s done outside of oasis is any good. Agreed, I'm not sure he actually did any production really did he? He's a mixer, not a producer. Did he have any creative input to Morning Glory or Be Here Now? As far as I can tell it's still basically all Noel. And to be honest he's not even a good mixer. Morning Glory, as Noel himself has said, is awfully mixed and sounds terrible for a record of its importance, but the songs are so good it gets away with it. Be Here Now, again, if I'd mixed that I probably wouldn't put it on my linkedin profile. No idea what he could bring now. Noel needs someone to bring fresh ideas, sounds and influences. Someone like, I don't know, David Holmes. Look what Spike Stent did, whatever you think about SOTSOG, it's BY FAR the best recorded and sounding Oasis album. |
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Post by The Chief on Jun 21, 2024 5:50:26 GMT -5
I respectively disagree Noel needs to be “challenged” (disclosure: my favorite songs are DITW, DTTW, TOAN and other Noel ballads). But he does seem to be in a quandary. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud, but I honestly think linking back up with Liam makes more sense now more than ever. What better voice for a “defiant rock album” I don't think it's a question of him needing to be challenged. If he likes what he does, that's all that counts. I think what we're saying, or at least what I'm saying, is that his music is more interesting when he is challenged and it shows what he's capable of doing. He's capable of painting grandiose painting but he resorts to paint by numbers landscapes. |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 21, 2024 7:06:41 GMT -5
No. Owen brick walled already brilliant songs to make them sound huge and was right for them in the 90s. But he’s not a great producer. Very little of what he’s done outside of oasis is any good. Agreed, I'm not sure he actually did any production really did he? He's a mixer, not a producer. Did he have any creative input to Morning Glory or Be Here Now? As far as I can tell it's still basically all Noel. And to be honest he's not even a good mixer. Morning Glory, as Noel himself has said, is awfully mixed and sounds terrible for a record of its importance, but the songs are so good it gets away with it. Be Here Now, again, if I'd mixed that I probably wouldn't put it on my linkedin profile. No idea what he could bring now. Noel needs someone to bring fresh ideas, sounds and influences. Someone like, I don't know, David Holmes. Look what Spike Stent did, whatever you think about SOTSOG, it's BY FAR the best recorded and sounding Oasis album. Its harsh. Most of the records from the 90s sounds weird now simply because technology has evolved. Literally no one complained back then. it sounded huge on our CD players and Discman. I certainly didn't complain because the gear we had back then almost made those mixes compulsory. Little details stood out from those crappy speakers, crappy headphones so there was really not solution but to put it all to the max. When i get back to a lot of bands from the 90s, their mix are all daft. Sure there was the debut of the loudness war but a lot of britpop bands have albums that sound all over the place if you play them now. There are exceptions of course. Blur records are far more polished, but Stephen Street Its also harsh to call him not a producer. He directed two of the biggest albums of the 90s, saved another. Then Noel decided to take full charge and we got... Heathen Chemistry. As for every piece of history, its never all black and white, its very grey. He has his issues, but he also needs to be appreciated for what he did: which is, capture the greatness of an artist at a given time. That's the job of a producer when an artist is at its peak. Agree though that SOTOSG if the best recorded and sounding Oasis album... technically. |
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Post by matt on Jun 21, 2024 12:16:17 GMT -5
I respectively disagree Noel needs to be “challenged” (disclosure: my favorite songs are DITW, DTTW, TOAN and other Noel ballads). But he does seem to be in a quandary. I can’t believe I’m saying this out loud, but I honestly think linking back up with Liam makes more sense now more than ever. What better voice for a “defiant rock album” I don't think it's a question of him needing to be challenged. If he likes what he does, that's all that counts. I think what we're saying, or at least what I'm saying, is that his music is more interesting when he is challenged and it shows what he's capable of doing. He's capable of painting grandiose painting but he resorts to paint by numbers landscapes.Yes, its all very autopilot with Noel. He can write albums like Council Skies in his sleep, sadly its just not surprising for any one at this stage. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 21, 2024 12:24:44 GMT -5
I think I just really like the Noel self hype he does for the 2 years leading up to us hearing the actual albums. It’s always outrageous descriptions and comparisons. It gets me so pumped even though I know it hardly ever really comes true.
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Post by glider on Aug 27, 2024 19:22:41 GMT -5
Bit misleading, since the next Noel-written album will be an Oasis one.  |
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Post by shannee on Aug 27, 2024 21:48:24 GMT -5
That acoustic album might make same damn fine oasis b-sides
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Post by Terrasolo on Aug 28, 2024 16:49:27 GMT -5
He could easily do both. Oasis being back doesn't exactly mean that Noel is done doing solo stuff. I certainly don't want him to be.
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Post by tiger40 on Aug 28, 2024 17:10:32 GMT -5
He could easily do both. Oasis being back doesn't exactly mean that Noel is done doing solo stuff. I certainly don't want him to be. This is it and the same with Liam too. |
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Post by Derrick on Aug 28, 2024 18:14:33 GMT -5
He could easily do both. Oasis being back doesn't exactly mean that Noel is done doing solo stuff. I certainly don't want him to be. That's what I thought as well, but the huge success of this reunion's announcement makes me wonder if it wouldn't sabotage both brothers' solo careers : Liam wouldn't mind of course, as he always said he preferred being in Oasis than going solo, however if after the Live '25 tour Noel announces he's recording another solo album the pressure against it might be a bit overwhelming, with Oasis fans clamouring for an Oasis album instead & the critics in the press judging Noel's new NGHFB record by gauging what it might've been if Noel had written these songs to be sung by Liam instead for a new Oasis album. Any track deemed weak wouldn't be spared in contrast with his previous albums where people said "here's what he can do on his own since he & Liam are still at war with each other so there's no alternative to this solo stuff". Pursuing a solo career after a highly successful reunion tour might indeed be difficult to justify. |
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Post by Terrasolo on Aug 28, 2024 18:41:27 GMT -5
Liam still has the Squire album in the works, so I for one believe that they’ll both focus on both bands of theirs. I’m happy to have new Oasis albums if that is in the cards, but Noel has been very open about enjoying his solo career more. And neither of them are hurting on their own.
Many bands find time for solo work. But I do think we are all jumping the gun with Oasis being back for good.
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Post by mossy on Aug 29, 2024 8:34:08 GMT -5
The Oasis tour is the best part of a year away. They seriously just gonna sit around twiddling their thumbs in that time?
Noel’s pretty lazy, but really..?
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Post by Jim on Aug 29, 2024 8:37:21 GMT -5
The Oasis tour is the best part of a year away. They seriously just gonna sit around twiddling their thumbs in that time? Noel’s pretty lazy, but really..? Maybe he’ll get the knee surgery and Liam will do the second John Squire album and get the timing right for the tour. |
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Post by shibs on Aug 29, 2024 8:54:36 GMT -5
Hope they're is an new oasis album, but i agree that it'd be good for them to keep their solo stuff too. I'd really like to hear a second liam/squire album.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 29, 2024 8:58:43 GMT -5
The Oasis tour is the best part of a year away. They seriously just gonna sit around twiddling their thumbs in that time? Noel’s pretty lazy, but really..? Maybe he’ll get the knee surgery and Liam will do the second John Squire album and get the timing right for the tour. Noel was on about loads of different holidays in 2024 and he has to get surgery and there’s recovery time involved in that. His studio is closed until January. At which point there’ll be no point starting a new album because he’ll have to go into rehearsals with oasis. If he’s going to play solos again he’s probably going to have to have a longer lead in time to that as well. |
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Post by carlober on Aug 29, 2024 9:54:48 GMT -5
Well, he could always open that sock drawer and release whatever he finds in there.
The AA album? Unreleased demos? Just put it out on digital & limited colored vinyl for a quick cashgrab.
It's not gonna happen though.
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