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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 12, 2021 5:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by mancraider on Mar 14, 2021 7:18:05 GMT -5
Total speculation here, but I'm bored at work lol, but.. I've noticed there is some songs on Ascap with him as co writer with Nikhil Johnston and one with a Nathan Gandhi as well. Songs are Come on and hurt me If they fall... live Monkey Run Origin Revolver Tease. I noticed them a while ago, and they are definitely Liams as they are on same profile with all his solo and Oasis songs. The reason its came to mind today is I seen this article on an 'Indian John Wicks' movie on netflix and wondered if it could be anything to do with it considering the names of his co writers and he has name checked India recently on twitter as somewhere he was interested in visiting. Of course there could be many reasons, including just a fuck up by the website, but it's got me wondering if there is more to it. www.ign.com/articles/netflix-john-wick-in-mumbai-dev-patel-movie-reportedly-bought-for-30-million
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Post by jh on Mar 14, 2021 10:01:52 GMT -5
Ha ha 😂 never seen this before! Sad to say it made day
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Post by darmin on Mar 14, 2021 10:54:38 GMT -5
Total speculation here, but I'm bored at work lol, but.. I've noticed there is some songs on Ascap with him as co writer with Nikhil Johnston and one with a Nathan Gandhi as well. Songs are Come on and hurt me If they fall... live Monkey Run Origin Revolver Tease. I noticed them a while ago, and they are definitely Liams as they are on same profile with all his solo and Oasis songs. The reason its came to mind today is I seen this article on an 'Indian John Wicks' movie on netflix and wondered if it could be anything to do with it considering the names of his co writers and he has name checked India recently on twitter as somewhere he was interested in visiting. Of course there could be many reasons, including just a fuck up by the website, but it's got me wondering if there is more to it. www.ign.com/articles/netflix-john-wick-in-mumbai-dev-patel-movie-reportedly-bought-for-30-millionInteresting speculation but most likely it’s just mess up by the site. Liam didn’t change his collaborators as far as we know. Also if he started to work on a new project he’d tweet about it, he isn’t secretive
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 12:02:45 GMT -5
Total speculation here, but I'm bored at work lol, but.. I've noticed there is some songs on Ascap with him as co writer with Nikhil Johnston and one with a Nathan Gandhi as well. Songs are Come on and hurt me If they fall... live Monkey Run Origin Revolver Tease. I noticed them a while ago, and they are definitely Liams as they are on same profile with all his solo and Oasis songs. The reason its came to mind today is I seen this article on an 'Indian John Wicks' movie on netflix and wondered if it could be anything to do with it considering the names of his co writers and he has name checked India recently on twitter as somewhere he was interested in visiting. Of course there could be many reasons, including just a fuck up by the website, but it's got me wondering if there is more to it. www.ign.com/articles/netflix-john-wick-in-mumbai-dev-patel-movie-reportedly-bought-for-30-millionIt's a mistake, different Liam Gallagher from a band called Luva Gunk: luvagunk.bandcamp.com/
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Post by mancraider on Mar 14, 2021 12:22:58 GMT -5
Total speculation here, but I'm bored at work lol, but.. I've noticed there is some songs on Ascap with him as co writer with Nikhil Johnston and one with a Nathan Gandhi as well. Songs are Come on and hurt me If they fall... live Monkey Run Origin Revolver Tease. I noticed them a while ago, and they are definitely Liams as they are on same profile with all his solo and Oasis songs. The reason its came to mind today is I seen this article on an 'Indian John Wicks' movie on netflix and wondered if it could be anything to do with it considering the names of his co writers and he has name checked India recently on twitter as somewhere he was interested in visiting. Of course there could be many reasons, including just a fuck up by the website, but it's got me wondering if there is more to it. www.ign.com/articles/netflix-john-wick-in-mumbai-dev-patel-movie-reportedly-bought-for-30-millionIt's a mistake, different Liam Gallagher from a band called Luva Gunk: luvagunk.bandcamp.com/fair enough lol. Just wondered if he been secretly recording a soundtrack or something. Poor mistake by the website in that case.
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Post by oasisserbia on Mar 14, 2021 13:06:37 GMT -5
Ha ha 😂 never seen this before! Sad to say it made day Thats because Ive only posted it here xD
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Post by jh on Mar 15, 2021 4:07:20 GMT -5
Ha ha 😂 never seen this before! Sad to say it made day Thats because Ive only posted it here xD That would be the reason then ha ha.
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 19, 2021 14:14:31 GMT -5
I see that there's some new merchandise available on Liam's official website not that I want anything though. Mind you, nothing looks new to me but that's what it says on Stop Crying Your Heart Out.
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Post by tiger40 on Mar 24, 2021 14:32:08 GMT -5
I wonder if we will get an official release of Liam's Down By The River gig in the next few months. I really hope so.
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Post by andymorris on Apr 2, 2021 7:52:31 GMT -5
Hello Liam ? (Although i suppose his’ are ok with this) Songwriters' group demands artists stop taking credit for hits they didn't write Songwriters who have worked with hit artists released an open letter on Tuesday calling out the inequality in the music industry and demanding more credit. These songwriters include Justin Tranter, Emily Warren and Ross Golan, and they have worked with artists such as Khalid and Ariana Grande. "This body of songwriters will not give publishing or songwriting credit to anyone who did not create or change the lyric or melody or otherwise contribute to the composition without a reasonably equivalent/meaningful exchange for all the writers on the song," the group said in an open letter www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/01/songwriters-ask-artists-to-stop-taking-credit-for-hits-they-didnt-write.html
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Post by Jessica on Apr 2, 2021 15:12:13 GMT -5
Hello Liam ? (Although i suppose his’ are ok with this) Songwriters' group demands artists stop taking credit for hits they didn't write Songwriters who have worked with hit artists released an open letter on Tuesday calling out the inequality in the music industry and demanding more credit. These songwriters include Justin Tranter, Emily Warren and Ross Golan, and they have worked with artists such as Khalid and Ariana Grande. "This body of songwriters will not give publishing or songwriting credit to anyone who did not create or change the lyric or melody or otherwise contribute to the composition without a reasonably equivalent/meaningful exchange for all the writers on the song," the group said in an open letter www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/01/songwriters-ask-artists-to-stop-taking-credit-for-hits-they-didnt-write.htmlThey're probably in the better position as producers and having much greater involvement in his projects as a whole. Plus he has more physical sales.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 2, 2021 16:19:41 GMT -5
Hello Liam ? (Although i suppose his’ are ok with this) Songwriters' group demands artists stop taking credit for hits they didn't write Songwriters who have worked with hit artists released an open letter on Tuesday calling out the inequality in the music industry and demanding more credit. These songwriters include Justin Tranter, Emily Warren and Ross Golan, and they have worked with artists such as Khalid and Ariana Grande. "This body of songwriters will not give publishing or songwriting credit to anyone who did not create or change the lyric or melody or otherwise contribute to the composition without a reasonably equivalent/meaningful exchange for all the writers on the song," the group said in an open letter www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/01/songwriters-ask-artists-to-stop-taking-credit-for-hits-they-didnt-write.htmlWriters deserve fair pay, especially for big hit songs, and there is too much inequity in the music industry overall. But it's worth mentioning that we have no idea at all what Liam's publishing contracts look like with the 3 writers who mostly make up his "army" and who in many cases get co-writing and as Jessica mentioned producing credit (which is quite different from some of the hits mentioned in the article, which insanely have as many as 12 writers credited, which means each one gets a teeny percentage of an already small piece of pie.) They might have few complaints.
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Post by andymorris on Apr 3, 2021 11:47:56 GMT -5
Hello Liam ? (Although i suppose his’ are ok with this) Songwriters' group demands artists stop taking credit for hits they didn't write Songwriters who have worked with hit artists released an open letter on Tuesday calling out the inequality in the music industry and demanding more credit. These songwriters include Justin Tranter, Emily Warren and Ross Golan, and they have worked with artists such as Khalid and Ariana Grande. "This body of songwriters will not give publishing or songwriting credit to anyone who did not create or change the lyric or melody or otherwise contribute to the composition without a reasonably equivalent/meaningful exchange for all the writers on the song," the group said in an open letter www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/01/songwriters-ask-artists-to-stop-taking-credit-for-hits-they-didnt-write.htmlWriters deserve fair pay, especially for big hit songs, and there is too much inequity in the music industry overall. But it's worth mentioning that we have no idea at all what Liam's publishing contracts look like with the 3 writers who mostly make up his "army" and who in many cases get co-writing and as Jessica mentioned producing credit (which is quite different from some of the hits mentioned in the article, which insanely have as many as 12 writers credited, which means each one gets a teeny percentage of an already small piece of pie.) They might have few complaints. Of course we dont know what their deal is, but looking at the second album credits, maybe they traded songwriting credits for producing credits because he is credited in all songs, which wasn't the case for the first one. that way everybody wins. Liam cant possibly get producing credits because he knows fuck all about it. But he needs songwriting credits to stay a bit relevant to annoying fans like me who look into things. And for reviewers who no doubt would mention it if he didnt have any songwriting input. That would look bad. It's a great deal for those guys no question, just highlighting the behind the scene semi-lie of all this.
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 3, 2021 13:22:13 GMT -5
The thing is if Liam co wrote the songs on the last album then surely he deserves some credit too. And, how do we know that Liam knows nothing about producing as he might know something.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 3, 2021 17:09:12 GMT -5
Writers deserve fair pay, especially for big hit songs, and there is too much inequity in the music industry overall. But it's worth mentioning that we have no idea at all what Liam's publishing contracts look like with the 3 writers who mostly make up his "army" and who in many cases get co-writing and as Jessica mentioned producing credit (which is quite different from some of the hits mentioned in the article, which insanely have as many as 12 writers credited, which means each one gets a teeny percentage of an already small piece of pie.) They might have few complaints. Of course we dont know what their deal is, but looking at the second album credits, maybe they traded songwriting credits for producing credits because he is credited in all songs, which wasn't the case for the first one. that way everybody wins. Liam cant possibly get producing credits because he knows fuck all about it. But he needs songwriting credits to stay a bit relevant to annoying fans like me who look into things. And for reviewers who no doubt would mention it if he didnt have any songwriting input. That would look bad. It's a great deal for those guys no question, just highlighting the behind the scene semi-lie of all this. Well, I know your skepticism. But all any of us can do in these matters is speculate. It's certainly true that it's become typical of publishing deals for "name" artists to get a piece of the publishing, even when they have the tiniest input in the writing, which I believe has more to do with money than how critics will react. But it's also true that we just don't know what input Liam has had song-by-song. (And my total guesses as to which co-credited songs have more of his personal lyrics or riffs might be different from yours.) But to be fair, he's certainly not run around pretending as if he wrote the majority of his albums himself -- he's been upfront that he's grateful for having help. So not sure where the lie is. I also really don't think music critics in general care if Liam writes all his songs or not. It doesn't look bad for him any more than it looks bad for Adele or Harry Styles, and they're doing just fine last I checked. He's a singer and a persona and has never, ever, even for a little while, classed himself as a singer-songwriter. He brings a lot of himself (that "Liam-ness") to what he does, anyway, so if it feels like Liam and it's a good record, people will back it. But I get that it's a personal thing for you -- that um, er, all you're dreaming of is for LG to write 9 deeply personal bangers in one go and make a true solo album... to which I can only say ... um, er, dream on.
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Post by powerage09 on Apr 3, 2021 17:09:24 GMT -5
The thing is if Liam co wrote the songs on the last album then surely he deserves some credit too. And, how do we know that Liam knows nothing about producing as he might know something. He has been making records for nearly 30 years, he may not spend hours in the studio pouring over compression techniques or automation or the pro's and cons of tape vs pro-tools but to suggest he knows nothing about production seems unlikely to me, even if he only makes requests during playback. Songwriting credits, publishing and production are often the most fought over parts of being in a band anyway, someone is always working to hard vs others not pulling their weight, people vying to get songs on an album and scoop up the credits. In the past thats where all the money was.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 3, 2021 17:19:04 GMT -5
He has been making records for nearly 30 years, he may not spend hours in the studio pouring over compression techniques or automation or the pro's and cons of tape vs pro-tools but to suggest he knows nothing about production seems unlikely to me, even if he only makes requests during playback. Songwriting credits, publishing and production are often the most fought over parts of being in a band anyway, someone is always working to hard vs others not pulling their weight, people vying to get songs on an album and scoop up the credits. In the past thats where all the money was. Publishing is still where the money is. That's why Noel is wealthier than Liam ... and he's sitting on a gold mine.
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Post by freddy838 on Apr 3, 2021 17:30:20 GMT -5
I trust Liam to give more credit to others when it comes to the songs than I do Noel tbh
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Post by andymorris on Apr 4, 2021 1:49:21 GMT -5
But to be fair, he's certainly not run around pretending as if he wrote the majority of his albums himself -- he's been upfront that he's grateful for having help. So not sure where the lie is. This is where i respectfully disagree. In the interviews i read for the second record, and they are grey enough to make it seem like Liam has major, or some input in all the songs. When in fact he probably doesn't, bar the Come on or the Yeah yeah. It's never really explained in details how those songs are written, and Liam obviously tries to not talk about it. As for the 10 track album written by only Liam Gallagher, it will happen someday. I'm hopeful. Who would have thought Liam would end up singing industry songs ? No one. So it can happen still.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Apr 4, 2021 4:06:20 GMT -5
This is where i respectfully disagree. In the interviews i read for the second record, and they are grey enough to make it seem like Liam has major, or some input in all the songs. When in fact he probably doesn't, bar the Come on or the Yeah yeah. It's never really explained in details how those songs are written, and Liam obviously tries to not talk about it. As for the 10 track album written by only Liam Gallagher, it will happen someday. I'm hopeful. Who would have thought Liam would end up singing industry songs ? No one. So it can happen still. Hmmm, could you maybe link an example of an interview you’ve seen where he talked as if he had written most of the songs on the 2nd album? Such is my obsession I'm afraid that I’ve seen/read a large number of interviews in the last several years…and I have never once seen Liam come across like that. Totally the opposite. Liam in The Guardiian: “Ideally, you want to do it yourself,” he said. “But I can’t write those fucking big songs. I’m limited. My verses are up there, but I just can’t do that next bit." Liam in Entertainment Weekly: “I love music, full stop. I’d love to be able to write a whole album, but that’s just not the way it is. I don’t really sweat over it. I just want to be a part of good music. I’m not into music to make money. I already have enough money. So I’m not one of them persons who go out to write a song because I need to get a publishing deal. I couldn’t give a f–k about that. I just want to make good music and get out on the road and play good music to the people who come to the concerts and that’s it.” Liam in Paste: While many people are probably itching to hear an album entirely penned by “our kid,” Liam just doesn’t think his writing skills are up to snuff. “I’ve tried,” Gallagher says. “It wouldn’t happen. I’m good at verses. I can bang out verses all day long, but when it comes to the choruses, I need someone else to do that. That’s only because of the guitar playing really, so I prefer to pass it on for the choruses.” He's constantly saying he’s relied heavily on Kurstin and Wyatt and he’s constantly saying he doesn’t believe he can write an album (or at least not the kind of album he'd like to make) on his own. I can see how you might disagree with him or think he hasn’t tried hard enough, but I can’t see how he is lying. I totally respect that you find it distasteful that Liam works with “industry writers.” For me, it is what it is. It’s really hard to imagine how Liam could just have teamed up with another band after having had the Oasis experience and he felt he wasn’t going to get there completely on his own, so he found a way. Also, though I made a silly joke about it, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with dreaming of him 100% writing an album. Maybe he will. Life is full of unexpected turns. I’d love to see it happen. But I just don’t think it’s fair to say he has taken credit for others’ work unless you can produce an example.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Apr 4, 2021 5:24:42 GMT -5
But to be fair, he's certainly not run around pretending as if he wrote the majority of his albums himself -- he's been upfront that he's grateful for having help. So not sure where the lie is. This is where i respectfully disagree. In the interviews i read for the second record, and they are grey enough to make it seem like Liam has major, or some input in all the songs. When in fact he probably doesn't, bar the Come on or the Yeah yeah. It's never really explained in details how those songs are written, and Liam obviously tries to not talk about it. As for the 10 track album written by only Liam Gallagher, it will happen someday. I'm hopeful. Who would have thought Liam would end up singing industry songs ? No one. So it can happen still. Where in fact he probably .... these words sum up pure speculation. No critic but that just made me giggle.
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Post by tiger40 on Apr 4, 2021 12:38:21 GMT -5
The thing is if Liam co wrote the songs on the last album then surely he deserves some credit too. And, how do we know that Liam knows nothing about producing as he might know something. He has been making records for nearly 30 years, he may not spend hours in the studio pouring over compression techniques or automation or the pro's and cons of tape vs pro-tools but to suggest he knows nothing about production seems unlikely to me, even if he only makes requests during playback. Songwriting credits, publishing and production are often the most fought over parts of being in a band anyway, someone is always working to hard vs others not pulling their weight, people vying to get songs on an album and scoop up the credits. In the past thats where all the money was. It wasn't me who said that Liam knows nothing about producing music that was Andy Morris and that's why I said what I did in my reply. And, I know that he's been making music for 30 years which must give him some experience of it surely.
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Post by powerage09 on Apr 4, 2021 17:07:13 GMT -5
He has been making records for nearly 30 years, he may not spend hours in the studio pouring over compression techniques or automation or the pro's and cons of tape vs pro-tools but to suggest he knows nothing about production seems unlikely to me, even if he only makes requests during playback. Songwriting credits, publishing and production are often the most fought over parts of being in a band anyway, someone is always working to hard vs others not pulling their weight, people vying to get songs on an album and scoop up the credits. In the past thats where all the money was. It wasn't me who said that Liam knows nothing about producing music that was Andy Morris and that's why I said what I did in my reply. And, I know that he's been making music for 30 years which must give him some experience of it surely. Yeah sorry I was agreeing with you in a long winded way.
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Post by freddy838 on Apr 5, 2021 9:36:26 GMT -5
This is where i respectfully disagree. In the interviews i read for the second record, and they are grey enough to make it seem like Liam has major, or some input in all the songs. When in fact he probably doesn't, bar the Come on or the Yeah yeah. It's never really explained in details how those songs are written, and Liam obviously tries to not talk about it. As for the 10 track album written by only Liam Gallagher, it will happen someday. I'm hopeful. Who would have thought Liam would end up singing industry songs ? No one. So it can happen still. Hmmm, could you maybe link an example of an interview you’ve seen where he talked as if he had written most of the songs on the 2nd album? Such is my obsession I'm afraid that I’ve seen/read a large number of interviews in the last several years…and I have never once seen Liam come across like that. Totally the opposite. Liam in The Guardiian: “Ideally, you want to do it yourself,” he said. “But I can’t write those fucking big songs. I’m limited. My verses are up there, but I just can’t do that next bit." Liam in Entertainment Weekly: “I love music, full stop. I’d love to be able to write a whole album, but that’s just not the way it is. I don’t really sweat over it. I just want to be a part of good music. I’m not into music to make money. I already have enough money. So I’m not one of them persons who go out to write a song because I need to get a publishing deal. I couldn’t give a f–k about that. I just want to make good music and get out on the road and play good music to the people who come to the concerts and that’s it.” Liam in Paste: While many people are probably itching to hear an album entirely penned by “our kid,” Liam just doesn’t think his writing skills are up to snuff. “I’ve tried,” Gallagher says. “It wouldn’t happen. I’m good at verses. I can bang out verses all day long, but when it comes to the choruses, I need someone else to do that. That’s only because of the guitar playing really, so I prefer to pass it on for the choruses.” He's constantly saying he’s relied heavily on Kurstin and Wyatt and he’s constantly saying he doesn’t believe he can write an album (or at least not the kind of album he'd like to make) on his own. I can see how you might disagree with him or think he hasn’t tried hard enough, but I can’t see how he is lying. I totally respect that you find it distasteful that Liam works with “industry writers.” For me, it is what it is. It’s really hard to imagine how Liam could just have teamed up with another band after having had the Oasis experience and he felt he wasn’t going to get there completely on his own, so he found a way. Also, though I made a silly joke about it, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with dreaming of him 100% writing an album. Maybe he will. Life is full of unexpected turns. I’d love to see it happen. But I just don’t think it’s fair to say he has taken credit for others’ work unless you can produce an example. Absolutely this. I think I can pretty reliably tell which parts Liam did and didn't write on his albums, in fact it tallies pretty well with what he says about being able to write verses and that's about it. A whole album written by Liam would be shocking for various reasons.
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