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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 7, 2022 17:07:05 GMT -5
I know he's only joking but the "My bank account is bigger than yours" shite is grim. Depressingly predictable. In front of a group of pimply, 15 year-old gamers I found it more amusing than usual!
Yeah but it seems like his default position. Shows how just how far he's gone.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Jun 7, 2022 17:11:15 GMT -5
I'm a big Bob Dylan fan and I've been to see him a few times. I've always paid my money having no idea what he's going to play and that he might play well known songs but twist them so out of shape that I don't realise what it is until half way through. He's Bob Dylan, he earnt the right many years ago. He isn't touring for me, he's touring for him and I wouldn't have it any other way. Noel has also earnt the right. I can understand why people might be disappointed but we know the score. Either buy a ticket or don't. I'll be at Glastonbury and if that's the set then I might go elsewhere but Noel should be playing what he wants to play not what people think he should. I understand your stance. I just find it strange. I mean, Bob did Frank Sinatra covers when i went to see him. There is like 30 Bob Dylan songs i want to hear that he didn't play. Hell i even used to be annoyed that Oasis wasted their closing spot with I Am The Walrus over all the songs they never played. I'm not saying i would just do a greatest hits tour but if i had the back catalogue Noel does i'd want to make sure my gig was as engaging and full of energy as it could be. It isn't even just the choice of Oasis songs being the same, it's the way he plays them. They're almost all mid tempo and dare i say it back to being quite plodding. Whatever, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Dead On The Water, the list goes on. I don't think he's an engaging enough frontman nor does he have a good enough voice to just stand there and sing them like that. Alongside mainly WBTM stuff which even the most ardent of fans of that album will admit will never get the crowd engaged, its scandalous to me. There needs to be a few more rocking songs in there. Freeky Teeth and Lord Dont Slow Me down would inject some much needed life inbetween those songs IMO. Haha I love that about Bob! You want Like a Rolling Stone? Well errrrr ummmm I'm just gonna sing this Sinatra song. I take your point that a set can be badly constructed regardless of whether he's playing the tunes you want and you're right it could probably do with a little more tempo.
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Post by Manualex on Jun 7, 2022 19:04:29 GMT -5
I know he's only joking but the "My bank account is bigger than yours" shite is grim. Depressingly predictable.
In front of a group of pimply, 15 year-old gamers I found it more amusing than usual!
What else could be amusing... Doing some fornite dance? 😂 That actually would be cringe.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 7, 2022 21:24:24 GMT -5
In front of a group of pimply, 15 year-old gamers I found it more amusing than usual!
What else could be amusing... Doing some fornite dance? 😂 That actually would be cringe.
Now that I've seen the tickets to Galaverse were $8000, I'm thinking they probably paid him a very nice appearance fee ...
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Post by glider on Jun 8, 2022 1:36:27 GMT -5
While Liam's out here acing 'Roll It Over' and still playing plenty of his own songs, Noel's dragging out 'Wandering Star' 🤨 at summer festivals.
Fact is the album's long overdue, the EPs kept his setlist padded well enough and of course Covid put a wrench into literally everything, but I mean this is literally the exact same kind of setlist as 2019. It's not necessarily because he isn't playing any deep cuts, it's more he's not playing relatively any major new material aside from We're On Our Way Now which is a year old already.
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Post by tcole on Jun 8, 2022 9:34:54 GMT -5
I hope he changes it up for Glastonbury. Great exposure, and if people at home get to watch him doing a proper festival setlist (oasis hits as well as the solo hits) he could really get things back on track.
The way it is right now I can't imagine him being able to do a UK arena tour for album #4, he isn't too far off Beady Eye territory.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 8, 2022 10:02:29 GMT -5
I hope he changes it up for Glastonbury. Great exposure, and if people at home get to watch him doing a proper festival setlist (oasis hits as well as the solo hits) he could really get things back on track. The way it is right now I can't imagine him being able to do a UK arena tour for album #4, he isn't too far off Beady Eye territory. Again what is this back on track nonsense? Did he get knocked off the track? I don’t think I ever expected Noel to launch a UK arena tour. The music world is just shaking off the COVID hangover. His new album is due next spring. Let’s see what happens. He did just have a #1 album last year full of music that already went #1 years prior. He’s doing just fine. You guys act like his last album went in at like #16 and fell off the charts in 3 weeks.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jun 8, 2022 10:41:54 GMT -5
Did anybody spot Noel played a Crypton gaming convention called Galaverse (secretly?) in Malta yesterday? I never expect he would perform in that kind of event! Btw Anais also posted pics in Malta on her Instagram and I don't know whether other personnel traveled with them. Maybe it was not in the name of NGHFB. I know he's only joking but the "My bank account is bigger than yours" shite is grim. Depressingly predictable. There was a time when I thought he was funny but the jokes get old somehow.
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Post by tcole on Jun 8, 2022 14:44:54 GMT -5
I hope he changes it up for Glastonbury. Great exposure, and if people at home get to watch him doing a proper festival setlist (oasis hits as well as the solo hits) he could really get things back on track. The way it is right now I can't imagine him being able to do a UK arena tour for album #4, he isn't too far off Beady Eye territory. Again what is this back on track nonsense? Did he get knocked off the track? I don’t think I ever expected Noel to launch a UK arena tour. The music world is just shaking off the COVID hangover. His new album is due next spring. Let’s see what happens. He did just have a #1 album last year full of music that already went #1 years prior. He’s doing just fine. You guys act like his last album went in at like #16 and fell off the charts in 3 weeks. Well to me Beady Eye were never a band that were "on track", struggling to sell out small capacity venues. Noel is in that spot now whereas a number of years back he was filling pretty large venues. I don't think it's fair to blame covid either since I've not seen any other artists struggling. I guess it's more just hope on my part that he changes up the setlist and adds in more songs the general public know and love as he could very easily turn things around.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 8, 2022 14:56:51 GMT -5
Again what is this back on track nonsense? Did he get knocked off the track? I don’t think I ever expected Noel to launch a UK arena tour. The music world is just shaking off the COVID hangover. His new album is due next spring. Let’s see what happens. He did just have a #1 album last year full of music that already went #1 years prior. He’s doing just fine. You guys act like his last album went in at like #16 and fell off the charts in 3 weeks. Well to me Beady Eye were never a band that were "on track", struggling to sell out small capacity venues. Noel is in that spot now whereas a number of years back he was filling pretty large venues. I don't think it's fair to blame covid either since I've not seen any other artists struggling. I guess it's more just hope on my part that he changes up the setlist and adds in more songs the general public know and love as he could very easily turn things around. Who is blaming COVID? I’m saying he hasn’t done anything basically since the end of 2019. The reason for that, like almost everyone is the pandemic. His next album cycle doesn’t even begin until next year.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jun 8, 2022 15:09:46 GMT -5
Did anybody spot Noel played a Crypton gaming convention called Galaverse (secretly?) in Malta yesterday? I never expect he would perform in that kind of event! Btw Anais also posted pics in Malta on her Instagram and I don't know whether other personnel traveled with them. Maybe it was not in the name of NGHFB. Just saw a few videos on Instagram and I was 'wtf, and outdoor acoustic gig?'. Heard DLBIA, WW, Supersonic and EOTR. Should I dare to look forward this setlist? Perhaps another version of WTSRTS? Nah, he probably opened with its good to be free.
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Post by plaskins1 on Jun 8, 2022 15:11:41 GMT -5
What songs are you dying for him to play that isn’t currently? I’m not sure he is missing much that would make or break a gig. He’s clearly ignoring Chasing Yesterday. See my Glastonbury post on the fact and fiction section.. Just think the set he's playing is a bit too focused on the last LP and EPs, not a true reflection of his solo career?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Jun 8, 2022 16:50:22 GMT -5
What songs are you dying for him to play that isn’t currently? I’m not sure he is missing much that would make or break a gig. He’s clearly ignoring Chasing Yesterday. You Know We Can’t Go Back would go down great at Glasto. I can’t remember exactly how many times I’ve seen Noel. I tend to just go whenever he comes to Ireland. I had a ticket for Sunday but couldn’t make it because it clashed with a photography job I got last minute. Would have been happy with the set list be played.
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Post by damnsasquatch on Jun 8, 2022 23:38:46 GMT -5
Watch this starting at 46:50 and it all makes sense about Noel's feelings about the modern setlist:
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 9, 2022 1:29:00 GMT -5
Watch this starting at 46:50 and it all makes sense about Noel's feelings about the modern setlist:
It won’t satisfy those who think that Noel must either cater to the millions or pack it in… but yeah, makes perfect sense that he’s doing what feels meaningful to him at the moment--because what else does money and fame buy you?--and simply no longer cares about the numbers or the venues or the competition or all the various different things that different people want him to be. It’s a short life and only you can define your happiness. (But of course nobody has to buy tickets to his happiness, either.)
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Post by coolprophet on Jun 9, 2022 8:51:32 GMT -5
Noel has lost it a bit and is probably even more crumpy these days with Liam having the time of his life. Still deep into that Who Built The Moon stuff? Yikes. Good luck playing this set at Glastonbury. Crowd will be already asleep when he plays the first Oasis song. After the past couple of years he should play half the set his solo stuff from all his albums like Back The Way We Came and the other half Oasis classics and some rarities(for the die hards). It be still a top gig without a doubt.
Let's be honest here there were 5-6 decent tunes over the past 5 years or something but the rest is just utter rubbish by his standards. It's A Beautiful World? You gotta be kidding me. I'll have me The Man Who Who Built The Moon, Holy Mountain, Dead In The Water and Fort Knox - but the rest on this LP is beyond average. Yeah we know of course it's just important to "not sound like Oasis". Black Star Dancing and Come On Outside would be nice b-sides but that's it.
Never thought that be possible but I'd have absolutely 0 interest going to a NGHFB gig at the moment. Just hoping at some point he "rediscover" his back catalogue, do some acoustic shows with Gem again and we go on from there.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 9, 2022 10:40:40 GMT -5
Noel has lost it a bit and is probably even more crumpy these days with Liam having the time of his life. Still deep into that Who Built The Moon stuff? Yikes. Good luck playing this set at Glastonbury. Crowd will be already asleep when he plays the first Oasis song. After the past couple of years he should play half the set his solo stuff from all his albums like Back The Way We Came and the other half Oasis classics and some rarities(for the die hards). It be still a top gig without a doubt. Let's be honest here there were 5-6 decent tunes over the past 5 years or something but the rest is just utter rubbish by his standards. It's A Beautiful World? You gotta be kidding me. I'll have me The Man Who Who Built The Moon, Holy Mountain, Dead In The Water and Fort Knox - but the rest on this LP is beyond average. Yeah we know of course it's just important to "not sound like Oasis". Black Star Dancing and Come On Outside would be nice b-sides but that's it. Never thought that be possible but I'd have absolutely 0 interest going to a NGHFB gig at the moment. Just hoping at some point he "rediscover" his back catalogue, do some acoustic shows with Gem again and we go on from there. What songs off his first two records dramatically change the vibe on his festival setlist in 2022? Does adding Everybody’s On The Run, In The Heat of the Moment or Dying of The Light alter much? I don’t think so. I personally heard those songs plenty from 2011 through 2016. I agree he is ignoring Chasing Yesterday too much but he’s still playing the big boys from his debut.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 9, 2022 10:52:36 GMT -5
I think I’d I had to pick songs from his albums I’d like to see live it would be the following
HFB What A Life! (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach
CY Riverman In The Heat of the Moment While The Song Remains The Same You Know We Can’t Go Back Ballad of The Mighty I
MOON Fort Knox Holy Mountain It’s A Beautiful World She Taught Me How To Fly The Man Who Built The Moon
EPs Black Star Dancing Sail On This Is The Place
Randoms Do The Damage Dead On The Water Flying On The Ground
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Post by Rolo on Jun 9, 2022 12:13:25 GMT -5
Noel has lost it a bit and is probably even more crumpy these days with Liam having the time of his life. Still deep into that Who Built The Moon stuff? Yikes. Good luck playing this set at Glastonbury. Crowd will be already asleep when he plays the first Oasis song. After the past couple of years he should play half the set his solo stuff from all his albums like Back The Way We Came and the other half Oasis classics and some rarities(for the die hards). It be still a top gig without a doubt. Let's be honest here there were 5-6 decent tunes over the past 5 years or something but the rest is just utter rubbish by his standards. It's A Beautiful World? You gotta be kidding me. I'll have me The Man Who Who Built The Moon, Holy Mountain, Dead In The Water and Fort Knox - but the rest on this LP is beyond average. Yeah we know of course it's just important to "not sound like Oasis". Black Star Dancing and Come On Outside would be nice b-sides but that's it. Never thought that be possible but I'd have absolutely 0 interest going to a NGHFB gig at the moment. Just hoping at some point he "rediscover" his back catalogue, do some acoustic shows with Gem again and we go on from there. What songs off his first two records dramatically change the vibe on his festival setlist in 2022? Does adding Everybody’s On The Run, In The Heat of the Moment or Dying of The Light alter much? I don’t think so. I personally heard those songs plenty from 2011 through 2016. I agree he is ignoring Chasing Yesterday too much but he’s still playing the big boys from his debut. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks or Stranded On The Wrong Beach would be cool to hear again. Ballad Of The Mighty I should always be in the setlist, one of his best and most epic songs since turning solo. It doesn't really matter what he plays to be fair but the key word is *variety*. Looking at that set it looks like he's still touring Who Built The Moon? which is a 5 year old album. The Oasis songs he picks are really fucking boring as well to be honest. The flow is really odd as well, would be so much better if he shuffled the Oasis in with HFB rather than it being like two separate gigs. I agree with people saying he can play what he wants but as a fan, it's very dull and gives me no incentive to go and see him live any time soon.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 9, 2022 12:31:22 GMT -5
What songs off his first two records dramatically change the vibe on his festival setlist in 2022? Does adding Everybody’s On The Run, In The Heat of the Moment or Dying of The Light alter much? I don’t think so. I personally heard those songs plenty from 2011 through 2016. I agree he is ignoring Chasing Yesterday too much but he’s still playing the big boys from his debut. Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks or Stranded On The Wrong Beach would be cool to hear again. Ballad Of The Mighty I should always be in the setlist, one of his best and most epic songs since turning solo. It doesn't really matter what he plays to be fair but the key word is *variety*. Looking at that set it looks like he's still touring Who Built The Moon? which is a 5 year old album. The Oasis songs he picks are really fucking boring as well to be honest. The flow is really odd as well, would be so much better if he shuffled the Oasis in with HFB rather than it being like two separate gigs. I agree with people saying he can play what he wants but as a fan, it's very dull and gives me no incentive to go and see him live any time soon. I’m one of those odd ball Noel fans. I’d honestly be fine with zero Oasis songs in his set. He’s got such a vast solo catalog now that I’d rather hear more of that stuff. Im also all in on his 2017-2020 output so this set appeals to me. I’m not sure why he doesn’t play more stuff off Chasing Yesterday. That is probably his best overall product between album and touring. I gotta imagine he’s tired of many songs off his debut since so many date back to 2005-2009 Oasis. That is ages ago. At the end of the day none of this matters because I’m not gonna get to see Noel until summer/fall of 2023. The set will be dramatically different.
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 9, 2022 12:59:40 GMT -5
What songs off his first two records dramatically change the vibe on his festival setlist in 2022? Does adding Everybody’s On The Run, In The Heat of the Moment or Dying of The Light alter much? I don’t think so. I personally heard those songs plenty from 2011 through 2016. I agree he is ignoring Chasing Yesterday too much but he’s still playing the big boys from his debut. Of course it would. Everybody's on the Run, Dream On, In the Heat of the Moment, Lock All the Doors, The Dying of the Light, Ballad of the Mighty I, all of these tracks are better and most known than Wandering Star, Rattling Rose and We're On Our Way Now. His powerful set at T in the Park 2015 is a big proof of it.
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 9, 2022 13:35:18 GMT -5
What songs are you dying for him to play that isn’t currently? I’m not sure he is missing much that would make or break a gig. He’s clearly ignoring Chasing Yesterday. You Know We Can’t Go Back would go down great at Glasto. I can’t remember exactly how many times I’ve seen Noel. I tend to just go whenever he comes to Ireland. I had a ticket for Sunday but couldn’t make it because it clashed with a photography job I got last minute. Would have been happy with the set list be played. I absolutely love You Know We Can't Go Back, it's one of my favourites from Noel.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 9, 2022 13:37:08 GMT -5
What songs off his first two records dramatically change the vibe on his festival setlist in 2022? Does adding Everybody’s On The Run, In The Heat of the Moment or Dying of The Light alter much? I don’t think so. I personally heard those songs plenty from 2011 through 2016. I agree he is ignoring Chasing Yesterday too much but he’s still playing the big boys from his debut. Of course it would. Everybody's on the Run, Dream On, In the Heat of the Moment, Lock All the Doors, The Dying of the Light, Ballad of the Mighty I, all of these tracks are better and most known than Wandering Star, Rattling Rose and We're On Our Way Now. His powerful set at T in the Park 2015 is a big proof of it. Like I said prior. Maybe he’s tired of playing songs from an album 8 years ago or a bunch of old Oasis songs like EOTR, Dream On, Lock All The Doors, etc. Who knows. He does seem happy so that is one positive. It’s just festival shows.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 9, 2022 13:37:49 GMT -5
You Know We Can’t Go Back would go down great at Glasto. I can’t remember exactly how many times I’ve seen Noel. I tend to just go whenever he comes to Ireland. I had a ticket for Sunday but couldn’t make it because it clashed with a photography job I got last minute. Would have been happy with the set list be played. I absolutely love You Know We Can't Go Back, it's one of my favourites from Noel. It has good energy. Fast tempo Noel is always good. Can’t stand when he’s mid tempo mode. Boring!!!
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Post by plaskins1 on Jun 9, 2022 14:03:27 GMT -5
I'd love to hear a dream is all I need to get by, but I know that is more for the die hards, but such a great song. Better imo than wondering star and rattling rose?
With regards to the festival sets. Just think he should be playing some more uptempo stuff from Oasis and not SCYHO and HTWA for the millionth time. Maybe She's Electric and Falling Down for e.g.. From HFB I think heat of the moment or BOTMI would go down better than Beautiful world for e.g. guess it's up to the chief what he plays. 😜
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