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Post by deasy on Jun 2, 2017 14:59:47 GMT -5
"Released less than 48 hours before the cut-off point for this week's chart, former Oasis and Beady Eye legend Liam Gallagher's first solo single, Wall Of Glass, debuts at No.60 (8,830 sales). He performed a fundraising gig for victims of the recent terror attack in Manchester the day before, with the audience singing Oasis smash Don't Look Back In Anger - which has become a signature of defiance since the attack - to him. One of the few Oasis tracks to actually have a lead vocal by his estranged brother Noel, Don't Look Back in Anger re-enters the chart at No.66 (7,694 sales). No.1 in 1996, it last appeared in the Top 75 in the first week of 1997, and is one of two Oasis singles to be a million seller, with a to-date tally of 1,199,377 sales, trailing only 1995 No.2 hit Wonderwall (1,762,775 sales). With Gallagher and the band back in the spotlight, they have three albums climbing the Top 75: Time Flies 1994-2009 (39-19, 3,736 sales), What's The Story Morning Glory (62-37, 2,559 sales) and Definitely Maybe (115-72, 1,383 sales) achieve their highest chart positions for 161 weeks, 138 weeks and 154 weeks, respectively."
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Post by ManofMisery on Jun 2, 2017 15:25:27 GMT -5
Climbed back up to #4 on Youtube trending. 930k views. Will be over a million by tomorrow morning. Looks to be performing better than #60...but hey ho
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 2, 2017 16:32:39 GMT -5
Single sold 8,830 in less than 48hours not too bad really That genuinely would get a top 5 some weeks Edit: was thinking of album sales.
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Post by chamu on Jun 3, 2017 4:02:54 GMT -5
#18 in total sales chart. Very impressive. But this is how it works charts these days with streaming. Absolutely ridiculous
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Post by deasy on Jun 3, 2017 4:22:29 GMT -5
#18 in total sales chart. Very impressive. But this is how it works charts these days with streaming. Absolutely ridiculous Charts would be dead now without streaming. Total Album sales last week in the UK were the lowest they've ever been since they started tracking total sales nearly 30 years ago. Single sales are falling at a rate of 25% per year for the last 4 years. Streaming is how music is consumed these days. Charts need to include streaming or else you'll end up with people having #1s because they sold 100 copies to their friends.
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Post by cloudburster on Jun 3, 2017 9:14:18 GMT -5
#18 in total sales chart. Very impressive. But this is how it works charts these days with streaming. Absolutely ridiculous Charts would be dead now without streaming. Total Album sales last week in the UK were the lowest they've ever been since they started tracking total sales nearly 30 years ago. Single sales are falling at a rate of 25% per year for the last 4 years. Streaming is how music is consumed these days. Charts need to include streaming or else you'll end up with people having #1s because they sold 100 copies to their friends. David Brent would have smashed it though
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jun 3, 2017 12:51:26 GMT -5
#18 in total sales chart. Very impressive. But this is how it works charts these days with streaming. Absolutely ridiculous Charts would be dead now without streaming. Total Album sales last week in the UK were the lowest they've ever been since they started tracking total sales nearly 30 years ago. Single sales are falling at a rate of 25% per year for the last 4 years. Streaming is how music is consumed these days. Charts need to include streaming or else you'll end up with people having #1s because they sold 100 copies to their friends. Agree that they need to reflect the way in which we now listen to our music. No doubt there are people that choose to stream a song on their spotify instead of buying a physcial copy/buy an mp3 from itunes. However streaming it is just playing the song. By that logic everytime we spin wall of glass on vinyl it should count towards the charts? So it isnt really a good way of doing it. As mentioned above, to only include singles in the actual fucking singles charts might be a start in getting a reflection of what single is most popular. Stops the embarassing ed sheeran scenario anyway.
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Post by spaneli on Jun 3, 2017 13:36:57 GMT -5
Charts would be dead now without streaming. Total Album sales last week in the UK were the lowest they've ever been since they started tracking total sales nearly 30 years ago. Single sales are falling at a rate of 25% per year for the last 4 years. Streaming is how music is consumed these days. Charts need to include streaming or else you'll end up with people having #1s because they sold 100 copies to their friends. Agree that they need to reflect the way in which we now listen to our music. No doubt there are people that choose to stream a song on their spotify instead of buying a physcial copy/buy an mp3 from itunes. However streaming it is just playing the song. By that logic everytime we spin wall of glass on vinyl it should count towards the charts? So it isnt really a good way of doing it. As mentioned above, to only include singles in the actual fucking singles charts might be a start in getting a reflection of what single is most popular. Stops the embarassing ed sheeran scenario anyway. On the Hot 100 radioplays count toward charts. How is spotify different from a radio play?
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Post by Bellboy on Jun 3, 2017 14:27:24 GMT -5
The Charlatans have a number 4 UK album. There is hope for music. I still say Liam is easily top 20 material with this track
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Post by mossy on Jun 3, 2017 14:45:15 GMT -5
Agree that they need to reflect the way in which we now listen to our music. No doubt there are people that choose to stream a song on their spotify instead of buying a physcial copy/buy an mp3 from itunes. However streaming it is just playing the song. By that logic everytime we spin wall of glass on vinyl it should count towards the charts? So it isnt really a good way of doing it. As mentioned above, to only include singles in the actual fucking singles charts might be a start in getting a reflection of what single is most popular. Stops the embarassing ed sheeran scenario anyway. On the Hot 100 radioplays count toward charts. How is spotify different from a radio play? The difference is that on the radio the station chooses what to play, whereas on streaming services the user chooses what to play. So it is a bit closer to an active purchase than a passive radio play.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jun 3, 2017 15:05:32 GMT -5
Agree that they need to reflect the way in which we now listen to our music. No doubt there are people that choose to stream a song on their spotify instead of buying a physcial copy/buy an mp3 from itunes. However streaming it is just playing the song. By that logic everytime we spin wall of glass on vinyl it should count towards the charts? So it isnt really a good way of doing it. As mentioned above, to only include singles in the actual fucking singles charts might be a start in getting a reflection of what single is most popular. Stops the embarassing ed sheeran scenario anyway. On the Hot 100 radioplays count toward charts. How is spotify different from a radio play? Two wrongs dont make a right. Radio plays arent right either. Like i said, streaming a song isnt any different to playing the vinyl or CD. You arent buying it again, bit it still counts, its just not right and leads to a ridiculous looking chart. Of course, this is assuming the charts are still relevant.
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Post by mossy on Jun 3, 2017 15:32:20 GMT -5
On the Hot 100 radioplays count toward charts. How is spotify different from a radio play? Two wrongs dont make a right. Radio plays arent right either. Like i said, streaming a song isnt any different to playing the vinyl or CD. You arent buying it again, bit it still counts, its just not right and leads to a ridiculous looking chart. Of course, this is assuming the charts are still relevant. It's a fair point - the charts now reflect music consumption rather than music sales. The rule for how streaming counts towards the chart definitely needs to be tweaked. Perhaps the first time a user streams a song is the only time it should count towards the chart? (100 streams = 1 sale btw) This article shows what an impact streaming has had on the charts: www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/36794105"In the first six months of 2016, there were 86 new entries in the UK singles chart. Ten years ago, that figure was 230."
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Post by The Escapist on Jun 3, 2017 15:39:25 GMT -5
Charts would be dead now without streaming. Total Album sales last week in the UK were the lowest they've ever been since they started tracking total sales nearly 30 years ago. Single sales are falling at a rate of 25% per year for the last 4 years. Streaming is how music is consumed these days. Charts need to include streaming or else you'll end up with people having #1s because they sold 100 copies to their friends. David Brent would have smashed it though Gareth only bought those out of sympathy - they're still in the garage.
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Post by chamu on Jun 5, 2017 11:49:24 GMT -5
#18 midweeks today for Wall of Glass It looks like it´s going to chart higher than in the previous week
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Post by spaneli on Jun 5, 2017 11:55:26 GMT -5
#18 midweeks today for Wall of Glass It looks like it´s going to chart higher than in the previous week He'll drop a little, but he'll probably still be in the top 25. Makes you wonder what his charting would have been if the release had been coordinated better to get a full week's worth of sales.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Jun 5, 2017 12:43:00 GMT -5
#18 midweeks today for Wall of Glass It looks like it´s going to chart higher than in the previous week He'll drop a little, but he'll probably still be in the top 25. Makes you wonder what his charting would have been if the release had been coordinated better to get a full week's worth of sales. That would be the highest charting Oasis-related single since What a Life.
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Post by mossy on Jun 5, 2017 14:07:27 GMT -5
#18 midweeks today for Wall of Glass It looks like it´s going to chart higher than in the previous week He'll drop a little, but he'll probably still be in the top 25. Makes you wonder what his charting would have been if the release had been coordinated better to get a full week's worth of sales. That would have certainly helped but I would suggest the biggest driver of sales this week is the massive exposure from the One Love gig. That's clearly what has put Live Forever, Don't Look Back In Anger and even Wonderwall back in the top 100 too.
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Post by space75gr on Jun 6, 2017 5:52:00 GMT -5
WOG is a HIT!!!!
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Post by chamu on Jun 7, 2017 2:31:06 GMT -5
15# Tuesday Update. His appearance in Manchester Concert is the key for this numbers. Highest chart for any Oasis post single is "Death of you and me" at 15. Probably at the end of the week it´ll chart around 25# with streaming sales included (yesterday he was at 50@ in Spotify chart)
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Post by mossy on Jun 7, 2017 2:56:57 GMT -5
Wonder if he'll be donating his single sales to charity like Noel did with DLBIA? ;-P
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Post by Rolo on Jun 7, 2017 5:19:06 GMT -5
Wonder what if he'll be donating his single sales to charity like Noel did with DLBIA? ;-P Mossy is going fishing!
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Post by mossy on Jun 7, 2017 5:21:37 GMT -5
Wonder what if he'll be donating his single sales to charity like Noel did with DLBIA? ;-P Mossy is going fishing! I was taking the piss but have been stung by Poe's Law. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poes_law
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Post by Rolo on Jun 7, 2017 5:25:46 GMT -5
Haha I know you were mate.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Jun 7, 2017 10:01:50 GMT -5
Wonder how many tiresome posts theyd be about poor Liam who they "genuinely wanted to do well" from the same noely g crew if this was no.100 after 2 weeks.
Coincentally the likes of kasabian (festival headliners) could only dream of being that high on the singles chart now.
Perspective of the exposure of Liam Gallagher. Something very much underestimated on here after Beady Eye.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 7, 2017 10:09:34 GMT -5
Wonder how many tiresome posts theyd be about poor Liam who they "genuinely wanted to do well" from the same noely g crew if this was no.100 after 2 weeks. Coincentally the likes of kasabian (festival headliners) could only dream of being that high on the singles chart now. Perspective of the exposure of Liam Gallagher. Something very much underestimated on here after Beady Eye. Hey man, we call ourselves "The Mashed Potato Pals". We meet on Skype every Thursday night to discuss our deity. This week's early topics will include Noel in Italy and best Noel songs to listen to on a rocky beach. Don't miss it.
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