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Post by modxxii on Jun 7, 2021 1:48:56 GMT -5
As a boomer and a old style fan I would have loved a double A side with We're on our Way and this gem. When The chief finds the melody he has no rivals.
His best song (but I love WAOOW too) since Moon album.
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Post by I Built The Moon on Jun 7, 2021 1:53:47 GMT -5
I think my view on Noel's music has suffered a bit with his staggered EP releases - not that I'm against the concept. Just didn't think it provided enough high points on each release to being the same excitement as a full album (despite there being some crackers on those EPs - Sail on, ADIAINTGB, BMR).
That's in the past now. This song feels like a perfect 'album track' from him, and makes me excited about the next chapter in his career. Can't wait.
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Post by jh on Jun 7, 2021 2:00:32 GMT -5
It's a 7 from me, at least after the first two listens. Weller meets Bacharach played by Ashcroft. I enjoy it as an addition to "The Best Of...", but I'd probably hate it if it was the 1st single from a new "proper" HFB album. Totally agree on the description. It's a nice song but no where near the impact of the last one for me.The sound is superb..strings and vocals...but for me its just a nice summer pop song.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 7, 2021 2:04:59 GMT -5
7/10 nice song but no wonder it’s throwaway. Some comparisons here confused me and made me listen to the early oasis songs(no DM and WTS(MG) bc I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would compare this song to their classic songs). Even their stone roses rip offs sound fresher Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 7, 2021 2:06:42 GMT -5
7/10 nice song but no wonder it’s throwaway. Some comparisons here confused me and made me listen to the early oasis songs(no DM and WTS(MG) bc I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would compare this song to their classic songs). Even their stone roses rip offs sound fresher Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well. I didn't mean it like that, I was just talking about the spirit of it, didn't say it's as good nor that it's talking about the same things, just that it's got that same sense of freedom in a very genuine way
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Post by hasseg on Jun 7, 2021 2:10:41 GMT -5
Not for me.
But I hope it grows.
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Post by andymorris on Jun 7, 2021 2:13:07 GMT -5
7/10 nice song but no wonder it’s throwaway. Some comparisons here confused me and made me listen to the early oasis songs(no DM and WTS(MG) bc I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would compare this song to their classic songs). Even their stone roses rip offs sound fresher Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well. It's the little brother to Going Nowhere. Noel has written songs like that in the past, it's just that they did not belong to Oasis, according to a certain someone in the band. Noel should make his Bacharach album. It was meant to be for the past 20 years. One way road, Going Nowhere, You got the heart of a star, Sitting here, Idler's Dream... It's all there. It's now or never. He can go back to his 80s obsession after that.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jun 7, 2021 2:14:52 GMT -5
Absolutely smashed it with this song. An easy 9 out of 10.
Great vocals, amazing production, and it's different enough but also characteristically Noel (thankfully) without any dull and uninspiring "disco" direction such as we saw on the EP title tracks such as Shit Star Dancing, or bland melodies like Black & White Sunshine. This is melody done RIGHT. I'd say it is more akin to vintage Noel but with an interesting twist and better melodies/production.
This is what we want.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 7, 2021 2:23:37 GMT -5
Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well. I didn't mean it like that, I was just talking about the spirit of it, didn't say it's as good nor that it's talking about the same things, just that it's got that same sense of freedom in a very genuine way I guess I can't quite see them as being the same spirit -- Definitely Maybe to me is just a millimeter to the pop side of punk, not just musically and vocally but in its values, which puts it in an entirely different place from this. But I think maybe I see what you mean about having a freeness to it. Surprised no one is talking about how good the vocal is -- that's something he could not have done in the DM days.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 7, 2021 2:24:58 GMT -5
It's really really good.
How the fuck is he still able to find melodies? And like... really really great melodies!
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Post by andymorris on Jun 7, 2021 2:28:15 GMT -5
It's really really good. How the fuck is he still able to find melodies? And like... really really great melodies! Like they say, they are in the air, you just need to have the connection to grab them.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 7, 2021 2:28:50 GMT -5
Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well. It's the little brother to Going Nowhere. Noel has written songs like that in the past, it's just that they did not belong to Oasis, according to a certain someone in the band. Noel should make his Bacharach album. It was meant to be for the past 20 years. One way road, Going Nowhere, You got the heart of a star, Sitting here, Idler's Dream... It's all there. It's now or never. He can go back to his 80s obsession after that. I'm good with that. But he's going to have dig deeper lyrically if he wants to be Hal David. Unlike some, though, I'm certain that he can. One Way Road already proves it.
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Jun 7, 2021 2:36:33 GMT -5
It's a 6/10 tune. It's ok. Bit too tame maybe. I can hear the Bacharach and the Supremes(ish) influence and that's a good thing. Words are a bit forgettable. In fact I have indeed forgotten them after five or six listens. That might be because I'm old though.
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 7, 2021 2:38:52 GMT -5
It’s like Idlers Dream’s happy brother…
It’s great
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jun 7, 2021 2:54:06 GMT -5
It's too nice!
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Post by carlober on Jun 7, 2021 3:04:36 GMT -5
Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well. It's the little brother to Going Nowhere. Noel has written songs like that in the past, it's just that they did not belong to Oasis, according to a certain someone in the band. Noel should make his Bacharach album. It was meant to be for the past 20 years. One way road, Going Nowhere, You got the heart of a star, Sitting here, Idler's Dream... It's all there. It's now or never. He can go back to his 80s obsession after that. Great comparison. It sounds like a 2021 Going Nowhere. Definitely my favourite Noel track since Sail On.
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Post by Gergely on Jun 7, 2021 3:14:13 GMT -5
This is a really good song. Not top category, but Noel can only "blame himself" for setting the bar very high.
Very good melody, and I love the sound. Not too sure about the lyrics, but who the hell listens to Noel because of the lyrics?
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Post by andymorris on Jun 7, 2021 3:17:29 GMT -5
It's the little brother to Going Nowhere. Noel has written songs like that in the past, it's just that they did not belong to Oasis, according to a certain someone in the band. Noel should make his Bacharach album. It was meant to be for the past 20 years. One way road, Going Nowhere, You got the heart of a star, Sitting here, Idler's Dream... It's all there. It's now or never. He can go back to his 80s obsession after that. I'm good with that. But he's going to have dig deeper lyrically if he wants to be Hal David. Unlike some, though, I'm certain that he can. One Way Road already proves it. I'm not too bothered by shit lyrics overall, mainly because english is not my first language. It's just another instrument to me. Well except if you make lyrics with Schooel and Pooel
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Post by darmin on Jun 7, 2021 3:27:50 GMT -5
Fully agree. It’s got very little in common with the type of energy and themes that defined Definitely Maybe. Which is not a criticism in my mind. It’s not intended to be that sound at all. It's meant to be a lush (it's almost cocktail-swilling elegant in that Bacharach way), retro pop song and it does that very, very well. It's the little brother to Going Nowhere. Noel has written songs like that in the past, it's just that they did not belong to Oasis, according to a certain someone in the band. Noel should make his Bacharach album. It was meant to be for the past 20 years. One way road, Going Nowhere, You got the heart of a star, Sitting here, Idler's Dream... It's all there. It's now or never. He can go back to his 80s obsession after that. Partially agree with you. With every nghfb release it becomes more and more apparent that the oasis’ aesthetics was 80% Liam’s
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Post by andymorris on Jun 7, 2021 3:30:37 GMT -5
It's the little brother to Going Nowhere. Noel has written songs like that in the past, it's just that they did not belong to Oasis, according to a certain someone in the band. Noel should make his Bacharach album. It was meant to be for the past 20 years. One way road, Going Nowhere, You got the heart of a star, Sitting here, Idler's Dream... It's all there. It's now or never. He can go back to his 80s obsession after that. Partially agree with you. With every nghfb release it becomes more and more apparent that the oasis’ aesthetics was 80% Liam’s I'd say this is true after SOTSOG. The first 3, there was little doubt Noel and Liam mostly agreed. Then SOTOSG was a "failure" for being too out there, the other two joined, and that was the end of trying something new. Had SOTSOG succeeded, the Oasis MK 2 would have been way different. I suppose Noel's manager was also a big part of Oasis not evolving.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 7, 2021 3:32:07 GMT -5
Received a mp3 from his offcial store and I'm listening to it for the first time as I type.
I love it.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 7, 2021 3:38:36 GMT -5
I'm good with that. But he's going to have dig deeper lyrically if he wants to be Hal David. Unlike some, though, I'm certain that he can. One Way Road already proves it. I'm not too bothered by shit lyrics overall, mainly because english is not my first language. It's just another instrument to me. Well except if you make lyrics with Schooel and Pooel You seem to have excellent English, whatever your first language might be ... But, a big part of why Bacharach songs transcend most short-lived pop is not just "that Bacharach sound," which is definitely major, but because of Hal David's lyrics, which hit people where they live. I'm actually a big lyrics person, myself, but I don't mind rhyming pool and school at all, especially in a rock ballad. The point behind those lines is simple but poignant and honest, which is why it hit such a chord with people, and it's much harder to do than people think. When it comes to lyrics, Noel gets off too easy. He's not incapable at all. He has written some fine lyrics. He's just a very guarded person. When he lets the guard down, he has things to say.
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Post by darmin on Jun 7, 2021 3:45:20 GMT -5
Partially agree with you. With every nghfb release it becomes more and more apparent that the oasis’ aesthetics was 80% Liam’s I'd say this is true after SOTSOG. The first 3, there was little doubt Noel and Liam mostly agreed. Then SOTOSG was a "failure" for being too out there, the other two joined, and that was the end of trying something new. Had SOTSOG succeeded, the Oasis MK 2 would have been way different. I suppose Noel's manager was also a big part of Oasis not evolving. Nah after 2000s Noel’s aesthetics crept in their catalog, his type of songs was no longer among b sides. But it wasn’t main problem tbh, the problem was quality of some songs... like if all the songs post SOTSOG as good as SCYHO no one here would complain methinks regardless of genres, directions and whatever
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Post by LlAM on Jun 7, 2021 3:47:47 GMT -5
6/10
Very catchy in parts - but disjointed in others. Decent lyrics, nice vocals, nice instrumentation and production. All in all a nice little "above average" tune to promote the compilation.
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Post by liz on Jun 7, 2021 3:51:47 GMT -5
I love it!! 10/10
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