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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 22, 2017 2:57:28 GMT -5
It's kinda depressing to think it will be three years before new music comes around again. |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 22, 2017 3:01:33 GMT -5
Noel really seems to be wanting to do it all faster now. I suspect an EP with outtakes from WBTM sessions next spring could happen, as he said Fort Knox was not originally included, meaning there's probably other stuff that was recorded. That or a compilation of unused recordings. Seems like he's really recording all the time so there must lots of stuff to release. I'd love for this to happen, but there might not be that much extra in the bag from the Holmes sessions. Noel said they didn't have any material for b sides, which is why they had to dig DITW out for the bonus track. X Didn't have any extra material... coz maybe he's keeping it for another release. Of course this is only speculation, maybe there is nothing left. But for NGHFB dvd we had demos, for CY he released remixes. So it could be remixes. But there surely will be another release between this and the next "new" record |
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Post by mossy on Nov 22, 2017 3:03:12 GMT -5
I'd love for this to happen, but there might not be that much extra in the bag from the Holmes sessions. Noel said they didn't have any material for b sides, which is why they had to dig DITW out for the bonus track. X Didn't have any extra material... coz maybe he's keeping it for another release. Of course this is only speculation, maybe there is nothing left. Well we know there're several different versions of the songs, some with more Oasis-like choruses. Would love to hear those even if there aren't any additional unheard songs. X |
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Post by andymorris on Nov 22, 2017 3:17:54 GMT -5
That could be interesting too, yeah. Either way, I dont believe Noel has recorded 10 tracks and said, ok we are done... He's a perfectionist and he needs to have a choice when making a tracklisting, so there must be a few more tracks.
The story about no extra tracks is just a nice story for bedtime, one to add to the pile Noel has told us for many many years now.
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Post by mossy on Nov 22, 2017 3:22:26 GMT -5
It's kinda depressing to think it will be three years before new music comes around again. Chooo choooo! X |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Nov 22, 2017 3:28:45 GMT -5
He should just spend a week in the studio and record an acoustic-based album with minimal production like Dead in the Water.
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Post by mossy on Nov 22, 2017 3:31:22 GMT -5
this thread gives me anxiety X |
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Post by Gas Panic on Nov 22, 2017 3:32:11 GMT -5
He should just spend a week in the studio and record an acoustic-based album with minimal production like Dead in the Water. It would be a great way to offload a load of old songs he's had hanging around for ages. Maybe even a double album? |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Nov 22, 2017 3:32:57 GMT -5
I would like to take this opportunity to say hi to my 2021 self. How's life in the future? Flying cars and all that shit? Did we finally get a working postal service in Denmark?
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Post by Longtime Servant of the Gun on Nov 22, 2017 3:42:45 GMT -5
FUCKIN BRILLIANT THREAD... Beat me to it!!!
I expext a blinder of an album... Noel will ne Prepped this time for David Holmes...
Again, No tunes written but i expect he'll really work on Riffs and Ideas to go in the studio with... And if noel really works on and puts time into great riffs. Holmes will get some Gold out of him.
Plus if hes still writing standard HFB / OASIS stuff on the side... This means he'll have a shed load of great tunes for the inevitable Oasis reunion!
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Post by mossy on Nov 22, 2017 4:33:31 GMT -5
He should just spend a week in the studio and record an acoustic-based album with minimal production like Dead in the Water. It would be a great way to offload a load of old songs he's had hanging around for ages. Maybe even a double album?I think Noel's too tight to ever do a double album. He wouldn't release twice the material when he can't charge twice the price for it. That said, if he went for it, he really could pull out a classic. His own Physical Grafitti or Electric Ladyland. He'd have to add variety to keep the listener's interest. But a few sessions with Holmes, maybe a 20 minute closing track worked up with the AA, a few acoustic moments and then throw in his stockpiled material such as Come On Outside and he could easily do a great double discer. Do it Noel, you're not getting any younger mate ;-) X |
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Post by mossy on Nov 22, 2017 4:37:36 GMT -5
I would like to take this opportunity to say hi to my 2021 self. How's life in the future? Flying cars and all that shit? Did we finally get a working postal service in Denmark? The day before NGHFB #4 was to be released, a monstrous double album claimed by all reviewers to be the best album of all time, Fuhrer Trump started a nuclear war, wiping out all human life on earth. The cockroaches think the album is awesome though, despite the poor production and brickwalling. X |
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 22, 2017 5:07:29 GMT -5
Seriously, I think a lot will depend on how the album is received and how well it sells. If it bombs then I think Noel will go down with his time-tested kitchen sink formula for LP #4.
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Post by andymorris on Nov 22, 2017 5:11:32 GMT -5
It would be a great way to offload a load of old songs he's had hanging around for ages. Maybe even a double album?I think Noel's too tight to ever do a double album. He wouldn't release twice the material when he can't charge twice the price for it. That said, if he went for it, he really could pull out a classic. His own Physical Grafitti or Electric Ladyland. He'd have to add variety to keep the listener's interest. But a few sessions with Holmes, maybe a 20 minute closing track worked up with the AA, a few acoustic moments and then throw in his stockpiled material such as Come On Outside and he could easily do a great double discer. Do it Noel, you're not getting any younger mate ;-) X Well he already released a double album, it's called Morning Glory + Bsides.  |
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Post by shoreline on Nov 22, 2017 5:13:25 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2017 6:00:45 GMT -5
Noel really seems to be wanting to do it all faster now. I suspect an EP with outtakes from WBTM sessions next spring could happen, as he said Fort Knox was not originally included, meaning there's probably other stuff that was recorded. That or a compilation of unused recordings. Seems like he's really recording all the time so there must lots of stuff to release. I wonder what else is left from WBTM. Noel made the point that DITW was included because him and Holmes hadn't recorded any b-sides. We also know that Noel was really struggling to create songs and he didn't really start putting the album together until the stretch run. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the most that was left of the sessions were the unusable spools of ideas that Noel had, but never got developed. Agreed. I think Noel probably feels he might be 2-3 songs short with his collaboration with Holmes or else we wouldn't have gotten 3 instrumentals on an 11 track album. Not saying that is a bad thing but I believe Noel would have included more lyric based songs if he had them. |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Nov 22, 2017 6:05:28 GMT -5
For the next album would be great if he gets an album producer like UNKLE or DangerMouse if its gonna go with the electronic psychodelic sound. If he picks up the guitars again maybe James Ford would be amazing.
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Post by bt95 on Nov 22, 2017 6:14:06 GMT -5
Yeah, so I'm bored of WBTM now. Let's fire up the hype train for album #4. Choo choo! X The leak is imminent. What have we left to speculate? Studio versions of Dead in the Water and Don't Stop? A best of or b-sides compilation for Christmas 2018? Noel can afford it by now. Another improvised in studio Holmes album or back to the written at home days? I'm seriously gonna remember and quote this in 2021. No chance we'll get Dead In The Water I don't think. And honestly, as gutted as I am, I'm not sure if we'll get an album or single release of Don't Stop. I can see it being put as a B-side on an upcoming single from WBTM, or not used at all, or maybe as a bonus track ala God Help Us All. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 22, 2017 6:14:44 GMT -5
Funny considering album no.3 isn't actually out yet
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Post by bt95 on Nov 22, 2017 6:17:39 GMT -5
I wonder what else is left from WBTM. Noel made the point that DITW was included because him and Holmes hadn't recorded any b-sides. We also know that Noel was really struggling to create songs and he didn't really start putting the album together until the stretch run. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the most that was left of the sessions were the unusable spools of ideas that Noel had, but never got developed. Agreed. I think Noel probably feels he might be 2-3 songs short with his collaboration with Holmes or else we wouldn't have gotten 3 instrumentals on an 11 track album. Not saying that is a bad thing but I believe Noel would have included more lyric based songs if he had them. In that sense I do think it's a shame that something like 'Come On Outside' couldn't have been used. I know Holmes didn't want to work with stuff not written in the studio, but it's hard not to think this album is a song short, and an 'old' song given a WBTM spruce up could have resolved that. I'm just using Come On Outside as an example, as it has that DOYS-era vibe and wall of sound behind it that could easily have worked on this album (especially if given The Man Who Built The Moon treatment, but it could have been any song that Noel has been noodling away at. |
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Post by seanrulesrh on Nov 22, 2017 6:22:19 GMT -5
Agreed. I think Noel probably feels he might be 2-3 songs short with his collaboration with Holmes or else we wouldn't have gotten 3 instrumentals on an 11 track album. Not saying that is a bad thing but I believe Noel would have included more lyric based songs if he had them. In that sense I do think it's a shame that something like 'Come On Outside' couldn't have been used. I know Holmes didn't want to work with stuff not written in the studio, but it's hard not to think this album is a song short, and an 'old' song given a WBTM spruce up could have resolved that. I'm just using Come On Outside as an example, as it has that DOYS-era vibe and wall of sound behind it that could easily have worked on this album (especially if given The Man Who Built The Moon treatment, but it could have been any song that Noel has been noodling away at. I fucking love that song,it would've fit the album perfectly |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2017 6:37:10 GMT -5
Agreed. I think Noel probably feels he might be 2-3 songs short with his collaboration with Holmes or else we wouldn't have gotten 3 instrumentals on an 11 track album. Not saying that is a bad thing but I believe Noel would have included more lyric based songs if he had them. In that sense I do think it's a shame that something like 'Come On Outside' couldn't have been used. I know Holmes didn't want to work with stuff not written in the studio, but it's hard not to think this album is a song short, and an 'old' song given a WBTM spruce up could have resolved that. I'm just using Come On Outside as an example, as it has that DOYS-era vibe and wall of sound behind it that could easily have worked on this album (especially if given The Man Who Built The Moon treatment, but it could have been any song that Noel has been noodling away at. I’m sure it’ll surface eventually. Didn’t feel like the right type of song for HFB or CY. Def has a WBTM vibe but it’s too old for that project. |
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Post by bt95 on Nov 22, 2017 6:43:47 GMT -5
In that sense I do think it's a shame that something like 'Come On Outside' couldn't have been used. I know Holmes didn't want to work with stuff not written in the studio, but it's hard not to think this album is a song short, and an 'old' song given a WBTM spruce up could have resolved that. I'm just using Come On Outside as an example, as it has that DOYS-era vibe and wall of sound behind it that could easily have worked on this album (especially if given The Man Who Built The Moon treatment, but it could have been any song that Noel has been noodling away at. I’m sure it’ll surface eventually. Didn’t feel like the right type of song for HFB or CY. Def has a WBTM vibe but it’s too old for that project. Yeh I agree - but a song in that sense could have really worked IMO. As you say, it has the vibe. Imagine a Holmes-style 'Come On Outside' kicking off after the first interlude, for example? Just a thought. It's done now but it'd probably be the one underwhelming thing from the album for me - that it's just missing one more 'big hitter'. |
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Post by thewalruswaspaul on Nov 22, 2017 7:03:30 GMT -5
I'm just crossing my fingers for a Damon Albarn collaboration. Doubt it would ever happen though, schedules probably wouldn't work out and I'm not sure if Noel's ego could take it
I can always hope though
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Post by seanrulesrh on Nov 22, 2017 7:11:37 GMT -5
I'm just crossing my fingers for a Damon Albarn collaboration. Doubt it would ever happen though, schedules probably wouldn't work out and I'm not sure if Noel's ego could take it I can always hope though He wanted Damon to play the harmonica I believe on this record but Damon couldn't |
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