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Post by themanwithnoname on Aug 15, 2017 16:10:29 GMT -5
Think I must be listening to a different performance to everyone else. To me he sounds out of tune for large parts of this and there's even a hint of Kermit creeping back in.
Ironically I thought one of his best vocal performances post the Manchester One Love concert (where I thought he sounded amazing) was the Lolla show when he walked off.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 15, 2017 16:35:31 GMT -5
Think I must be listening to a different performance to everyone else. To me he sounds out of tune for large parts of this and there's even a hint of Kermit creeping back in. Ironically I thought one of his best vocal performances post the Manchester One Love concert (where I thought he sounded amazing) was the Lolla show when he walked off.I still believe he sounded fantastic that day, which made it all the more surprising that he walked off. To me, he was fire as compared to the previous night I saw him for the aftershow.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 15, 2017 16:59:06 GMT -5
Think I must be listening to a different performance to everyone else. To me he sounds out of tune for large parts of this and there's even a hint of Kermit creeping back in. Ironically I thought one of his best vocal performances post the Manchester One Love concert (where I thought he sounded amazing) was the Lolla show when he walked off. Pfiew, thought I was the only one hearing that. It doesn't sound awful, but not as fantastic as some of us describe it. I imagine it's a hard one to sing live though, and the vocals on the studio version were obviously manipulated with autotune, parts from different vocal takes that have been stuck together etc.
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Post by MacaRonic on Aug 15, 2017 17:10:50 GMT -5
one thing that really irritates me is the notion that singing higher=better singer eg. ariana grande doing extended vocal runs to show off her notes, from MY point of view, liam belting out the words sounds far better than his falsetto, this bullshit way of judging vocals (probably stemming from the likes of Xfactor) is likely why FWIW was recorded so damn high, some pop music loving idiot producer probably told liam to "give it your best!", the chorus sounds awful compared to the live version, which actually sounds like a classic oasis power ballad. might seem like a pointless thing to rant about but i fucking hate how liam did this just to pander to the plebs. music doesnt have to be high pitched to sound good for fucks sake, ian curtis is one of my favourite vocalists and hes likened to homer simpson ok rant over, ill be listening to this version of FWIW on repeat if anyone needs me I agree totally, much better and more organic in this key.
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Post by pedrobrasil on Aug 15, 2017 17:12:39 GMT -5
Great performance from Liam And the band!
Liam voice is on top form!
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Post by Bellboy on Aug 15, 2017 17:14:59 GMT -5
Delighted with that FWIW performance. Sure it was a bit out of tune at the start but nailed the chorus. I just love this song right now.
WOG brilliant too.
Just a reminder that RKID is back!
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Post by walrus91 on Aug 15, 2017 18:33:27 GMT -5
Think I must be listening to a different performance to everyone else. To me he sounds out of tune for large parts of this and there's even a hint of Kermit creeping back in. Ironically I thought one of his best vocal performances post the Manchester One Love concert (where I thought he sounded amazing) was the Lolla show when he walked off. Pfiew, thought I was the only one hearing that. It doesn't sound awful, but not as fantastic as some of us describe it. I imagine it's a hard one to sing live though, and the vocals on the studio version were obviously manipulated with autotune, parts from different vocal takes that have been stuck together etc. Kermit.. Jesus man it sounded great .. best I've heard him in forever .. it was FANTASTIC .. have had it on repeat all day
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Post by nutsngum on Aug 15, 2017 19:00:48 GMT -5
I'm a staunch critic of Liam's live vocals - but I don't see how he could have done any better with the two songs on Colbert. Fair play to him. FWIW could have been VERY embarrassing. It wasn't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 19:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by durk on Aug 15, 2017 19:21:53 GMT -5
some bad notes around 1:30 in but otherwise i like FWIW much better live.
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Post by squarewave on Aug 15, 2017 21:03:59 GMT -5
I'm a staunch critic of Liam's live vocals - but I don't see how he could have done any better with the two songs on Colbert. Fair play to him. FWIW could have been VERY embarrassing. It wasn't. Me too. Big critic of liam's live vocals. he did great. he should start singing better man and born on a different cloud, i'd love to hear how he'd sing them now.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 16, 2017 4:59:01 GMT -5
Think the song sounds better slower and more natural.
Liam should do it acoustic live.
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Post by noliamno on Aug 16, 2017 6:13:09 GMT -5
I know initially Colbert was struggling vs Fallon. There were even early whispers, however unlikely, that CBS would swap Corden in for Colbert. Now I see 2 years later that Colbert has kicked the crap out of Jimmy Fallon for almost all of 2017 thus far. Good for him. I've always found Jimmy Fallon to be annoying and a major kiss ass. I wonder why the sudden swing in ratings? Better skits and jokes? They basically get similar guests and music. No, Colbert has gone 100% Anti-Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2017 12:19:54 GMT -5
I know initially Colbert was struggling vs Fallon. There were even early whispers, however unlikely, that CBS would swap Corden in for Colbert. Now I see 2 years later that Colbert has kicked the crap out of Jimmy Fallon for almost all of 2017 thus far. Good for him. I've always found Jimmy Fallon to be annoying and a major kiss ass. I wonder why the sudden swing in ratings? Better skits and jokes? They basically get similar guests and music. No, Colbert has gone 100% Anti-Trump. I agree. The average viewer of these shows skews older and that demographic loves them some political talk. Which is what Colbert is actually good at doing. Personally, I find Colbert's style to be super-annoying, but his style of wit is perfect for political commentary. With all the heat of the past election and now this presidency, people are turning to the person who can give them the best commentary on the political climate. Add to that Fallon's skits have all become a bit stale over the past year or so. Same stuff on a loop, but now the punch lines are falling flat.
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Post by jxing on Aug 16, 2017 12:58:58 GMT -5
I'm probably the only person, but I stopped watching all theses shows bc I'm so tired of hearing about politics... (it has nothing to do with party affiliations) just over the whole political BS.
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Post by supernovadragon on Aug 17, 2017 2:45:28 GMT -5
Just my two pence worth:
Great vocal performance but I agree with what everyone else has been saying. The band sound dull, boring, not into it and uninterested. Liam needs a little personality behind him with the guitarist but it just seems very, for want of a better word, MEH. Apart from Liam, Liam just sounds amazing
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Post by bmore007 on Aug 17, 2017 5:48:33 GMT -5
Best I've heard Liam sing those two songs live.
Guys complaining about the band not having personality, it's kind of their job to be beige. This is the Liam Gallagher show. As far as their musical abilities go you get what you pay for. Im sure all Liam cares about is if they get along back stage and that they don't break the bank for where he's at in his career.
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Post by underneaththesky on Aug 17, 2017 6:08:23 GMT -5
Just my two pence worth: Great vocal performance but I agree with what everyone else has been saying. The band sound dull, boring, not into it and uninterested. Liam needs a little personality behind him with the guitarist but it just seems very, for want of a better word, MEH. Apart from Liam, Liam just sounds amazing 'The band sound dull, boring, not into it and uninterested' that was OASIS, man.when I heard them, it's the songs that hit me. brilliant songwriting, top singer and honest playing. imagine one of the guitarist putting his fucking foot on some monitor when playing a solo? it's what you pay for? while agree the first few gigs weren't that good, they'd just not been rehearsing enough. it's just rock n roll man. no ircus, no mystery. it's just THERE.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 17, 2017 10:18:09 GMT -5
Just my two pence worth: Great vocal performance but I agree with what everyone else has been saying. The band sound dull, boring, not into it and uninterested. Liam needs a little personality behind him with the guitarist but it just seems very, for want of a better word, MEH. Apart from Liam, Liam just sounds amazing 'The band sound dull, boring, not into it and uninterested' that was OASIS, man.when I heard them, it's the songs that hit me. brilliant songwriting, top singer and honest playing. imagine one of the guitarist putting his fucking foot on some monitor when playing a solo? it's what you pay for? while agree the first few gigs weren't that good, they'd just not been rehearsing enough. it's just rock n roll man. no ircus, no mystery. it's just THERE. That band is not rock 'n roll.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 17, 2017 17:36:08 GMT -5
To all you yanks on here - i know Oasis always get accused of never breaking the USA and its true they never did what they should have, but whenever anyone mentions Liam and Noel individually or Oasis it is always said as if everyone will know who they are. I know you are supposed to big up the act you are introducing but he says it as though the whole viewing audience knows Oasis. I remember watching Letterman on holiday and was shocked to hear Stephen King talking about the Gallaghers just like it was a UK talk show. Ive seen a few other examples of this too. So is it the case that they are actually very much well remembered or is it still just a case of who? Wonderwall? Oh yeah? In 'Under the Dome' by Stephen King (great novel) one of the characters has an Oasis poster on their Wall
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Post by durk on Aug 17, 2017 18:29:02 GMT -5
i always love people talking about them never breaking US - then their solo gigs here sell out in a day or less.
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Post by walterglass on Aug 17, 2017 18:39:41 GMT -5
i always love people talking about them never breaking US - then their solo gigs here sell out in a day or less. I think anything less than Beatles-esque success in America became a stick to beat Oasis with; probs their own fault for banging on about The Beatles so much. Literally, anything less than US cities falling like dominoes was a call for failure. For me, if you're part of the public consciousness and modern culture then you've done your job. I wonder if Evanescence have ever been accused of not breaking the UK because they weren't all-conquering here? Kids from a council estate do all that Oasis did and some scribes find an angle to justify claims of failure. Absolute madness.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Aug 17, 2017 20:39:37 GMT -5
I really dislike WOG live. Especially here. It's so quiet. If there's one thing Beady Eye did right, was to ensure that all of their songs had instrumentation going on. Always a little noise. A full sound. Lots of these songs we here live are just bare bones it seems like.
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Post by freddy838 on Aug 18, 2017 6:22:39 GMT -5
I really dislike WOG live. Especially here. It's so quiet. If there's one thing Beady Eye did right, was to ensure that all of their songs had instrumentation going on. Always a little noise. A full sound. Lots of these songs we here live are just bare bones it seems like. I said it before but it needs Mark Feltham going spaz on the harmonica like back in the 90s. Andy, Chris and Gem would definitely help too obviously.
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Post by mad4it87 on Aug 18, 2017 18:40:05 GMT -5
Think I must be listening to a different performance to everyone else. To me he sounds out of tune for large parts of this and there's even a hint of Kermit creeping back in. Ironically I thought one of his best vocal performances post the Manchester One Love concert (where I thought he sounded amazing) was the Lolla show when he walked off. Are you serious? He sounds bang in key to me, even at the start when some others are saying he started a bit dodgy. The start of Lyla on Jonathan Ross in 2005 was out of key but this performance isn't.
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