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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Feb 18, 2020 3:45:25 GMT -5
‘Gone’ was just featured on a tv show about 40 years of the Brit awards! Liam featured a few times on the show. Thought hed pop up somewhere. His little tribute song to Blur 😂 has to be one of the most memorable moments, along with pretending to shove the award up his arse
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Post by igotflair on Feb 18, 2020 5:27:58 GMT -5
If I can take only one song from Liam’s solo bubble, it’s Once.
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Post by GlastoEls on Feb 18, 2020 7:25:38 GMT -5
Me too, Once is the.. one!
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Post by captaincrankshaft on Feb 18, 2020 7:50:31 GMT -5
I think Once is a fucking belter of a song. I don’t give a flying fuck about the Cool/Pool/School nursery rhymes either. No, it’s not quite as good as Oasis back in the 90’s, but even Noel can’t do that anymore. This is as near as it will ever get these days. FIFY. Hahahahahaha there’s nothing wrong with a nursery rhymes rhyme let me tell you that, Zingers my boy!!
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Post by bt95 on Feb 18, 2020 12:03:36 GMT -5
I think Once is a fucking belter of a song. I don’t give a flying fuck about the Cool/Pool/School rhymes either. No, it’s not quite as good as Oasis back in the 90’s, but even Noel can’t do that anymore. This is as near as it will ever get these days. I'll admit the lyrics did grate me when I first heard them but now I'm not too bothered. As I've said - it always, for me, has been that it's felt a bit manufactured and really trying to be something. But I totally understand I'm in the minority there. It's just my opinion. Structurely and melodically I don't have any gripes. That chorus and the way it soars is absolutely up there with the best solo stuff for me. But overall as a vibe I just don't really rate it, even compared to the other songs on the album, mainly the 3 that follow it and then One Of Us. My point, and a rather muddled way of making it I do admit, is that I think it's a song that could be mass produced for any wannabe Liam Gallagher (i.e. Robbie) or your generic wannabe Oasis mid-00s ballad. That's just what I get from it. And I much prefer it when Liam/Noel don't do that. Because we have a brilliant back catalouge of songs that are actually the real thing imo. Even FWIW has a different, less obvious feel to it than me than Once, and that's by no means my favourite. But when I saw him in Manc I had a singalong to it and stuff. I'm not a grump about it. I just don't have the same love for it that a lot do.
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Post by igotflair on Feb 18, 2020 12:24:27 GMT -5
... It always, for me, has been that it's felt a bit manufactured and really trying to be something. But I totally understand I'm in the minority there. It's just my opinion. . I'm not a grump about it. I just don't have the same love for it that a lot do. I feel the same about Now That I’ve Found You. I feel that he should’ve taken his time and written a song himself for such an intimate thing. Even if it was a little bit shit like the one he wrote for Little James, or even unreleased and kept for just those people close to him, at least it would’ve come from him. Instead, it’s Take That Lite on a popsicle stick. Not a bad song at all, but the sentimental charm offensive is lost on me because of these reasons. Born On a Different Cloud, written for Lennon - different class. Outstanding songwriting. Slice it open and it’s got Liam’s heart and soul running right through it.
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Post by igotflair on Feb 18, 2020 13:00:50 GMT -5
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Post by bt95 on Feb 18, 2020 15:27:07 GMT -5
... It always, for me, has been that it's felt a bit manufactured and really trying to be something. But I totally understand I'm in the minority there. It's just my opinion. . I'm not a grump about it. I just don't have the same love for it that a lot do. I feel the same about Now The I’ve Found You. I feel that he should’ve taken his time and written a song himself for such an intimate thing. Even if it was a little bit shit like the one he wrote for Little James, or even unreleased and kept for just those people close to him, at least it would’ve come from him. Instead, it’s Take That Lite on a popsicle stick. Not a bad song at all, but the sentimental charm offensive is lost on me because of these reasons. Born On a Different Cloud, written for Lennon - different class. Outstanding songwriting. Slice it open and it’s got Liam’s heart and soul running right through it. Completely fair too. I do actually prefer the acoustic version to Now That I've Found You because it feels more meloncholy (like Rolo managed in his cover, actually). But I've been consistent on my indifference to Once and generally NTIFY is one of the 4-5 songs off WMWN that I've found myself going back to. I do like the poppyness of it and get the feeling that Liam's happy. I'll stress again my indifference for Once is because I feel like it's trying to be the 'standard' Oasis ballad and for me that doesn't cut it. But that's just my view. It doesn't make it a bad song, I just think it could be done by a lot of bands/artists. Whereas I think a song like One Of Us really works with Liam's voice and makes it unique (even though it has it's obvious influences), and same with a song like Bold or Greedy Soul.
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Post by igotflair on Feb 18, 2020 15:35:08 GMT -5
I feel the same about Now The I’ve Found You. I feel that he should’ve taken his time and written a song himself for such an intimate thing. Even if it was a little bit shit like the one he wrote for Little James, or even unreleased and kept for just those people close to him, at least it would’ve come from him. Instead, it’s Take That Lite on a popsicle stick. Not a bad song at all, but the sentimental charm offensive is lost on me because of these reasons. Born On a Different Cloud, written for Lennon - different class. Outstanding songwriting. Slice it open and it’s got Liam’s heart and soul running right through it. Completely fair too. I do actually prefer the acoustic version to Now That I've Found You because it feels more meloncholy (like Rolo managed in his cover, actually). But I've been consistent on my indifference to Once and generally NTIFY is one of the 4-5 songs off WMWN that I've found myself going back to. I do like the poppyness of it and get the feeling that Liam's happy. I'll stress again my indifference for Once is because I feel like it's trying to be the 'standard' Oasis ballad and for me that doesn't cut it. But that's just my view. It doesn't make it a bad song, I just think it could be done by a lot of bands/artists. Whereas I think a song like One Of Us really works with Liam's voice and makes it unique (even though it has it's obvious influences), and same with a song like Bold or Greedy Soul. Agree about NTIFY and did say on first listen it needs to be acoustic; I prefer it that way too. Regarding Once being written to sound Oasisesque, it might surprise you that it’s actually Be Still on the album which falls into that category.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 18, 2020 15:41:20 GMT -5
Completely fair too. I do actually prefer the acoustic version to Now That I've Found You because it feels more meloncholy (like Rolo managed in his cover, actually). But I've been consistent on my indifference to Once and generally NTIFY is one of the 4-5 songs off WMWN that I've found myself going back to. I do like the poppyness of it and get the feeling that Liam's happy. I'll stress again my indifference for Once is because I feel like it's trying to be the 'standard' Oasis ballad and for me that doesn't cut it. But that's just my view. It doesn't make it a bad song, I just think it could be done by a lot of bands/artists. Whereas I think a song like One Of Us really works with Liam's voice and makes it unique (even though it has it's obvious influences), and same with a song like Bold or Greedy Soul. Agree about NTIFY and did say on first listen it needs to be acoustic; I prefer it that way too. Regarding Once being written to sound Oasisesque, it might surprise you that it’s actually Be Still on the album which falls into that category. Fair enough! I mean, let's face it, with one of the key parts of Oasis being the main man here, every song is gonna be 'Oasisesque' to an extent. I just feel that Once is the example of LA guys trying to come up with the Oasis formula and not exactly hitting the mark. I know there's more to it than that and I'm sure Liam had a fair bit of involvement in it. It's just not one of my favourites but I think parts of it are genuinely great. Pretty much sums up the entire album for me. It's okay, with some really good bits. I'm in no rush to hear a WMNW? part II, though. I'd rather a more - considered, for lack of a better term - album to come next. Maybe a bit more 'exploration' of some different ideas/writing styles and push Liam's voice more and see what we get. If that means waiting another six months then I'd be happy to do it. I don't see the rush for more of the same.
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Post by igotflair on Feb 18, 2020 15:49:39 GMT -5
Agree about NTIFY and did say on first listen it needs to be acoustic; I prefer it that way too. Regarding Once being written to sound Oasisesque, it might surprise you that it’s actually Be Still on the album which falls into that category. Fair enough! I mean, let's face it, with one of the key parts of Oasis being the main man here, every song is gonna be 'Oasisesque' to an extent. I just feel that Once is the example of LA guys trying to come up with the Oasis formula and not exactly hitting the mark. I know there's more to it than that and I'm sure Liam had a fair bit of involvement in it. It's just not one of my favourites but I think parts of it are genuinely great. Pretty much sums up the entire album for me. It's okay, with some really good bits. I'm in no rush to hear a WMNW? part II, though. I'd rather a more - considered, for lack of a better term - album to come next. Maybe a bit more 'exploration' of some different ideas/writing styles and push Liam's voice more and see what we get. If that means waiting another six months then I'd be happy to do it. I don't see the rush for more of the same. When you’re in Milan, at the best gig you’ve ever been to, I mean seriously at the “leave me here to die” level, then you get hit with Once and there are tears streaming down peoples faces, on and off the stage, tears of joy, tears of hurt, tears of pride for the boy, of pure fucking emotion then look me in the blues and tell me it doesn’t get you right there, like nothing else in your world matters. My head is still scrambled. Liam’s head was gone, he was a mess. Fuck Wonderwall.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 18, 2020 18:23:56 GMT -5
Fair enough! I mean, let's face it, with one of the key parts of Oasis being the main man here, every song is gonna be 'Oasisesque' to an extent. I just feel that Once is the example of LA guys trying to come up with the Oasis formula and not exactly hitting the mark. I know there's more to it than that and I'm sure Liam had a fair bit of involvement in it. It's just not one of my favourites but I think parts of it are genuinely great. Pretty much sums up the entire album for me. It's okay, with some really good bits. I'm in no rush to hear a WMNW? part II, though. I'd rather a more - considered, for lack of a better term - album to come next. Maybe a bit more 'exploration' of some different ideas/writing styles and push Liam's voice more and see what we get. If that means waiting another six months then I'd be happy to do it. I don't see the rush for more of the same. When you’re in Milan, at the best gig you’ve ever been to, I mean seriously at the “leave me here to die” level, then you get hit with Once and there are tears streaming down peoples faces, on and off the stage, tears of joy, tears of hurt, tears of pride for the boy, of pure fucking emotion then look me in the blues and tell me it doesn’t get you right there, like nothing else in your world matters. My head is still scrambled. Liam’s head was gone, he was a mess. Fuck Wonderwall. From all the vids I'd seen it looked incredible. Glad it was a great night and glad Liam's smashing it! And fwiw (not the song!) I love the chorus in Once and the bit that soars up in the melody. It really is great.
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Post by PepsiNebula on Feb 20, 2020 22:10:49 GMT -5
Molly tells in Grazia magazine that 'Now That I’ve Found You' was a Christmas present and Liam played it to her on Christmas Day 2018. "Everyone was listening at the table getting emotional." The things that really stuck out for me in that article, which I didn't know before, were that she'd been in contact with Noel long before she ever met Liam, and that now she and Liam have a relationship, Noel doesn't talk to her anymore. That's rough.
Article link here, for the curious:
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 21, 2020 14:57:39 GMT -5
We’re entitled to our own opinions, but I cannot understand how anyone on this forum (real Oasis fans) could not like Once. The production on the album version is shit, but the melody is completely undeniable and his vocals are great. I don’t listen to the album version, but the bonus track and acoustic demo are available and it baffles my mind that people here think it’s a shit song. Also, in reference to the cool/pool/school bit, I think it fits the sentiment of the song, and the second verse lyrics are great.
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Post by Zingbot on Feb 21, 2020 15:07:48 GMT -5
I'm not mad, just disappointed.
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 21, 2020 15:20:20 GMT -5
I'm not mad, just disappointed. Don’t cherry-pick three words from a post and you shouldn’t be disappointed. I feel the same way about IIHAG, TDOTL, and DITW. Those and Once could be perceived as generic songs, but the soaring Oasis-like melodies are undeniable in my opinion. The acoustic guitar, singalong test is proof. Fuck the way things are ruined in production; a tune is a tune.
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Post by Zingbot on Feb 21, 2020 16:22:38 GMT -5
I'm not mad, just disappointed. Don’t cherry-pick three words from a post and you shouldn’t be disappointed. I feel the same way about IIHAG, TDOTL, and DITW. Those and Once could be perceived as generic songs, but the soaring Oasis-like melodies are undeniable in my opinion. The acoustic guitar, singalong test is proof. Fuck the way things are ruined in production; a tune is a tune. I 'cherry picked' three words because those were the three words I was disappointed with. Their's an ongoing notion that if you don't think a certain way you're not a real fan. As a 'real' Oasis fan, I don't like Once. It's trying way to hard to be an Oasis ballad. It doesn't appeal to me. I think during the brilliant streak Noel was on in the 90's, it would've been impossible for him to write something so boring. It's not bad, it might even be good, but it's a travesty to compare it to classic Noel. It's so blatant that it was trying to be something that Noel would've written in the 90's. Perhaps it succeeded, as a lot of people seem to love it, but as Liam would say, "Not for me, mate".
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Post by leron on Feb 21, 2020 16:44:28 GMT -5
I'm not mad, just disappointed. You like heathen chemistry, your opinion doesn't count Just joking xx
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 21, 2020 17:40:02 GMT -5
Don’t cherry-pick three words from a post and you shouldn’t be disappointed. I feel the same way about IIHAG, TDOTL, and DITW. Those and Once could be perceived as generic songs, but the soaring Oasis-like melodies are undeniable in my opinion. The acoustic guitar, singalong test is proof. Fuck the way things are ruined in production; a tune is a tune. I 'cherry picked' three words because those were the three words I was disappointed with. Their's an ongoing notion that if you don't think a certain way you're not a real fan. As a 'real' Oasis fan, I don't like Once. It's trying way to hard to be an Oasis ballad. It doesn't appeal to me. I think during the brilliant streak Noel was on in the 90's, it would've been impossible for him to write something so boring. It's not bad, it might even be good, but it's a travesty to compare it to classic Noel. It's so blatant that it was trying to be something that Noel would've written in the 90's. Perhaps it succeeded, as a lot of people seem to love it, but as Liam would say, "Not for me, mate". Like I thought, you are misrepresenting the words. What was said was that people on this forum are “real” Oasis fans.
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Post by Zingbot on Feb 21, 2020 18:15:13 GMT -5
I 'cherry picked' three words because those were the three words I was disappointed with. Their's an ongoing notion that if you don't think a certain way you're not a real fan. As a 'real' Oasis fan, I don't like Once. It's trying way to hard to be an Oasis ballad. It doesn't appeal to me. I think during the brilliant streak Noel was on in the 90's, it would've been impossible for him to write something so boring. It's not bad, it might even be good, but it's a travesty to compare it to classic Noel. It's so blatant that it was trying to be something that Noel would've written in the 90's. Perhaps it succeeded, as a lot of people seem to love it, but as Liam would say, "Not for me, mate". Like I thought, you are misrepresenting the words. What was said was that people on this forum are “real” Oasis fans. Oh, if that is indeed what you meant, I apologize.
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Post by thomaslivesforever on Feb 21, 2020 19:56:01 GMT -5
I'm not mad, just disappointed. You like heathen chemistry, your opinion doesn't count Just joking xx Half joking.
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Post by matt on Feb 21, 2020 20:28:47 GMT -5
I think Once is a fucking belter of a song. I don’t give a flying fuck about the Cool/Pool/School rhymes either. No, it’s not quite as good as Oasis back in the 90’s, but even Noel can’t do that anymore. This is as near as it will ever get these days. Once is fine, but there's way way better Liam songs out there. It does sound like a bunch of industry songwriters trying to make a Noel Gallagher song. Tunes that Oasis never touched upon, like One Of Us, are far far far superior. It's certainly no Dead In The Water, and certainly not up there with the best of Who Built The Moon. If you want the sentimentality of the kind that Once provides, well Noel still does it better than anyone Liam hires.
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Post by liammuc on Feb 22, 2020 3:10:29 GMT -5
Once is a special song as far as I'm concerned, I'll never get bored of that chorus. Same here! Especially the 2 versions on the recent Acoustic EP! Can't get enough of these!
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 22, 2020 9:04:20 GMT -5
I think Once is a fucking belter of a song. I don’t give a flying fuck about the Cool/Pool/School rhymes either. No, it’s not quite as good as Oasis back in the 90’s, but even Noel can’t do that anymore. This is as near as it will ever get these days. Once is fine, but there's way way better Liam songs out there. It does sound like a bunch of industry songwriters trying to make a Noel Gallagher song. Tunes that Oasis never touched upon, like One Of Us, are far far far superior. It's certainly no Dead In The Water, and certainly not up there with the best of Who Built The Moon. If you want the sentimentality of the kind that Once provides, well Noel still does it better than anyone Liam hires. Which songs on WBTM are you referencing? That album is almost devoid of the standard Noel-type songs and that’s why it’s so divisive amongst fans. The reason I have disliked almost everything he’s released since the WBTM cycle is because the melodies are flat, there aren’t those stereotypical choruses, and his voice sounds passionless.
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 22, 2020 9:11:54 GMT -5
Like I thought, you are misrepresenting the words. What was said was that people on this forum are “real” Oasis fans. Oh, if that is indeed what you meant, I apologize. Not trying to be an asshole, but I wrote it the way I did to mean exactly what it said. I don’t know how someone could take it wrong if they read the entire post.
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