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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 22, 2019 15:29:33 GMT -5
So I'm bored and was looking for the thread relating to the split [if someone could link it to me...?) and found this post which was locked. Originally posted by someone called The Messenger:
16 Jan 2008 at 12:21am
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Post by themessenger on 16 Jan 2008 at 12:21am
i live in LA and my studio is hosting oasis' mixing sessions. my boss knows im a fan and invited me for a listen. the even made me empty my pockets before they played it! i couldnt help jotting down an few things to share tho! (tracklisting may not be exact - i was too excited to remember)
Boy with the Blues: Mostly acoustic, a rarity for this album. Written by Liam, but Gem will probably end up with a credit on the album as well. Quite similar to “The Meaning of Soul”. This will be the opening single.
Sweet and Sour: Written by Gem. One of the many tracks held back from the DBTT sessions. The outro actually features a Liam/Noel/Gem harmony.
To Love True Love: The first Noel song on the record, written and sung. Will most likely end up as a single. Includes the lyric, “If there’s a God, He will be crashing when you burn. But that’s to love true love, true love”. Very compelling string section to this one.
Stop The Clocks: The long awaited song comes to fruition. It’s much shorter than initially expected, clocking in a just over 4 minutes. The song is as good as advertised. The lyrics leaked previously are in fact correct. But it is strange to see 2 noel-sung songs at #3 and #4 on the tracklisting.
The Magic Can’t Be Right: Noel penned, Liam vocals. Steers the album away from the “big orchestra” sound for a moment and gets back to 5-piece rock and roll.
Guess I’m Out of Time: Written and sung by Liam. String-oriented and just flat out trippy. Within you / Without you – escque. Hypnotizing.
Evil Eye: The third Liam-penned track of the record. It’s a big, magical song that’s heavy on the organs, strings and horns. Opening lyric is a sneering, “Don’t give me that evil eye / It’s not very wise”. The song inspired the following Liam quote, "There's lots of cool parts, man. Really, we're throwing everything at it. It's gonna be cool, man."
A Ballad for Lovers: Andy’s only appearance as a songwriter on the record. The only other all-acoustic song on the record (with Boy with The Blues). Placed here, it almost works as an epilogue for the tidal wave that is “Evil Eye”. Liam vocals doubled over beautiful piano riffs and cascading acoustic guitars.
Let It Come Down Over Me: Another Noel written, Liam sungs tune. Was initially slated to be the final track on DBTT, until Sardy convinced Noel to re-work Let There Be Love.
I Want to Live in a Dream with my Record Machine: No surprises here. Noel written and sung, complete with 3 guitar solos. Liam actually appears on this track, you can make his voice in the chanting backing vocals on the outro.
It was outed as bullshit, but there are some things on here which are interesting. Let me just start out by saying I have been an Oasis fan for a lot longer than I have been active on here. So I am assuming a lot of knowledge here. Some of these tracks may have been known about, in the same way that we know about 'Slow' or 'The Red, White and Blue' amongst others.
Evil Eye, I'm Outta Time and Boy With The Blues. Surely he was onto something? We know that the album took a swerve and was more 'Groove based' after a few weeks recording.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 22, 2019 16:27:09 GMT -5
I miss the troll fantasy album posts with each new album cycle.
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Post by matt on Jun 22, 2019 16:53:12 GMT -5
I remember this. webm@ster compiled a whole lot of them and had a thread about it back in 2008, with fake artwork and everything. Of course, the post by The Messenger is all bullshit - don’t see anything that would suggest any insight.... All these songs had been circulating in forums due to mentions of them in the media, with some tidbits from Noel on what direction the album may take in the prior years. Add all that together, use your imagination and you get a cocktail of shit from forum users. 11 years ago though... terrifying how quick that went. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 17:44:00 GMT -5
Sweet and Sour sounds like a belter.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 22, 2019 17:48:42 GMT -5
A clever mix of using songs names and soundcheck lyrics dropped over the years prior to DOYS. Nothing new was written above. No reason to believe it was ever genuine.
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Post by matt on Jun 22, 2019 17:53:06 GMT -5
A clever mix of using songs names and soundcheck lyrics dropped over the years prior to DOYS. Nothing new was written above. No reason to believe it was ever genuine. Yeah, both brothers had been mentioning these songs for a good couple of years. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 22, 2019 18:47:04 GMT -5
A clever mix of using songs names and soundcheck lyrics dropped over the years prior to DOYS. Nothing new was written above. No reason to believe it was ever genuine. Yeah, both brothers had been mentioning these songs for a good couple of years. On the flip side, I remember the first gig for DOYS in August 2008. It was in front of like 200 people and they played DOYS from start to finish over the PA before the show began. Someone on this forum went and wrote about the tunes and how Bag It Up had the "I got my hee-bee-jee-bees in a hidden bag" line and we all thought it was kinda bullshit. Then again why would anyone make up that shit? It sounded awful. Luckily it worked for the song. |
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Post by bt95 on Jun 23, 2019 5:34:21 GMT -5
Always find it weird to think that DOYS wouldn't even have had TSOTL on it if it had gone through as originally planned.
Noel wrote that song during the sessions, but imagine that album without that lead single. Genuinely can't think which song would have replaced it.
It's a strange album for me, because I think the first half is up there with some of the best Oasis stuff (the first four songs are just great).
I like TBWTL, too, but they just never came close to capturing how big it should have been on the record. Live, they absolutely nailed it.
I just always tend to switch off after Falling Down but actually on the rare occasions I listen to it all the way through, it's a bloody good album.
But yeh, back to my original point, God help it if Noel hadn't written TSOTL!
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Post by thomuk2006 on Jun 23, 2019 6:28:56 GMT -5
Always find it weird to think that DOYS wouldn't even have had TSOTL on it if it had gone through as originally planned. Noel wrote that song during the sessions, but imagine that album without that lead single. Genuinely can't think which song would have replaced it. It's a strange album for me, because I think the first half is up there with some of the best Oasis stuff (the first four songs are just great). I like TBWTL, too, but they just never came close to capturing how big it should have been on the record. Live, they absolutely nailed it. I just always tend to switch off after Falling Down but actually on the rare occasions I listen to it all the way through, it's a bloody good album. But yeh, back to my original point, God help it if Noel hadn't written TSOTL! The Turning? would have been a great first single... |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 23, 2019 7:21:53 GMT -5
Always find it weird to think that DOYS wouldn't even have had TSOTL on it if it had gone through as originally planned. Noel wrote that song during the sessions, but imagine that album without that lead single. Genuinely can't think which song would have replaced it. It's a strange album for me, because I think the first half is up there with some of the best Oasis stuff (the first four songs are just great). I like TBWTL, too, but they just never came close to capturing how big it should have been on the record. Live, they absolutely nailed it. I just always tend to switch off after Falling Down but actually on the rare occasions I listen to it all the way through, it's a bloody good album. But yeh, back to my original point, God help it if Noel hadn't written TSOTL! The first single was gong to be Come On It’s Alright (aka Come Outside). Noel shelved it once be wrote TSOTL. He later claimed Liam never had time to do the vocals. Come On bro! That’s hard to believe. Also Noel wrote Falling Down in the studio as well. This would be the second straight album where two of the big singles weren’t originally on the album at all. DBTT had this issue with Lyla and Idle being added at the very very end when their executives felt the album had no drawing cards. |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jun 23, 2019 7:25:13 GMT -5
Thread reminded me of this. Such a cool way to album launch & preview tracks.
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Post by bt95 on Jun 23, 2019 7:28:47 GMT -5
Always find it weird to think that DOYS wouldn't even have had TSOTL on it if it had gone through as originally planned. Noel wrote that song during the sessions, but imagine that album without that lead single. Genuinely can't think which song would have replaced it. It's a strange album for me, because I think the first half is up there with some of the best Oasis stuff (the first four songs are just great). I like TBWTL, too, but they just never came close to capturing how big it should have been on the record. Live, they absolutely nailed it. I just always tend to switch off after Falling Down but actually on the rare occasions I listen to it all the way through, it's a bloody good album. But yeh, back to my original point, God help it if Noel hadn't written TSOTL! The Turning? would have been a great first single... I love that song but no way mate. Ask most even casual Oasis fans and they won't know the song. No way it could have been a lead single on an Oasis album. TSOTL - like Lyla - grabs people. It's punchy and has a great chorus. I love the Turning and probably prefer it as a song, but wouldn't have worked as a lead single imo. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 23, 2019 8:04:09 GMT -5
Apologies ... was a bit naive there then haha. A few of those I know have been circulating for years (God help us all, STC and RM) but I thought I'm Outta Time was new and had no idea we knew about Evil Eye years before.
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Post by nightglory on Jun 23, 2019 8:58:34 GMT -5
I know Bag It Up is not that popular but still it's the last Oasis anthem to me. And keep growing after all these years. I remember hearing it for the first time back in 2008. Quite something.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 23, 2019 13:03:07 GMT -5
Apologies ... was a bit naive there then haha. A few of those I know have been circulating for years (God help us all, STC and RM) but I thought I'm Outta Time was new and had no idea we knew about Evil Eye years before. Evil Eye was first mentioned by Liam in an issue of NME in late 2006. He even mentioned part of the lyrics. Outta Time was also at least 1.5 years prior to DOYS coming out. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 13:07:12 GMT -5
Swap Record Machine and Come on Outside with Ain't got nothin and The nature of reality then you get the best Oasis album since the 90s.
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 23, 2019 13:14:48 GMT -5
Apologies ... was a bit naive there then haha. A few of those I know have been circulating for years (God help us all, STC and RM) but I thought I'm Outta Time was new and had no idea we knew about Evil Eye years before. Evil Eye was first mentioned by Liam in an issue of NME in late 2006. He even mentioned part of the lyrics. Outta Time was also at least 1.5 years prior to DOYS coming out. I remember the first Boy With The Blues mention was from Courtney Love in the NME around the DBTT era as she had been hanging out with Liam (Lord knows what they were doing together). Overall that tracklist was obviously done by some sad bastard and a load of bollocks. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 23, 2019 16:25:14 GMT -5
Swap Record Machine and Come on Outside with Ain't got nothin and The nature of reality then you get the best Oasis album since the 90s. If I had a dime for every time that was mentioned here on this forum I’d be a very rich man. |
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Post by Manualex on Jun 23, 2019 16:30:10 GMT -5
Swap Record Machine and Come on Outside with Ain't got nothin and The nature of reality then you get the best Oasis album since the 90s. If I had a dime for every time that was mentioned here on this forum I’d be a very rich man. |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 23, 2019 17:39:33 GMT -5
Swap Record Machine and Come on Outside with Ain't got nothin and The nature of reality then you get the best Oasis album since the 90s. If I had a dime for every time that was mentioned here on this forum I’d be a very rich man. Or if i had a dime for every time you say you'd been to Terminal 5... |
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Post by matt on Jun 23, 2019 17:51:10 GMT -5
Swap Record Machine and Come on Outside with Ain't got nothin and The nature of reality then you get the best Oasis album since the 90s. It escapes me - was Record Machine recorded for this album bar Liam’s vocals? Not too fussed about Record Machine (but damn sight better though than AGN and NOR) but I still cannot understand the stupidity of everyone involved in not getting superior songs on the album. Love that driving riff of Come On Outside especially, and with Liam’s vocals, it would have been many people’s favourite on the album. It also shows the incompetence of Ignition and Marcus Russell too. Any savvy industry person or major record label would be giving hell for leather in getting such quality onto an album. A major record company would have sent the final album back and told them to finish it. That Noel moans about lack of album sales yet flogged an unfinished fully priced album to fans without any hint of irony is laughable. It’s these kind of practices from major acts that contributes to the killing of an album as an art form, not just the digital era. |
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Post by matt on Jun 23, 2019 17:54:52 GMT -5
Always find it weird to think that DOYS wouldn't even have had TSOTL on it if it had gone through as originally planned. Noel wrote that song during the sessions, but imagine that album without that lead single. Genuinely can't think which song would have replaced it. It's a strange album for me, because I think the first half is up there with some of the best Oasis stuff (the first four songs are just great). I like TBWTL, too, but they just never came close to capturing how big it should have been on the record. Live, they absolutely nailed it. I just always tend to switch off after Falling Down but actually on the rare occasions I listen to it all the way through, it's a bloody good album. But yeh, back to my original point, God help it if Noel hadn't written TSOTL! The first single was gong to be Come On It’s Alright (aka Come Outside). Noel shelved it once be wrote TSOTL. He later claimed Liam never had time to do the vocals. Come On bro! That’s hard to believe. Also Noel wrote Falling Down in the studio as well. This would be the second straight album where two of the big singles weren’t originally on the album at all. DBTT had this issue with Lyla and Idle being added at the very very end when their executives felt the album had no drawing cards. Imagine Don’t Believe The Truth without Lyla and Importance of Being Idle. What a disaster that album would have been. |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 23, 2019 19:00:38 GMT -5
Can confirm this post was in fact totally true and I too was invited to this sesh. I managed to write down all the words to Sweet and Sour too. Here they are for anyone who wants them:
It's Quarter to six
It's time to get my fix
Of a spare rib or three
You wanna spare rib with me?
I'm gonna grab a fork
For some Hong Kong pork
Or a chicken ball or three
You wanna chicken ball with me?
Oh its been an hour
I can hear a ring at the door
Oh its sweet and sour
It's my Chinese meal for four
Oh yeah its sweet and sour
Oh yeah its sweet and sour
Oh yeah its sweet and sour
(Was still better than High Horse Lady IMO)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 5:14:10 GMT -5
You can tell Gem wrote that
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 24, 2019 5:28:03 GMT -5
Swap Record Machine and Come on Outside with Ain't got nothin and The nature of reality then you get the best Oasis album since the 90s. It escapes me - was Record Machine recorded for this album bar Liam’s vocals? Not too fussed about Record Machine (but damn sight better though than AGN and NOR) but I still cannot understand the stupidity of everyone involved in not getting superior songs on the album. Love that driving riff of Come On Outside especially, and with Liam’s vocals, it would have been many people’s favourite on the album. It also shows the incompetence of Ignition and Marcus Russell too. Any savvy industry person or major record label would be giving hell for leather in getting such quality onto an album. A major record company would have sent the final album back and told them to finish it. That Noel moans about lack of album sales yet flogged an unfinished fully priced album to fans without any hint of irony is laughable. It’s these kind of practices from major acts that contributes to the killing of an album as an art form, not just the digital era. Cos Noel wasnt overly fussed about them being Oasis songs because he knew he could just use them for his solo work. |
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