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Post by deadman on Feb 26, 2023 6:33:00 GMT -5
After all this time I never even bothered adding the most famous cancelled gig for Oasis, the Ferry Incident. With the photo of Noel standing next to a pole advertising gigs, you can see on the far left of the pole you can barely read out 18 and Feb. In Getting High, Paolo mentions the Paradiso being the location of this gig. I believe other places have also backed this up as well.  It was definitely on the 18th. I added some more details on this thread: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/83015/oasis-ferry-amsterdam-1994. The key bits are that Phil Smith says in Supersonic that it was a Thursday over night ferry, so we know the gig was on a Friday. The picture above was taken on the 19th (a Saturday), which would confirm what the poster shows -- the gig was supposed to be on the 18th. Just to put a final note on this, there's actually another, funnier, image from this photoshoot with a clearer image of the poster.  |
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Post by axos on Feb 27, 2023 6:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by jezza2 on Feb 27, 2023 11:23:57 GMT -5
Those are mislabeled! Those are from their show in Berlin on the 14th. There’s a 4 minute clip from a tv station interviewing Noel and it cuts to their Berlin show featuring that black sweater with the yellow stripes on the center. Same as the photos you linked. Hope that helps  Video for anyone wondering: |
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Post by axos on Feb 27, 2023 19:31:53 GMT -5
Thank you for that. I do understand what you’re saying, however the Berlin footage shows Liam wearing a black sweater with those red and yellow lines across the torso of the sweater. The photos on gettyimages show Liam, wearing a black jumper, but no red or yellow stripes in the middle. Instead, this particular jumper has a white trim around the collar at the top, and at the bottom near the waist (with the words “more & more” visible). Still an anomaly nonetheless.
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Post by jezza2 on Feb 27, 2023 19:42:50 GMT -5
Thank you for that. I do understand what you’re saying, however the Berlin footage shows Liam wearing a black sweater with those red and yellow lines across the torso of the sweater. The photos on gettyimages show Liam, wearing a black jumper, but no red or yellow stripes in the middle. Instead, this particular jumper has a white trim around the collar at the top, and at the bottom near the waist (with the words “more & more” visible). Still an anomaly nonetheless. You know what, you're right. It might actually be Bielefeld. It's difficult, Paolo Hewitt claims there was a gig in Munich (though he also stated there was a gig in Bordeaux on the 4th of April which was cancelled), the getty photos (which can sometimes be wrong), even imago claims them as Munich. I can at least pinpoint the month to January thanks to his hair (shorter, beard not as defined in later gigs like in February). A tour itinerary would definitely solve it, but the chances of those popping up are quite rare, and the few that did pop up on ebay recently were not of this era, but nonetheless still very nice to read. |
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 11, 2023 15:40:40 GMT -5
So... Oasis were supposed to be in Australia in January-February of 1995.  If ANYONE knows what dates they were originally supposed to play, let me know! I ask this because I don't really know if some bands skip certain locations for Big Day Out. But if they usually play all of them, let me know. 01/20/1995 - Auckland, Mt Smart Stadium 01/22/1995 - Melbourne, RAS Showgrounds 01/26/1995 - Sydney, RAS Showground 01/29/1995 - Gold Coast, Gold Coast Parklands 02/03/1995 - Adelaide, RAS Showgrounds 02/05/1995 - Perth, Fremantle Oval These gigs would in theory give Oasis a 4 day break between the gig in Perth and their gig in Kawasaki on the 9th. Putting the pieces together, 1 by 1...  |
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 11, 2023 16:07:48 GMT -5
Another post I guess. Looking at older 1994 tour posters with Whiteout, and only one poster seems to have this date: April 9th - Sheffield, Leadmill. The same location was seen in later posters for May 14th. Like the gig in Hull on the 10th, it's possible they had to move these two gigs around, and according to The Adelphi's website, the original date on the 10th was moved to make room for a T.V. appearance.  |
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Post by mahsteve on Mar 24, 2023 6:19:54 GMT -5
In 2000 was there any plan for the band to return to USA for another American tour? On later tours I think they did two legs but I’ll have to check
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 24, 2023 7:58:35 GMT -5
In 2000 was there any plan for the band to return to USA for another American tour? On later tours I think they did two legs but I’ll have to check Im not entirely sure. I don't think so, but I did read that the idea to go back to America to finish the dates that got canceled from the car crash in 2002 was floating around. If they did and it's true, it was supposed to be in January of 2003. Obviously that never happened. A lot of times they did do two legs, strangely this wasn't done for Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants and Heathen Chemistry. |
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Post by mahsteve on Mar 24, 2023 8:35:17 GMT -5
In 2000 was there any plan for the band to return to USA for another American tour? On later tours I think they did two legs but I’ll have to check Im not entirely sure. I don't think so, but I did read that the idea to go back to America to finish the dates that got canceled from the car crash in 2002 was floating around. If they did and it's true, it was supposed to be in January of 2003. Obviously that never happened. A lot of times they did do two legs, strangely this wasn't done for Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants and Heathen Chemistry. Yeah I was thinking of the Standing on the shoulder of giants tour. I wonder if they just thought “let’s just get to the end of the uk festival dates in august 2000 and leave it there” after all the trouble with Noel leaving the tour and the press release about him not touring overseas. |
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 27, 2023 17:54:51 GMT -5
This is a long, annoying post. The long, arduous and reoccurring problem of the January 12th Munich show has now reached a puzzling point. I have collected photos from nearly every concert (bar one night in Ingliston) in January of 1996. Every show has been identified, bar those photos of Liam in the black jumper with white stripes. UTRECHT: Liam wear's a white shirt  MUNICH(?): Liam wears a black jumper with white stripes on the top and bottom. Also has the gold chain he wore in Bielefeld  BERLIN: Liam wears a black jumper with yellow, red and white stripes (There's also pro-shot footage posted earlier)  BIELEFELD: Liam wears a dark button-down shirt with a gold chain. Different from Whitley Bay a few days later  WHITLEY BAY: Liam wears a white shirt, notice there's no chain like in Bielefeld  INGLISTON (NIGHT ?): Liam wears a blue checkered jacket  |
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 28, 2023 21:03:54 GMT -5
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Post by jezza2 on Mar 29, 2023 20:52:26 GMT -5
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Post by oasisunited on Mar 31, 2023 15:16:47 GMT -5
jezza2 More evidence for the cancelled gig in Sydney, Australia in November, 1996: (the end of the ad has the location and date).
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Post by oasisunited on Apr 3, 2023 7:57:20 GMT -5
jezza2 I was looking at Getting High for some other information and stumbled upon this bit where Paolo discusses the Feb/March 1996 USA tour: One of those cancellations is definitely from when Noel walked out after the Whiskey fiasco in 1994. Assuming that Paolo is correct, this could either be the one you have listed in March, 1995 (which I think that we can narrow down to some time between March 21st to the 23rd, as they played Grand Rapids, MI on the 20th and Minneapolis, MN on the 24th) OR during the December 1995 US tour (they played Minneapolis on December 9th before playing again in Toronto on December 14th -- the 4 day gap seems rather large). Interestingly enough, when discussing the March 1995 US tour, Hewitt doesn't mention anything about a cancelled gig. He does recall Liam being hit with a pair of glasses at the gig in Grand Rapids, causing Noel to have to finish the set after Liam walked off after three songs. He goes on to say that they met Nigel Dick for the first time "the next night." Either that is incorrect or the date for the Minneapolis gig is incorrect. It's possible that they played Minneapolis the next night, but its about a nine hour drive from Grand Rapids to Minneapolis.
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Post by jezza2 on Apr 4, 2023 13:00:36 GMT -5
jezza2 I was looking at Getting High for some other information and stumbled upon this bit where Paolo discusses the Feb/March 1996 USA tour: One of those cancellations is definitely from when Noel walked out after the Whiskey fiasco in 1994. Assuming that Paolo is correct, this could either be the one you have listed in March, 1995 (which I think that we can narrow down to some time between March 21st to the 23rd, as they played Grand Rapids, MI on the 20th and Minneapolis, MN on the 24th) OR during the December 1995 US tour (they played Minneapolis on December 9th before playing again in Toronto on December 14th -- the 4 day gap seems rather large). Interestingly enough, when discussing the March 1995 US tour, Hewitt doesn't mention anything about a cancelled gig. He does recall Liam being hit with a pair of glasses at the gig in Grand Rapids, causing Noel to have to finish the set after Liam walked off after three songs. He goes on to say that they met Nigel Dick for the first time "the next night." Either that is incorrect or the date for the Minneapolis gig is incorrect. It's possible that they played Minneapolis the next night, but its about a nine hour drive from Grand Rapids to Minneapolis. I remember reading in either a Melody Maker article online or some other article that the "glasses incident" where someone threw a pair of glasses at Liam was at the Indianapolis (18/3) gig before the Grand Rapids (20/3/) gig, which might've been the catalyst for Liam leaving the gig there. I don't know for sure, I'd have to look back again. In my mind, the St. Louis gig in March of 1995 probably took place on the 22nd. Since it's a long ass drive from Grand Rapids to St. Louis, and another love drive from St. Louis to Minneapolis (also, what a weird tour selection if thats true. Indianapolis-Grand Rapids-St. Louis-Minneapolis-Milwaukee is just a big mess if you follow it). The weird 4 day gap from the 9th to the 13th is an odd one, but I've never heard about that they played somewhere else. Then again, I've always assumed the missing St. Louis gig was during the 1995 Definitely Maybe tour and not the holiday festival tour in December of 1995. |
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Post by oasisunited on Apr 4, 2023 13:43:19 GMT -5
The weird 4 day gap from the 9th to the 13th is an odd one, but I've never heard about that they played somewhere else. Then again, I've always assumed the missing St. Louis gig was during the 1995 Definitely Maybe tour and not the holiday festival tour in December of 1995. On second pass, the gap isn't actually all that weird, as I forgot that they played for MTV in Aspen, Colorado on December 12, 1995. I suspect that there was a multi-day window in case of weather so MTV could reschedule it. |
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Post by jezza2 on Apr 10, 2023 17:46:47 GMT -5
A very, very big thanks to dlgng22 for sending me this information regarding Geneva in 1996. According to the Geneva Arena website, which was dug up via webarchive, Oasis were supposed to play there On September 30th, 1996, which fills in the gap perfectly between the gig at the Bercy on September 29th and Rome on October 2nd. This makes more sense now with Oasis playing Geneva the following tour! web.archive.org/web/20021204010910fw_/http://www.geneva-arena.ch/web/programmation.htm |
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Post by jezza2 on Aug 2, 2023 17:58:39 GMT -5
The most definitive proof that the Munich gig was postponed on the 12th and rescheduled for the 27th.  Bottom left says it all. |
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Post by jezza2 on Aug 5, 2023 17:38:39 GMT -5
It seems every once in a while I find posters that are like finding missing puzzle pieces that you've been looking for ages for. This poster, is yet another piece in solving the mystery of the Japanese/Australian tour in late January-February 1995 that never materialized. This time its February 12th at Osaka's (Im going to assume this because they later played in Osaka in August) Imperial Hall. I just randomly stumbled upon it on gottahaverocknroll.com, an auction website.  And as a cool side note, it looks like tickets for the August Osaka shows went on sale in early July, based on another handout I found on the auction site  |
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Post by jezza2 on Aug 6, 2023 19:56:39 GMT -5
While this may be a small find, the location of the Chicago gig in 1995 that was canceled when Scott McLeod left has been found again. The Riviera Theatre was the location, thanks to this compilation of flyers from the Riviera Theatre Facebook page   |
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Post by jezza2 on Sept 10, 2023 16:10:10 GMT -5
An awesome find on this Sunday, a gig advertisement for gigs at the Liberty Lunch in Austin, Texas in October of 1994... And look who is scheduled for October 8th   |
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Post by jezza2 on Sept 10, 2023 16:41:23 GMT -5
A couple more! First one is an add for Oasis at the Universal Amphitheatre on April 15th that was eventually canceled because of Noel getting the flu. Second one is confirming that they were supposed to play at The Rave/Eagles Ballroom on February 29th.   |
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Post by oasisunited on Sept 11, 2023 7:54:39 GMT -5
An awesome find on this Sunday, a gig advertisement for gigs at the Liberty Lunch in Austin, Texas in October of 1994... And look who is scheduled for October 8th Totally explains why they recorded in Austin at the Congress House Studio on that day -- their gear was already in Austin waiting for Noel to rejoin! Great Find! |
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Post by jezza2 on Oct 17, 2023 17:48:54 GMT -5
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. The mysterious "Copenhagen" location on October 29th, 1995 is now confirmed as The Grey Hall thanks to a Wonderwall Promo Postercard found on the Microdot Boutique website!
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