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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 10:17:35 GMT -5
When I took away quite a bit from "Part of the Queue", I discovered that somehow it had hidden the beautiful percussion you could barely, just barely make out. Piano at the end of the track is more wide now. Bass was double layered. Vocals were also thickened to not just the center channel, but left and right channel because of these double layers. At the end of the track, you could make out Zak thumping-- THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP(!). That was new to me, I had never heard that before. Oh, and it was also compressed, and amplified to shit. "Part of the Queue" when you take away a few bits here and there is essentially just stripped back. It's actually much more better for it. I appreciate your effort with both doing these and explaining your rationale for certain changes. That said... Part of The Queue has lost it's warmth and low end almost entirely in your mix. I can't imagine that would sound great on small speakers at all. it would be extremely whiny I'd think. For me that simply doesn't work for the song. I've always thought that Part of the Queue was the one song from Don't Believe the Truth that got mixed appropriately though, so maybe I'm biased in that regard. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jan 11, 2019 7:45:07 GMT -5
When I took away quite a bit from "Part of the Queue", I discovered that somehow it had hidden the beautiful percussion you could barely, just barely make out. Piano at the end of the track is more wide now. Bass was double layered. Vocals were also thickened to not just the center channel, but left and right channel because of these double layers. At the end of the track, you could make out Zak thumping-- THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP(!). That was new to me, I had never heard that before. Oh, and it was also compressed, and amplified to shit. "Part of the Queue" when you take away a few bits here and there is essentially just stripped back. It's actually much more better for it. I appreciate your effort with both doing these and explaining your rationale for certain changes. That said... Part of The Queue has lost it's warmth and low end almost entirely in your mix. I can't imagine that would sound great on small speakers at all. it would be extremely whiny I'd think. For me that simply doesn't work for the song. I've always thought that Part of the Queue was the one song from Don't Believe the Truth that got mixed appropriately though, so maybe I'm biased in that regard. I completely understand, mate. The purpose of the mix for 'Part of the Queue' is to show what the track sounds like at face value without the obvious over-amplification, and over-distortion of the on-going and penned "loudness war" that seems to never die down. When I posted 'Part of the Queue', it was honestly just to see what a consensus (you guys) would think about having a stripped back Oasis track. At this point in time, 'Part of the Queue' is just an example at best. Is it a final remix of the track? It isn't. I never even began to do anything about the Oasis catalogue. Don't plan to any time soon as I'm currently in it with NGHFB #1. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jan 12, 2019 7:58:03 GMT -5
"If I Had a Gun..." is a track that just did not receive that great of a mixing on the mixing board. I tried for three and half months straight to figure out just how I can make everything sound softer, without the mix punching you in the face like the original mix by David Sardy does. I'll use the word 'pungent' because that word is valid for the original mix. The electric guitar from Miles Kane is downright laid down dirty, no post-mixing or real-time mixing done, just recorded, thrown in and never EQ'd or anything like that. The drum are soft, but they're not as soft as you'd like. For this, wet-mixing was good enough to soften those snares and clashes, and the ride symbal. The acoustic guitar track that Noel laid down is pretty loud as well, but again, wet-mixing saves this one. I'll stress it again, three and a half months, I've been working at this. And all I had to do was some simple wet-mixing! Wet-mixing sounds kind of like this. (Lower the volume to where you can barely hear it)
It was thanks to that clip of Noel soundchecking "Just Let It Come Down Over Me" that I managed to kind of soften "If I Had a Gun..." through wet-mixing. And it's safe to say at this point, David Sardy doesn't know how to apply a varnish over mixes, so to speak. Compression did kill this track, but it works with wet-mixing. And I really, really, REALLY hope you guys like it. I'm going crazy here, and some of the responses from you guys seem to be still positive. So to recap, to me: The guitar by Miles Kane - sounds fatter, better and sounds like it fits now without that one note droning through-out. It still drones annoyingly, but it works. Has that romantic, faint but heart-felt touch it was supposed to have. The acoustic guitar by Noel is somewhat softer. It's not totally out of the clear, but bless Noel, he still did good for this one. The drums seem softer instead of sounding like Jeremy pounding at it like his life depended on it. So they fit, too. Bass is decreased quite a bit here. In the original mix, the compression over-amplified the bass and overall, was the main culprit for ruining the track in the first place. It's dialed down quite a bit now, to say the least. Take this mix with a grain of salt. Enjoy x |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jan 12, 2019 9:04:42 GMT -5
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Post by Flashbax on Jan 12, 2019 9:06:06 GMT -5
"If I Had a Gun..." is a track that just did not receive that great of a mixing on the mixing board. I tried for three and half months straight to figure out just how I can make everything sound softer, without the mix punching you in the face like the original mix by David Sardy does. I'll use the word 'pungent' because that word is valid for the original mix. The electric guitar from Miles Kane is downright laid down dirty, no post-mixing or real-time mixing done, just recorded, thrown in and never EQ'd or anything like that. The drum are soft, but they're not as soft as you'd like. For this, wet-mixing was good enough to soften those snares and clashes, and the ride symbal. The acoustic guitar track that Noel laid down is pretty loud as well, but again, wet-mixing saves this one. I'll stress it again, three and a half months, I've been working at this. And all I had to do was some simple wet-mixing! Wet-mixing sounds kind of like this. (Lower the volume to where you can barely hear it)
It was thanks to that clip of Noel soundchecking "Just Let It Come Down Over Me" that I managed to kind of soften "If I Had a Gun..." through wet-mixing. And it's safe to say at this point, David Sardy doesn't know how to apply a varnish over mixes, so to speak. Compression did kill this track, but it works with wet-mixing. And I really, really, REALLY hope you guys like it. I'm going crazy here, and some of the responses from you guys seem to be still positive. So to recap, to me: The guitar by Miles Kane - sounds fatter, better and sounds like it fits now without that one note droning through-out. It still drones annoyingly, but it works. Has that romantic, faint but heart-felt touch it was supposed to have. The acoustic guitar by Noel is somewhat softer. It's not totally out of the clear, but bless Noel, he still did good for this one. The drums seem softer instead of sounding like Jeremy pounding at it like his life depended on it. So they fit, too. Bass is decreased quite a bit here. In the original mix, the compression over-amplified the bass and overall, was the main culprit for ruining the track in the first place. It's dialed down quite a bit now, to say the least. Take this mix with a grain of salt. Enjoy xThank you so much for this! Sounds much better. I really don't understand why Noel wanted drums on this song. With a little more work, and released under the Oasis name, this song would be a giant hit. |
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Post by jupi on Jan 12, 2019 15:17:41 GMT -5
So to recap, to me: The guitar by Miles Kane - sounds fatter, better and sounds like it fits now without that one note droning through-out. It still drones annoyingly, but it works. Has that romantic, faint but heart-felt touch it was supposed to have. The acoustic guitar by Noel is somewhat softer. It's not totally out of the clear, but bless Noel, he still did good for this one. The drums seem softer instead of sounding like Jeremy pounding at it like his life depended on it. So they fit, too. Bass is decreased quite a bit here. In the original mix, the compression over-amplified the bass and overall, was the main culprit for ruining the track in the first place. It's dialed down quite a bit now, to say the least. Take this mix with a grain of salt. Enjoy xI've liked all of your mixes and enjoyed this one too. It sounds more of a band playing together instead of a bunch of musicians having a competition who can play loudest over a soft ballad as it is on the album. It also feels like the vocals sit in the mix a bit better! But what what I loved the most was turning down the drums - now their entrance and the fill at 3:10 don't sound as brutal as on the record. Keep up the good work! |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jan 17, 2019 4:34:54 GMT -5
So this goes without saying that for now, since I've delivered "If I Had a Gun" in what I think it should sound like. I think I will stop the posts for now, and think on what I will do with the rest of the album. A good majority of the remixes are out there in the YouTube videos I posted. 3 of them (or 4?) are out there now, and 1 is unlisted. That's essentially half of the album remixed. Will be turning my focus to some other things for now, as I am moving to a new place very soon. But I will not forget!
Now onward to my favourite NGHFB1 track, "Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks"! See you guys soon.
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Post by Wandering Moon on Jan 19, 2019 2:10:03 GMT -5
Good God that's a great mix. Everything seems involved and it takes me to another place.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 12, 2019 11:15:29 GMT -5
Been taking a look at the Don't Believe the Truth Sessions...
The "session versions" of the tracks for Don't Believe the Truth, although recorded in mono, are pretty interesting now in stereo. I've applied whatever I have done in the past to these demos, in a small effort to restore them, and they sound great in full stereo. "Eyeball Tickler" basically sounds like a nice little garage demo, and the demo for "Stop the Clocks" when brought back to stereo-land, sounds basically like a finished track. Guess Noel wasn't kidding when he said several mixes, and different demos were done for the track, and in several more different keys. I believe at this point, "Stop The Clocks" was finished, mixed and was to be properly included as a b-side before the release of DBTT, but then omitted at the very, very last second when someone here in the forum retrieved them, LOL.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 14, 2019 8:51:29 GMT -5
The demo for Eyeball Tickler.
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Post by Wandering Moon on Feb 15, 2019 23:20:37 GMT -5
How are you so good at this???
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 20, 2019 7:17:40 GMT -5
Once again, I present to you, "AKA... Broken Arrow".
So, from the documentary was Noel's count-in. I added that. Guitar is much clearer. The saw is much more clearer. The glasses added by Dave are clearer. Drums that had much of that thump are lessened. Bass from old compression has been dialed back a bit. Noel's vocals fit more snug now. And the upright bass that was done for this is also not overblown now. I hope you guys enjoy this one!
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 20, 2019 7:42:28 GMT -5
How are you so good at this??? Hi, I also finished "AKA... Broken Arrow". |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Feb 22, 2019 6:15:03 GMT -5
I unfortunately have some sad news. It is quite embarassing, but I've fallen into some unfortunate times at this current moment. I think I will be inactive for a long time, and will probably post far less than often. So the sessions project will have to come to a halt until further notice. Whatever is uploaded onto YouTube will just stay up as an example of what can be done with just pure instinct in sound, and know-how if you know how to put your mind to it.
I am very saddened that I won't be able to finish any of the projects that I had originally planned on.
Those plans included taking on the entire Oasis catalogue, which will have included every collected demo and alternate mixes provided by the lovely sources generous enough to provide them in the past.
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds debut is still great in the 2011 mixes, granted they are still stuffy in their current form, but nonetheless, they are great tracks. When I was to be finished- I was going to compile all and do exactly what I had planned for the NGHFB debut for Chasing Yesterday, too.
So that just brings me great sadness even more so. I deeply, deeply apologize to the community for not being able to give back in some nice little re-mixing of said tracks I have been putting out lately.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Feb 22, 2019 9:42:14 GMT -5
Nothing to apologize for pal. What you've produced is really great and we all appreciate it. Hope you manage to sort things out  |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Dec 23, 2019 8:14:04 GMT -5
It's been almost an entire year, 10 months to be exact, since I last brought up wanting to re-mix this album into a Sessions album. And that's still my intention.
I'm happy to let you all know that I'm in a much better place than I was almost a year ago. Granted, that only meant some thing's needed to change a year ago.
I've had 10 months to digest the mixes I've done so far, and I'm confident I can do them even better this time around. Which begs the question, do I leave them as-is and include them when the newer remixes are done, AND leave them in the newer sequence? Time will tell, but when the time comes when this project is completed, then that's entirely up to the state of the new sequence.
I have this project, and 8 more audio projects to work on. And to take on these projects, I will need an old friend and some handy work to make it all come together. I've been home visiting family for the holiday's, and I actually found my old laptop from when I was 18.
2013 was the year we got the announcement for Chasing Yesterday.
My point is, this project is still alive. And I intend to finish it. It needs to be finished. As of yet, there is no Definitive Sessions album for the original High Flying Birds Sessions.
There will be sessions.
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on May 8, 2020 2:41:55 GMT -5
It took a while, but I'm happy to share that I have recently purchased a new laptop. I am back to a happier and more comforting state at the moment, and as I have recently acquired a new laptop, I figure during all this quarantine time, I better use it to get back to work.
Starting with newer mixes of all 10 tracks from the debut.
On July 18 2020, I will drop each and every track at once and make them readily available to listen to same day as when I drop them for everyone at Sour Mash Recordings, Ltd. So that means, they won't quite be ready and out of the oven until July 18 2020 arrives.
As for the B-sides, instrumentals, and demos, those will drop at a later date. But I do intend to release the new mixes in one collection once restoration of the demos is completed. The instrumentals are a tad trickier to deal with as they are fine as-is, but I reckon I could make something happen.
I also intend to look further into possibly reinvigorating the 'Don't Believe the Truth Sessions' and maybe doing something like what Idledreamer once did with the his wonderful Redux mixes.
Before I ramble on, I better end it here. See ya later x
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Post by megyesitomate on May 8, 2020 3:33:00 GMT -5
It took a while, but I'm happy to share that I have recently purchased a new laptop. I am back to a happier and more comforting state at the moment, and as I have recently acquired a new laptop, I figure during all this quarantine time, I better use it to get back to work. Starting with newer mixes of all 10 tracks from the debut. On July 18 2020, I will drop each and every track at once and make them readily available to listen to same day as when I drop them for everyone at Sour Mash Recordings, Ltd. So that means, they won't quite be ready and out of the oven until July 18 2020 arrives. As for the B-sides, instrumentals, and demos, those will drop at a later date. But I do intend to release the new mixes in one collection once restoration of the demos is completed. The instrumentals are a tad trickier to deal with as they are fine as-is, but I reckon I could make something happen. I also intend to look further into possibly reinvigorating the 'Don't Believe the Truth Sessions' and maybe doing something like what Idledreamer once did with the his wonderful Redux mixes. Before I ramble on, I better end it here. See ya later x Looking forward to it! It will be an excellent birthday present. |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on May 25, 2020 13:13:41 GMT -5
Hello all,
Been hard at work hardly working (IMO anyway, to me it's just fun), and I've been messing around with AKA... What a Life! It's going to be another unlisted video, but it'll be worth it. Trust me. Been working on this one for 2 days. I hope you guys like it, and I hope it gives you a better idea as to what you might be looking forward to. It's the rough version of the near final mix that I've been working on, and I've barely touched the instrumental track of it.
Look out for it...
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on May 25, 2020 13:21:24 GMT -5
Here it is...
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Post by Supersonic on May 25, 2020 13:57:22 GMT -5
These are all brilliant, thank you for these! By the way, what program do you use to do this? |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on May 25, 2020 14:12:20 GMT -5
These are all brilliant, thank you for these! By the way, what program do you use to do this? I use Audacity, and all too well apparently, since it's the only program I'm really familiar with. And thank you! |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jun 9, 2020 23:26:11 GMT -5
Little bit of an update. Some of the editing/remixing is taking a bit longer than expected. "Everybody's On the Run" has taken me about 5 weeks (or so) to get the perfect 'noise floor'. But it is one track so far, and I am close to being done with the track. I know, right? Another "Everybody's On the Run" mix. I swear, this one is loads better. Gives a better idea of what the track is supposed to sound like as opposed to being a compressed to hell track like on the album.
I like it. I hope you will like it. The 18th can't come soon enough.
By the way, did you guys enjoy the isolated vocal for "Dead In The Water"? Let me know.
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 10, 2020 14:09:48 GMT -5
Little bit of an update. Some of the editing/remixing is taking a bit longer than expected. "Everybody's On the Run" has taken me about 5 weeks (or so) to get the perfect 'noise floor'. But it is one track so far, and I am close to being done with the track. I know, right? Another "Everybody's On the Run" mix. I swear, this one is loads better. Gives a better idea of what the track is supposed to sound like as opposed to being a compressed to hell track like on the album. I like it. I hope you will like it. The 18th can't come soon enough. By the way, did you guys enjoy the isolated vocal for "Dead In The Water"? Let me know. Will there be download links? Looking forward to this!! |
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Post by Tales from The Mighty I on Jun 11, 2020 6:48:23 GMT -5
Little bit of an update. Some of the editing/remixing is taking a bit longer than expected. "Everybody's On the Run" has taken me about 5 weeks (or so) to get the perfect 'noise floor'. But it is one track so far, and I am close to being done with the track. I know, right? Another "Everybody's On the Run" mix. I swear, this one is loads better. Gives a better idea of what the track is supposed to sound like as opposed to being a compressed to hell track like on the album. I like it. I hope you will like it. The 18th can't come soon enough. By the way, did you guys enjoy the isolated vocal for "Dead In The Water"? Let me know. Will there be download links? Looking forward to this!! Yes, there will be download links. All to be determined though as 2% of this is done so far. |
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