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Post by mossy on Apr 19, 2017 7:53:10 GMT -5
Finally, real album title confirmed.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Apr 19, 2017 9:10:31 GMT -5
Why are Liam and Noel such lazy bastards?
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Post by Plantpot on Apr 19, 2017 9:53:21 GMT -5
Why are Liam and Noel such lazy bastards? Short answer: Because they can be. To date, our contributions make up 61 pages of scarcely any confirmed information, which is just one example out of many that ultimately prove this point. Our interest in the Gallagher's would not wane even if they waited another 5 years to produce new material.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Apr 19, 2017 9:58:56 GMT -5
61 pages of absolutely fucking nothing. When he release the single I wonder if we get to 1000 pages lol
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Post by Gas Panic on Apr 19, 2017 10:15:59 GMT -5
Why are Liam and Noel such lazy bastards? I often wonder why Noel doesnt drop a single every 6 months or so even when he's out of touring cycles. Lord knows he must have the songs sitting round to do it.
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Post by themightyeye on Apr 19, 2017 10:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by seanrulesrh on Apr 19, 2017 10:33:30 GMT -5
Someone likes his own album..
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 19, 2017 10:44:51 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for the Paul Gallagher album to drop. Come on, we know he wrote all those songs between 1993 and 1998.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Apr 19, 2017 10:51:04 GMT -5
Well Four Letter Word, Morning Son, The Roller and Millionaire were all demoed with Oasis. Yet we got The Nature of Reality, A quick peep, Keep the Dream Alive and Aint Got Nothin. Its fair to say we didnt get the very best of what LAG were writing. 4 songs out of how many on an album are hardly indicative of being held back? It's fair to say that Noel wasn't holding LAG back. Especially when DGSS was filled with Keep the Dream Alive and Ain't Got Nothing type songs. In fact, DGSS gave a pretty accurate picture of what LAG typically contributed to Oasis. Heights of goodness: TUTS and I'm Outta of Time and badness: Ain't Got Nothing and Keep the Dream Alive. I think it's pretty obvious we got exactly what LAG could do with/without Noel, and it was about the same quality. Besides, we'll never know how the above songs sounded in demo form. For all we know, many of them could have drastically changed. It was a three year gap between DOYS and DGSS. If i shit in a plastic cup and replayed that sound back for 3 minutes, it would be better than nature of reality. Don't tell me Millionaire in any form wasnt better. Noel just didnt want the others to put their best work on. Strange considering this was going out under the Oasis name. Suppose its better to justify wanting to ditch everyone to go solo though.
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Post by Let It 🩸 on Apr 19, 2017 11:11:53 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of something my dad said when I was five years old......"There's two bulls standing on top of a mountain. The younger one says to the older one: "Hey pop, let's say we run down there and fuck one of them cows". The older one says: "No son. Lets walk down and fuck 'em all".
God bless.
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Post by spaneli on Apr 19, 2017 11:30:06 GMT -5
4 songs out of how many on an album are hardly indicative of being held back? It's fair to say that Noel wasn't holding LAG back. Especially when DGSS was filled with Keep the Dream Alive and Ain't Got Nothing type songs. In fact, DGSS gave a pretty accurate picture of what LAG typically contributed to Oasis. Heights of goodness: TUTS and I'm Outta of Time and badness: Ain't Got Nothing and Keep the Dream Alive. I think it's pretty obvious we got exactly what LAG could do with/without Noel, and it was about the same quality. Besides, we'll never know how the above songs sounded in demo form. For all we know, many of them could have drastically changed. It was a three year gap between DOYS and DGSS. If i shit in a plastic cup and replayed that sound back for 3 minutes, it would be better than nature of reality. Don't tell me Millionaire in any form wasnt better. Noel just didnt want the others to put their best work on. Strange considering this was going out under the Oasis name. Suppose its better to justify wanting to ditch everyone to go solo though.But I'm Outta Time and Soldier On made it onto the record? Was that not some of Liam's best work? Or am I reaching, here? If Noel was out to get the LAG members, then why allow those songs on? The problem with this argument, is that you want it to be a blanket assumption, when there are clearly exceptions to your blanket assumption. Also, I'd say that Millionaire may not be worse than Nature of Reality, but Standing on the Edge of the Noise gives it some real competition. So....?
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Apr 19, 2017 11:52:38 GMT -5
If i shit in a plastic cup and replayed that sound back for 3 minutes, it would be better than nature of reality. Don't tell me Millionaire in any form wasnt better. Noel just didnt want the others to put their best work on. Strange considering this was going out under the Oasis name. Suppose its better to justify wanting to ditch everyone to go solo though.But I'm Outta Time and Soldier On made it onto the record? Was that not some of Liam's best work? Or am I reaching, here? If Noel was out to get the LAG members, then why allow those songs on? The problem with this argument, is that you want it to be a blanket assumption, when there are clearly exceptions to your blanket assumption. Also, I'd say that Millionaire may not be worse than Nature of Reality, but Standing on the Edge of the Noise gives it some real competition. So....? Boy With The Blues was better than most of what Noel written in the last 5 years of Oasis. If that was a man who cared about his band putting out their absolute best for his fans then he would have made sure it was structured right and on the album. Like he should have made sure Record Machine etc were recorded. The excuses were piss poor. As for standing on the edge of the noize, thats irrelevant to how good or band that song is, im talking about what should have made it onto an Oasis record.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Apr 19, 2017 12:20:58 GMT -5
I think he really will play DYKWIM, Be Here Now, Rocking Chair etc just to compete with Noel's save setlists and all. That alone makes the whole thing really interesting.
Funny thing is, if it's true, that's pretty close to bastard's setlist from this press rehearsal that he imagined / attented to.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 19, 2017 12:22:08 GMT -5
I don't know whether to laugh or yawn.
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Post by themightyeye on Apr 19, 2017 12:36:58 GMT -5
So we can pretty much confirm he's singing BE HERE NOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
On his tour....
Morning Glory is a guarantee
What else....
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Post by seanrulesrh on Apr 19, 2017 12:39:06 GMT -5
I want Soul Love. I dont know why but I love that song. Some DOYS or SOTSOG songs would be nice. (Gas Fucking Panic!)
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Post by themightyeye on Apr 19, 2017 12:39:40 GMT -5
Rocking Chair would be amazing live
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Post by Gas Panic on Apr 19, 2017 13:04:28 GMT -5
I want Soul Love. I dont know why but I love that song. Some DOYS or SOTSOG songs would be nice. (Gas Fucking Panic!) Gas Panic would be fucking awesome.
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Post by seanrulesrh on Apr 19, 2017 13:07:07 GMT -5
I want Soul Love. I dont know why but I love that song. Some DOYS or SOTSOG songs would be nice. (Gas Fucking Panic!) Gas Panic would be fucking awesome. Your profile pic says it all mate
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 13:43:34 GMT -5
I really wonder who the guitarist will be. I hope there will be some great solo's. Would love to hear a 12 minute version of Champagne Supernova again.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Apr 19, 2017 13:48:44 GMT -5
We talk about obscure songs but anything even remotely obscure will be met like My Big Mouth on the DOYS tour.
Why i preferred the crowd at Beady Eye, it was just more intense.
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Post by Jgrp on Apr 19, 2017 14:15:59 GMT -5
Why do we thing he's playing the BHN track?
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Post by mossy on Apr 19, 2017 14:18:28 GMT -5
Why do we thing he's playing the BHN track? He's tweeted lyrics to Be Here Now and D'You Know What I Mean while in band rehearsals.
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Post by spaneli on Apr 19, 2017 14:26:21 GMT -5
But I'm Outta Time and Soldier On made it onto the record? Was that not some of Liam's best work? Or am I reaching, here? If Noel was out to get the LAG members, then why allow those songs on? The problem with this argument, is that you want it to be a blanket assumption, when there are clearly exceptions to your blanket assumption. Also, I'd say that Millionaire may not be worse than Nature of Reality, but Standing on the Edge of the Noise gives it some real competition. So....? Boy With The Blues was better than most of what Noel written in the last 5 years of Oasis. If that was a man who cared about his band putting out their absolute best for his fans then he would have made sure it was structured right and on the album. Like he should have made sure Record Machine etc were recorded. The excuses were piss poor. As for standing on the edge of the noize, thats irrelevant to how good or band that song is, im talking about what should have made it onto an Oasis record. Honestly, Boy with the Blues should have been held back. It wasn't ready to be released. It's just an okay, incomplete song imo. How you think that it's better than what Noel's done in the past 5 years? I mean, alright. That's your opinion. My problem with the argument that Noel was gearing up for a solo career has always been: if he was holding back songs, then why did he put Falling Down (often considered a revival of his songwriting) on DOYS? Wouldn't it make sense to keep it off? And once again, if the issue is that he didn't include Boy with the Blues, he included I'm Outta Time, which he consistently said in interviews, was the best song on DOYS. Man, that Noel. That's the problem with these theories. They fall apart. Why can't people accept that Noel was actually pissed off? Why does there have to be some hidden alternative motive? This originally began with whether it was valid for LAG to think that Noel held them back. I don't know where you've taken it. But DGSS wasn't marketable better than any Oasis album. So the subtraction of Noel, in the end, didn't lead to Beady Eye doing something great...or even good. And whether Noel included this track or that track is actually irrelevant. Noel was holding himself back, but that's different from him holding LAG back, or stifling their songwriting/creativity, especially when two great songs from Liam were included. Personally, what I have always believed is that STC, RM, and Come on Outside, were never going to be on DOYS, whether Liam laid down vocals or not. It's really the only thing that makes sense. They had been around forever, but none of them actually fit the sound of DOYS. We've got about 2-3 versions of STC and RM, and none of them sound like DOYS. I have always highly doubted that they were anything more than demoed tracks that got eliminated later. What I believe happened is that they were demoed early, but were set aside for songs that fit the sound of DOYS. When Liam left, Noel became pissed and concocted the story about leaving songs off to make Liam look bad, but they were songs that he never had any intentions of including on DOYS. I think that's a far more likelier explanation, than Noel holding songs back for a solo career or trying to get songs on, but not being able to do so because Liam didn't show. It's far more convenient for Noel to blame Liam than to admit that he made the wrong tracklisting decisions imo. Like Get off Your High Horse Lady flows perfectly into Falling Down. That required some forethought. And yea, they could have gone out and recorded it quickly, but I don't believe they did. It's honestly too seamless of a transition to be by random chance. Anyways, in the end, If LAG were truly being held back by Noel, then one would have expected their next album to be better than DOYS. But even with Noel's poor tracklisting choices, DOYS might be better (and at least as good), as DGSS. So the idea that Noel was holding any of them back is muted by the product that Beady Eye put out, which was mostly uneven, as it was with Oasis.
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Post by Jgrp on Apr 19, 2017 14:34:06 GMT -5
Why do we thing he's playing the BHN track? He's tweeted lyrics to Be Here Now and D'You Know What I Mean while in band rehearsals. Thanks. I missed the BHN one. Round Are Way too
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