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Post by welshylad on Apr 4, 2024 5:43:13 GMT -5
Surprised no-one has mentioned what Noel said about Kyle from OCG having 3 unreleased songs from 1997 In a nutshell he said he had them on USB but had nothing to play them on , send them to him again on CD (WTF  ) And he isn't interested in hearing them basically Personally I now think Kyle should just release them, Noel (and management) have had them back and done nothing with them, and are not interested. So Get them out there imo  Being discussed in the Morning Sun thread Ah ok i missed that |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 4, 2024 6:29:55 GMT -5
Being discussed in the Morning Sun thread Ah ok i missed that We were supposed to be getting clips from the demos but looks like that fucking idiot who shared stuff on Twitter has probably ruined it for us. |
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Post by sheisloved on Apr 4, 2024 7:50:20 GMT -5
As long as he doesn't go back to anything that sounds like "Who Built the Moon" I'm happy.
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Post by dadrocker on Apr 4, 2024 9:15:02 GMT -5
Bad news - sounds like he's scrapped the acoustic album  not finished the podcast yet but heard that. He might try and repurpose them but sounds like he felt they were too down, too moody. He's starting a new record on Monday which will be a rock record. On the plus side he seems serious - he has the album title and has already shot the album cover (tbf - on his iPhone, but still). Sounds like its a picture of Sonny in a las vegas desert? LOL that didn't last long. I was always more excited about the rock record, but given his rate of follow-through, I'll believe it when I hear it. LOL indeed. This was always coming. There was no way he was going to wallow for YEARS through an acoustic album cycle coming off of Council Skies. And why would he? His headspace is probably miles different now than when he started the acoustic tracks. We should all bloody hope so anyway. If he actually wanted to do it, he had to just fucking record it and release it and get it over with by now. But because it's Noel, he needs a three-year build up and there was no way he was doing that with a sad acoustic album. Why would he want to do interview after interview about that for years again after he's already gone through that with Council Skies? Releasing an EP of six acoustic tunes though? That's a fucking great idea. Get it out there and move on. No need to do a full cycle's worth of interviews about an EP. Just a quick two or three in major pubs saying "this is what the fans have been asking for forever" and get back to recording and get the rock album out as quickly as possible, because that'll sell more gigs and such then a sad lad. He's not going to playing Carnegie Hall and mope about by himself with an acoustic guitar like somebody else does. Viva la more upbeat music! Hooray! |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Apr 4, 2024 9:15:48 GMT -5
Seen a post on Oasis mania on Facebook saying Noel said on the podcast he's scrapping the acoustic album to concentrate on a rock n roll album can anyone confirm this, also what platform does the podcast stream on as I'm not sure where to look
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Post by welshylad on Apr 4, 2024 9:17:14 GMT -5
As long as he doesn't go back to anything that sounds like "Who Built the Moon" I'm happy. Same here |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Apr 4, 2024 9:31:16 GMT -5
Did Noel actually confirm on the podcast he's going to release an EP with the acoustic songs instead? Or is that just speculation here
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Post by yellowd00d on Apr 4, 2024 9:45:35 GMT -5
Podcast is available on Matt Morgans patreon.
Noel said he'd scrapped the acoustic album after recording about 6 songs. He did say that they might come out as an EP but I think that was him talking about possibilities rather than solidly made plans.
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Post by carlober on Apr 4, 2024 9:55:25 GMT -5
Podcast is available on Matt Morgans patreon. Noel said he'd scrapped the acoustic album after recording about 6 songs. He did say that they might come out as an EP but I think that was him talking about possibilities rather than solidly made plans. If he's spent time recording those songs, why not putting them out as an EP? Digital + "limited" overpriced coloured vinyl. Easy money. |
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Post by Firefly on Apr 4, 2024 11:15:20 GMT -5
For the people with questions and no access to the podcast, I was going back over it to check about the EP thing and then my other half offered to type out a transcript of the bit where he talks about it, my typing is rubbish. So hopefully that's allowed here. If not mods please delete. Just thought people would appreciate the info.
Noel: By the way, I’ve scrapped the acoustic album finally, can’t fucking do it anymore. Yeah, it got six tunes in, and I was so bored with the arrangement of it all and the kind of slow pace of it all and, actually what made me think, right fuck it, I’m not doing it, is they’re all songs about a broken heart, that kind of thing, and I thought nah. It started to sound like Council Skies without the string arrangement, do you know what I mean. It was the same kind of vibe or mood shall we say. I think it’s time to make a defiant rock record which is what I’m gonna start when I get back [from the Maldives]
Matt: Could you repurpose those songs?
Noel: Yes. Let’s put it this way none of them are gonna go on this new record I’m starting on Monday. They’re just - it’s the wrong - I had the idea of instead of making an album, maybe doing a couple of EPs, do you know what I mean, and putting them out. It was too down. Acoustic tunes tend to be quite down and I think Council Skies had a bit of that to it, bit of a mood to it and I was like, no that took me fucking two years to make that record in that head space and I need to make a defiant rock record and that’s what I’m gonna do. Sorry everyone. I do apologise if anyone had their hearts set on it.
Matt: When you say defiant rock record, are we talking…no electronic stuff…
Noel: No, I’ve got an idea of how I’m going to approach it. I’ve got a lot of songs as you know yourself. I’ve got a LOT of songs and Council Skies, I would say, was the best - not the best - but it had three different things to it: there was kind of uplifting accousticy things, there was a bit of melancholy to it and there was a bit of like, you know, rock and roll pop music to it. And so that was an overall - I think it’s the best High Flying Birds album and actually it’s the first album I’ve made bar Definitely Maybe that I would say that is perfect. Every record I make tends to have some flaw to it that I think, right I’ll fix that next time, there’s something I don’t like about it. Well, I’m still listening to Council Skies and going it’s fucking perfect. There’s nothing I could take away or add to that to make it any better than what it is. So I’m gonna make a - all Marshall amps. That’s what I’m doing.
Matt: In terms of back catalogue what would be the landmark that you - cos when you say raucous rock -
Noel: No, it’s not - listen - it’s not Bring It On Down. I’m fucking 57 this year, do you know what I mean. It’s not like, I’m not gonna be fucking writing Welcome To The Jungle, you know.
Matt: I’d love it if you did that.
Noel: Be more like -
Matt Welcome to the Rotisserie in Waitrose...
[bit of laughing and joking around about that]
Noel: I’ve already got the title. Something to do with Eastbound and Down that none of you have got yet. And I’ve already shot the cover [when he was in Vegas with the kids, he took a pic of Sonny standing on a rocky hill]
Matt: When will that [rock album] be out.
Noel: I don’t know. Let me see where we end up. By the time I get to the end of this year and I finish touring after August…so in my head now if I could demo it all by the end of the year or start to record it proper by the end of the year, could be… dunno…not next year cos then I’d have to go back out on tour next year and I’m not doing that. 2026 maybe?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 4, 2024 11:27:39 GMT -5
For the people with questions and no access to the podcast, I was going back over it to check about the EP thing and then my other half offered to type out a transcript of the bit where he talks about it, my typing is rubbish. So hopefully that's allowed here. If not mods please delete. Just thought people would appreciate the info. Noel: By the way, I’ve scrapped the acoustic album finally, can’t fucking do it anymore. Yeah, it got six tunes in, and I was so bored with the arrangement of it all and the kind of slow pace of it all and, actually what made me think, right fuck it, I’m not doing it, is they’re all songs about a broken heart, that kind of thing, and I thought nah. It started to sound like Council Skies without the string arrangement, do you know what I mean. It was the same kind of vibe or mood shall we say. I think it’s time to make a defiant rock record which is what I’m gonna start when I get back [from the Maldives] Matt: Could you repurpose those songs? Noel: Yes. Let’s put it this way none of them are gonna go on this new record I’m starting on Monday. They’re just - it’s the wrong - I had the idea of instead of making an album, maybe doing a couple of EPs, do you know what I mean, and putting them out. It was too down. Acoustic tunes tend to be quite down and I think Council Skies had a bit of that to it, bit of a mood to it and I was like, no that took me fucking two years to make that record in that head space and I need to make a defiant rock record and that’s what I’m gonna do. Sorry everyone. I do apologise if anyone had their hearts set on it. Matt: When you say defiant rock record, are we talking…no electronic stuff… Noel: No, I’ve got an idea of how I’m going to approach it. I’ve got a lot of songs as you know yourself. I’ve got a LOT of songs and Council Skies, I would say, was the best - not the best - but it had three different things to it: there was kind of uplifting accousticy things, there was a bit of melancholy to it and there was a bit of like, you know, rock and roll pop music to it. And so that was an overall - I think it’s the best High Flying Birds album and actually it’s the first album I’ve made bar Definitely Maybe that I would say that is perfect. Every record I make tends to have some flaw to it that I think, right I’ll fix that next time, there’s something I don’t like about it. Well, I’m still listening to Council Skies and going it’s fucking perfect. There’s nothing I could take away or add to that to make it any better than what it is. So I’m gonna make a - all Marshall amps. That’s what I’m doing. Matt: In terms of back catalogue what would be the landmark that you - cos when you say raucous rock - Noel: No, it’s not - listen - it’s not Bring It On Down. I’m fucking 57 this year, do you know what I mean. It’s not like, I’m not gonna be fucking writing Welcome To The Jungle, you know. Matt: I’d love it if you did that. Noel: Be more like - Matt Welcome to the Rotisserie in Waitrose... [bit of laughing and joking around about that] Noel: I’ve already got the title. Something to do with Eastbound and Down that none of you have got yet. And I’ve already shot the cover [when he was in Vegas with the kids, he took a pic of Sonny standing on a rocky hill] Matt: When will that [rock album] be out. Noel: I don’t know. Let me see where we end up. By the time I get to the end of this year and I finish touring after August…so in my head now if I could demo it all by the end of the year or start to record it proper by the end of the year, could be… dunno…not next year cos then I’d have to go back out on tour next year and I’m not doing that. 2026 maybe? 2026!!! Better get those acoustic EPs out to bridge the time lapse. |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Apr 4, 2024 11:29:55 GMT -5
Noel: No, it’s not - listen - it’s not Bring It On Down. I’m fucking 57 this year, do you know what I mean. Thanks for the typing / sharing, mucho gracias. My quoted portion, while its an obvious comment I am not claiming any kind of special insight, is almost identical to a post I wrote on the HFB thread in December (!) live4ever.proboards.com/post/1735526/thread"Noel's 56, he is set in his ways and we are not going to get A) experimentalism, B) an album of fast, youthful tunes like Bring it on Down |
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Post by dampcottage on Apr 4, 2024 12:08:10 GMT -5
Watched eastbound and down about a month ago,the only thing that stuck out was-"the future will look better tomorrow"- might have been brighter rather than better-anyway it stuck in my head cause it sounds noely as fuck so thats my guess for the title
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Post by mattcox048 on Apr 4, 2024 12:25:41 GMT -5
How many scrapped projects and backward steps is it now?
It's frustrating being a Noel fan.
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 4, 2024 13:08:08 GMT -5
For the people with questions and no access to the podcast, I was going back over it to check about the EP thing and then my other half offered to type out a transcript of the bit where he talks about it, my typing is rubbish. So hopefully that's allowed here. If not mods please delete. Just thought people would appreciate the info. Noel: By the way, I’ve scrapped the acoustic album finally, can’t fucking do it anymore. Yeah, it got six tunes in, and I was so bored with the arrangement of it all and the kind of slow pace of it all and, actually what made me think, right fuck it, I’m not doing it, is they’re all songs about a broken heart, that kind of thing, and I thought nah. It started to sound like Council Skies without the string arrangement, do you know what I mean. It was the same kind of vibe or mood shall we say. I think it’s time to make a defiant rock record which is what I’m gonna start when I get back [from the Maldives] Matt: Could you repurpose those songs? Noel: Yes. Let’s put it this way none of them are gonna go on this new record I’m starting on Monday. They’re just - it’s the wrong - I had the idea of instead of making an album, maybe doing a couple of EPs, do you know what I mean, and putting them out. It was too down. Acoustic tunes tend to be quite down and I think Council Skies had a bit of that to it, bit of a mood to it and I was like, no that took me fucking two years to make that record in that head space and I need to make a defiant rock record and that’s what I’m gonna do. Sorry everyone. I do apologise if anyone had their hearts set on it. Matt: When you say defiant rock record, are we talking…no electronic stuff… Noel: No, I’ve got an idea of how I’m going to approach it. I’ve got a lot of songs as you know yourself. I’ve got a LOT of songs and Council Skies, I would say, was the best - not the best - but it had three different things to it: there was kind of uplifting accousticy things, there was a bit of melancholy to it and there was a bit of like, you know, rock and roll pop music to it. And so that was an overall - I think it’s the best High Flying Birds album and actually it’s the first album I’ve made bar Definitely Maybe that I would say that is perfect. Every record I make tends to have some flaw to it that I think, right I’ll fix that next time, there’s something I don’t like about it. Well, I’m still listening to Council Skies and going it’s fucking perfect. There’s nothing I could take away or add to that to make it any better than what it is. So I’m gonna make a - all Marshall amps. That’s what I’m doing. Matt: In terms of back catalogue what would be the landmark that you - cos when you say raucous rock - Noel: No, it’s not - listen - it’s not Bring It On Down. I’m fucking 57 this year, do you know what I mean. It’s not like, I’m not gonna be fucking writing Welcome To The Jungle, you know. Matt: I’d love it if you did that. Noel: Be more like - Matt Welcome to the Rotisserie in Waitrose... [bit of laughing and joking around about that] Noel: I’ve already got the title. Something to do with Eastbound and Down that none of you have got yet. And I’ve already shot the cover [when he was in Vegas with the kids, he took a pic of Sonny standing on a rocky hill] Matt: When will that [rock album] be out. Noel: I don’t know. Let me see where we end up. By the time I get to the end of this year and I finish touring after August…so in my head now if I could demo it all by the end of the year or start to record it proper by the end of the year, could be… dunno…not next year cos then I’d have to go back out on tour next year and I’m not doing that. 2026 maybe? Thanks for posting. Whatever Noel plans to do with his next album (rock or not, as he might change his mind again) I'm looking forward to it. As for the acoustic songs I hope that he does release them on an EP at some point. |
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Post by Adam on Apr 4, 2024 14:39:28 GMT -5
At the very least, he won’t need to worry about b-sides for the next album!
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Apr 4, 2024 14:45:07 GMT -5
Real bummer…I’ll bet there’s another “Sail On” or “Talk Tonight” in there and we may never hear it.
I guess just pray for b-sides…in 2026 <sigh>
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Post by spaneli on Apr 4, 2024 15:20:58 GMT -5
For the people with questions and no access to the podcast, I was going back over it to check about the EP thing and then my other half offered to type out a transcript of the bit where he talks about it, my typing is rubbish. So hopefully that's allowed here. If not mods please delete. Just thought people would appreciate the info. Noel: By the way, I’ve scrapped the acoustic album finally, can’t fucking do it anymore. Yeah, it got six tunes in, and I was so bored with the arrangement of it all and the kind of slow pace of it all and, actually what made me think, right fuck it, I’m not doing it, is they’re all songs about a broken heart, that kind of thing, and I thought nah. It started to sound like Council Skies without the string arrangement, do you know what I mean. It was the same kind of vibe or mood shall we say. I think it’s time to make a defiant rock record which is what I’m gonna start when I get back [from the Maldives] Matt: Could you repurpose those songs? Noel: Yes. Let’s put it this way none of them are gonna go on this new record I’m starting on Monday. They’re just - it’s the wrong - I had the idea of instead of making an album, maybe doing a couple of EPs, do you know what I mean, and putting them out. It was too down. Acoustic tunes tend to be quite down and I think Council Skies had a bit of that to it, bit of a mood to it and I was like, no that took me fucking two years to make that record in that head space and I need to make a defiant rock record and that’s what I’m gonna do. Sorry everyone. I do apologise if anyone had their hearts set on it. Thanks for this transcript! This is me speculating, of course, but considering Noel really dislikes any songs hitting too close to home, I wonder if these acoustic songs were more autobiographical in nature. I read him not wanting to stay in the same headspace, but wanting to make a DEFIANT rock album, as him saying, I'm tired of thinking about the divorce (with it seeping into my songwriting) and I want to move on. |
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Post by matt on Apr 4, 2024 16:48:57 GMT -5
Acoustic album wasn't fussed over but a rock album excites me even less. When you hear stuff like Lock All The Doors and You Know We Can't Go Back it's like..... what's the point? I can hear better, more raucous songs in that vein from 20 years previously and it's not serving any purpose aside from repeating old tricks but sounding a hell of a lot more tired. And clean. Too clean.
Sure, if he turns the guitars up to 11, runs reckless with reverb and gets Liam to sing, then I'm on board.
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Post by Goosey on Apr 4, 2024 17:06:21 GMT -5
… dunno…not next year cos then I’d have to go back out on tour next year and I’m not doing that. 2026 maybe? This is the bit that annoys me. I never really believed he would do an acoustic album, so not too disheartened by that being “scrapped”. But this is so frustrating. Why can’t he just record and release an album without touring? I thought the whole point of building the studio was to increase his output? Well it seems totally pointless if we’re going to get the same 3-4 year release gaps (if he says 2026 then it will be 2027). Coldplay released Ghost Stories in 2014, didn’t tour it.. then released that Head Full Of Dreams album the following year and toured that. If Noel did something similar he can play tunes from both albums giving everyone more songs to hear live for the first time. And at 57 he is more than justified not touring. The Beatles stopped in their 20’s! Its either a dogmatic view. Or an excuse to not to release stuff. Thanks for writing it all down by the way! |
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Post by lalaland on Apr 4, 2024 18:37:40 GMT -5
For the people with questions and no access to the podcast, I was going back over it to check about the EP thing and then my other half offered to type out a transcript of the bit where he talks about it, my typing is rubbish. So hopefully that's allowed here. If not mods please delete. Just thought people would appreciate the info. Noel: By the way, I’ve scrapped the acoustic album finally, can’t fucking do it anymore. Yeah, it got six tunes in, and I was so bored with the arrangement of it all and the kind of slow pace of it all and, actually what made me think, right fuck it, I’m not doing it, is they’re all songs about a broken heart, that kind of thing, and I thought nah. It started to sound like Council Skies without the string arrangement, do you know what I mean. It was the same kind of vibe or mood shall we say. I think it’s time to make a defiant rock record which is what I’m gonna start when I get back [from the Maldives] Matt: Could you repurpose those songs? Noel: Yes. Let’s put it this way none of them are gonna go on this new record I’m starting on Monday. They’re just - it’s the wrong - I had the idea of instead of making an album, maybe doing a couple of EPs, do you know what I mean, and putting them out. It was too down. Acoustic tunes tend to be quite down and I think Council Skies had a bit of that to it, bit of a mood to it and I was like, no that took me fucking two years to make that record in that head space and I need to make a defiant rock record and that’s what I’m gonna do. Sorry everyone. I do apologise if anyone had their hearts set on it. Thanks for this transcript! This is me speculating, of course, but considering Noel really dislikes any songs hitting too close to home, I wonder if these acoustic songs were more autobiographical in nature. I read him not wanting to stay in the same headspace, but wanting to make a DEFIANT rock album, as him saying, I'm tired of thinking about the divorce (with it seeping into my songwriting) and I want to move on. Here's me speculating as well... By the sounds of it, Noel's got a new girlfriend now. So to him, releasing an album full of songs that were written during the breakdown of his last marriage, during the divorce etc might not make much sense to him as he's personally moved on from that and so I guess he wouldn't want to release and perform songs that remind him of those difficult, unhappy times ... |
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Post by welshylad on Apr 5, 2024 3:43:06 GMT -5
Thanks for this transcript! This is me speculating, of course, but considering Noel really dislikes any songs hitting too close to home, I wonder if these acoustic songs were more autobiographical in nature. I read him not wanting to stay in the same headspace, but wanting to make a DEFIANT rock album, as him saying, I'm tired of thinking about the divorce (with it seeping into my songwriting) and I want to move on. Here's me speculating as well... By the sounds of it, Noel's got a new girlfriend now. So to him, releasing an album full of songs that were written during the breakdown of his last marriage, during the divorce etc might not make much sense to him as he's personally moved on from that and so I guess he wouldn't want to release and perform songs that remind him of those difficult, unhappy times ... Yeh he's got a new girlfriend called Sally apparently. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Apr 5, 2024 4:03:49 GMT -5
I just don't think he should force a "sound" for an album. What's wrong with having an album with lots of variation, lots of the best albums do jump around.
An acoustic album would probably be dull if it was all Noel on his acoustic strumming away but there's lots of ways he could add variation to the songs. Dead to the World is an acoustic song to me.
I'm not sure what Noel means by doing a Rock album. Rock 'n' Noel doesn't work if he's thinking songs like The Mexican and Lock all the doors are Rock.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 5, 2024 5:10:14 GMT -5
Here's me speculating as well... By the sounds of it, Noel's got a new girlfriend now. So to him, releasing an album full of songs that were written during the breakdown of his last marriage, during the divorce etc might not make much sense to him as he's personally moved on from that and so I guess he wouldn't want to release and perform songs that remind him of those difficult, unhappy times ... Yeh he's got a new girlfriend called Sally apparently. Nah that’s bollocks. The Sun had an article last year about Noel having a girlfriend called Sally. Apparently that isn’t her real name but I’d say Matt and Noel just ran with it to try and get the papers to print it. They regularly say shit to try and get the journalists who listen to the pod to print random nonsense. It’s being going on for years.Matt was vox popped by Q years again after a gig in Amsterdam and he gave some pretentious dismissive review of the gig and they printed it. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 5, 2024 5:32:11 GMT -5
Yeh he's got a new girlfriend called Sally apparently. Nah that’s bollocks. The Sun had an article last year about Noel having a girlfriend called Sally. Apparently that isn’t her real name but I’d say Matt and Noel just ran with it to try and get the papers to print it. They regularly say shit to try and get the journalists who listen to the pod to print random nonsense. It’s being going on for years.Matt was vox popped by Q years again after a gig in Amsterdam and he gave some pretentious dismissive review of the gig and they printed it. And they all did, of course. Quotes are all over the usual suspects (Sun, Mail etc.) If I had to guess though I'd say he's got someone, she's just not called Sally |
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not finished the podcast yet but heard that. He might try and repurpose them but sounds like he felt they were too down, too moody. He's starting a new record on Monday which will be a rock record.
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