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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 19, 2018 5:21:06 GMT -5
All this talk from some people about Noel's album selling less, the tour selling slower ... it is simply wishful thinking from Noel haters, and easy to dismiss by just reviewing the information in this same forum.
And, btw, regarding "the gulf" in first week sales with Liam, it was 30K in the UK but 18k worldwide (https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/org//reporting/13HZthM7p2-YiHIc4xAmAIxT96bOPo3EB/page/CsgK).
So, as others said, it is true that Liam's album will probably end selling more this time, but they are in the same league both in terms of album sales and ticket sales.
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Post by tcole on Jan 19, 2018 5:37:50 GMT -5
All this talk from some people about Noel's album selling less, the tour selling slower ... it is simply wishful thinking from Noel haters, and easy to dismiss by just reviewing the information in this same forum. And, btw, regarding "the gulf" in first week sales with Liam, it was 30K in the UK but 18k worldwide (https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/org//reporting/13HZthM7p2-YiHIc4xAmAIxT96bOPo3EB/page/CsgK). So, as others said, it is true that Liam's album will probably end selling more this time, but they are in the same league both in terms of album sales and ticket sales. Ah yes, I forgot that Noel is also playing Finsbury Park and Lancashire Cricket Club. Fact that Liam sold out Finsbury in a few minutes, and recently sold out the LCC, which combined are larger than Noel's whole UK tour, which still isn't sold out, as well as Liam selling out a UK arena tour in minutes, shows that they're in completely different leagues now. Both in album and ticket sales. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 19, 2018 5:45:14 GMT -5
All this talk from some people about Noel's album selling less, the tour selling slower ... it is simply wishful thinking from Noel haters, and easy to dismiss by just reviewing the information in this same forum. And, btw, regarding "the gulf" in first week sales with Liam, it was 30K in the UK but 18k worldwide (https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/org//reporting/13HZthM7p2-YiHIc4xAmAIxT96bOPo3EB/page/CsgK). So, as others said, it is true that Liam's album will probably end selling more this time, but they are in the same league both in terms of album sales and ticket sales. I agree with you about the album sales. If I was Noel it would be the slow uptake on the tour that would ahve concerned me more. |
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Post by Rolo on Jan 19, 2018 6:24:12 GMT -5
Who would of thought this thread would of been made a year ago. Lovely stuff.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 19, 2018 7:20:40 GMT -5
All this talk from some people about Noel's album selling less, the tour selling slower ... it is simply wishful thinking from Noel haters, and easy to dismiss by just reviewing the information in this same forum. And, btw, regarding "the gulf" in first week sales with Liam, it was 30K in the UK but 18k worldwide (https://datastudio.google.com/u/0/org//reporting/13HZthM7p2-YiHIc4xAmAIxT96bOPo3EB/page/CsgK). So, as others said, it is true that Liam's album will probably end selling more this time, but they are in the same league both in terms of album sales and ticket sales. Ah yes, I forgot that Noel is also playing Finsbury Park and Lancashire Cricket Club. Fact that Liam sold out Finsbury in a few minutes, and recently sold out the LCC, which combined are larger than Noel's whole UK tour, which still isn't sold out, as well as Liam selling out a UK arena tour in minutes, shows that they're in completely different leagues now. Both in album and ticket sales. I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) |
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Post by bt95 on Jan 19, 2018 7:51:15 GMT -5
Ah yes, I forgot that Noel is also playing Finsbury Park and Lancashire Cricket Club. Fact that Liam sold out Finsbury in a few minutes, and recently sold out the LCC, which combined are larger than Noel's whole UK tour, which still isn't sold out, as well as Liam selling out a UK arena tour in minutes, shows that they're in completely different leagues now. Both in album and ticket sales. I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) Great post. Can't wait for Liam at Finsbury. But the new album has very little to do with Liam's tour success. Just as Noel's first album had little to do with his first tour success. |
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Post by coconutstall on Jan 19, 2018 8:14:29 GMT -5
Because As You Were is far superior to Who Built The Moon? Simple.
Liam's superior marketing strategies (or rather his representatives') and Liam's ability to appeal to a younger audience didn't hurt either, but As You Were shits over everything on WBTM (with the exception of Dead in the Water)
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 19, 2018 8:27:34 GMT -5
Because As You Were is far superior to Who Built The Moon? Simple. And by that logic, Ed Sheeran's Divide is far superior to As You Were. |
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Post by frogerz on Jan 19, 2018 10:42:41 GMT -5
Because As You Were is far superior to Who Built The Moon? Simple. And by that logic, Ed Sheeran's Divide is far superior to As You Were. If Liam was on Sour Mash he would have still sold more. That's what people are referring too in terms of quality as they both have very similar fan bases. |
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 19, 2018 10:47:30 GMT -5
And by that logic, Ed Sheeran's Divide is far superior to As You Were. If Liam was on Sour Mash he would have still sold more. What evidence do you have to support that? |
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Post by freddy838 on Jan 19, 2018 11:05:55 GMT -5
If Liam was on Sour Mash he would have still sold more. What evidence do you have to support that? Because it's a better album |
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Post by sfsorrow on Jan 19, 2018 11:11:47 GMT -5
What evidence do you have to support that? Because it's a better album In other words, there is no evidence. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:15:19 GMT -5
What evidence do you have to support that? Because it's a better album "He talks like his opinion is a simple fact" A line from Elephant off Lonerism by Tame Impala, which I enjoy more than both AYW and WBTM |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 19, 2018 11:28:24 GMT -5
Because As You Were is far superior to Who Built The Moon? Simple. Liam's superior marketing strategies (or rather his representatives') and Liam's ability to appeal to a younger audience didn't hurt either, but As You Were shits over everything on WBTM (with the exception of Dead in the Water) Liam’s PR campaign is no different from his Beady Eye days or Noel’s. Because they are Gallagher’s they are always given tremendous promo opportunities. The big difference this time around is the tunes are miles better and he’s using his name. Don’t under estimate the power of his name and branding. |
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Post by tcole on Jan 19, 2018 13:08:27 GMT -5
Ah yes, I forgot that Noel is also playing Finsbury Park and Lancashire Cricket Club. Fact that Liam sold out Finsbury in a few minutes, and recently sold out the LCC, which combined are larger than Noel's whole UK tour, which still isn't sold out, as well as Liam selling out a UK arena tour in minutes, shows that they're in completely different leagues now. Both in album and ticket sales. I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) I never said Noel's doing any worse this time around, I was just saying that Noel and Liam are not in the same league like you suggested. AYW sold better, it's holding well in the charts, and tickets for his UK tour were like gold dust, with only a small portion of the people looking for tickets actually able to get them. Whereas Noel's hasn't sold half as quick. I do agree that this is partly down to the fact that this is Liam's first album/tour and it's Noel's third outing, but it still doesn't change the fact that they're not in the same league. Also the capacity is correct - Noel's UK tour is under 90,000, and Finsbury & LLC is exactly 90,000 combined. I don't think Noel gets any of the money from the gigs, it's the venues who pay licensing for the songs not Liam |
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Post by stxparkamonkey on Jan 19, 2018 13:55:22 GMT -5
I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) I never said Noel's doing any worse this time around, I was just saying that Noel and Liam are not in the same league like you suggested. AYW sold better, it's holding well in the charts, and tickets for his UK tour were like gold dust, with only a small portion of the people looking for tickets actually able to get them. Whereas Noel's hasn't sold half as quick. I do agree that this is partly down to the fact that this is Liam's first album/tour and it's Noel's third outing, but it still doesn't change the fact that they're not in the same league. Also the capacity is correct - Noel's UK tour is under 90,000, and Finsbury & LLC is exactly 90,000 combined. I don't think Noel gets any of the money from the gigs, it's the venues who pay licensing for the songs not LiamThat is 100% correct. Even if he put out a DVD/live album it'd be the record label that would have to cut a check to Noel, Liam does not have part with one cent for publishing royalties. |
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Post by Hans Gruber on Jan 19, 2018 14:45:41 GMT -5
A lot of teenage girls and soccer moms bought As You Were for cheeseball songs like 'Wall of Glass' and 'For What It's Worth'.... Thanks. I’m guessing you like “keep on reaching”?... I know what you're up to, and I like it.... Thanks. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 19, 2018 15:01:16 GMT -5
And by that logic, Ed Sheeran's Divide is far superior to As You Were. If Liam was on Sour Mash he would have still sold more. That's what people are referring too in terms of quality as they both have very similar fan bases. If Liam was on Sour Mash most people would be unaware about an album. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 19, 2018 15:02:47 GMT -5
I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) Great post. Can't wait for Liam at Finsbury. But the new album has very little to do with Liam's tour success. Just as Noel's first album had little to do with his first tour success. How have you come to that rather stange conclusion? If he had put out some utter shite you think the tour would have been as big? I'm more than happy to accept that the revived interest in Liam isn't just because of the strength of the album but its getting boring that a lot of people are making about everything but that |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 19, 2018 15:04:22 GMT -5
Ah yes, I forgot that Noel is also playing Finsbury Park and Lancashire Cricket Club. Fact that Liam sold out Finsbury in a few minutes, and recently sold out the LCC, which combined are larger than Noel's whole UK tour, which still isn't sold out, as well as Liam selling out a UK arena tour in minutes, shows that they're in completely different leagues now. Both in album and ticket sales. I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) What is the money Liam has to pay for performing Oasis songs? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 19, 2018 15:41:39 GMT -5
I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) What is the money Liam has to pay for performing Oasis songs? it really can't be that much. |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 19, 2018 16:19:29 GMT -5
I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) What is the money Liam has to pay for performing Oasis songs? It is different in each country. In Spain, I know for a fact songwriters can get 8.5% of the ticket face value (this is paid to Spain authors society, which later redistributes it among authors). In the UK, PRS says in their website it is 3% (https://www.prsformusic.com/royalties/live-performance-royalties). Obviously Noel would only receive the fraction corresponding to his songs (slightly more than half of it, if I am not wrong) Don't know about other countries You can do the math. Maybe some will think it's not so much, but it's not bad for a night of NO work if you ask me |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jan 19, 2018 17:17:07 GMT -5
I have been travelling to Gallagher-related gigs for many years because I live in a relatively small city. So I have been browsing through ticket information pages in all Gallagher-related european tours in the last 15 years to decide my best options. And I have bought tickets to see Noel, BE, Oasis and Liam in several european countries (this time I will see Noel in Amsterdam and Liam in Barcelona). So I think I am allowed to say I do not see any indication of Noel's european tour selling slower than usual. Some gigs are sold out, some are still not, probably because we are still months away from them. As always happened in my experience. If there is a difference, it is not so big it can be clearly appreciated at first sight. In the UK, as far as I know, he is playing venues of the same capacity as in his last tours and, seeing the current ticket sales in his website, he will probably sell them out. As far as I can see (and nobody seems to have any actual data, only hate and wishful thinking), he is doing as well as always also in the UK. I have no experience with the America tour, but people are saying he is playing bigger venues this time, so I guess he will struggle to sell them out, but that does not mean less tickets sold overall. Rgarding the Liam comparison, Liam also has gigs that have still not sold out in his european tour (they probably will) and there were also tickets available for others for a long time. Regarding the 2 Liam big shows in the UK, you are right that Noel will probably not have gigs so big in this cycle (although what you say about the capacity of those gigs compared with Noel's tour is ridiculous), but don't forget that Noel songs are a big part of the success of those gigs for wider audiences (and, actually, he will also get a significant part of the money, since he wrote more than half of the setlist) I never said Noel's doing any worse this time around, I was just saying that Noel and Liam are not in the same league like you suggested. AYW sold better, it's holding well in the charts, and tickets for his UK tour were like gold dust, with only a small portion of the people looking for tickets actually able to get them. Whereas Noel's hasn't sold half as quick. I do agree that this is partly down to the fact that this is Liam's first album/tour and it's Noel's third outing, but it still doesn't change the fact that they're not in the same league. Also the capacity is correct - Noel's UK tour is under 90,000, and Finsbury & LLC is exactly 90,000 combined. I don't think Noel gets any of the money from the gigs, it's the venues who pay licensing for the songs not Liam I must admit I thought LCC had less capacity. If it's true they have put on sale tickets for the whole capacity of those venues, it's quite impressive and I agree that probably Noel would not sell them out today, although it's difficult to know for sure. Anyway, as I said, I still think Noel songs play a big part in the success of those big gigs And, for the record, you can easily check by yourself that: 1) LCC is still not sold out (not even in the primary market, check Liam's website). 2) The capacity of Noel's arena tour is well over 90k (I would say 120k in a quick estimate) and he will probably add more dates. |
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Post by chamu on Jan 19, 2018 17:34:48 GMT -5
I never said Noel's doing any worse this time around, I was just saying that Noel and Liam are not in the same league like you suggested. AYW sold better, it's holding well in the charts, and tickets for his UK tour were like gold dust, with only a small portion of the people looking for tickets actually able to get them. Whereas Noel's hasn't sold half as quick. I do agree that this is partly down to the fact that this is Liam's first album/tour and it's Noel's third outing, but it still doesn't change the fact that they're not in the same league. Also the capacity is correct - Noel's UK tour is under 90,000, and Finsbury & LLC is exactly 90,000 combined. I don't think Noel gets any of the money from the gigs, it's the venues who pay licensing for the songs not Liam I must admit I thought LCC had less capacity. If it's true they have put on sale tickets for the whole capacity of those venues, it's quite impressive and I agree that probably Noel would not sell them out today, although it's difficult to know for sure. Anyway, as I said, I still think Noel songs play a big part in the success of those big gigs And, for the record, you can easily check by yourself that: 1) LCC is still not sold out (not even in the primary market, check Liam's website). 2) The capacity of Noel's arena tour is well over 90k (I would say 120k in a quick estimate) and he will probably add more dates. LCC is completely sold out as you can easily check (not only in the out-of-date liam's website) And about this thread. It's not about WBTM selling bad and Noel performing i half-empty venues...it has sold very very good for a 50 years rock act nd his UK tour will be completely sold out shortly. The thing is Liam&AYW have completely exceed all expectations. NOBODY had thought one year ago that Liam would have a platinum album before Noel and he would perform for 40,000&50,000 people only by himself |
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Post by Hans Gruber on Jan 19, 2018 17:56:29 GMT -5
I never said Noel's doing any worse this time around, I was just saying that Noel and Liam are not in the same league like you suggested. AYW sold better, it's holding well in the charts, and tickets for his UK tour were like gold dust, with only a small portion of the people looking for tickets actually able to get them. Whereas Noel's hasn't sold half as quick. I do agree that this is partly down to the fact that this is Liam's first album/tour and it's Noel's third outing, but it still doesn't change the fact that they're not in the same league. Also the capacity is correct - Noel's UK tour is under 90,000, and Finsbury & LLC is exactly 90,000 combined. I don't think Noel gets any of the money from the gigs, it's the venues who pay licensing for the songs not Liam I must admit I thought LCC had less capacity. If it's true they have put on sale tickets for the whole capacity of those venues, it's quite impressive and I agree that probably Noel would not sell them out today, although it's difficult to know for sure. Anyway, as I said, I still think Noel songs play a big part in the success of those big gigsAnd, for the record, you can easily check by yourself that: 1) LCC is still not sold out (not even in the primary market, check Liam's website). 2) The capacity of Noel's arena tour is well over 90k (I would say 120k in a quick estimate) and he will probably add more dates. Neither Líam or Noël would be playing the venues they're playing without Oasis songs....particularly Líam, he only has one solo album to draw from. Both of them are basically living off their past efforts, they're old by music standards, especially....Noël would be like 112 in cat years, think about that. Thanks. |
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