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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 16:41:04 GMT -5
They went with "vibe" instead of taking the best tracks from the period.
It's the closest Oasis ever got to a "concept album" of sorts. Sadly, doing this made for some terrible tracks getting thru and on the album.
I still maintain that thru the first 7 tracks DOYS is as good as anything Oasis ever released. Unfortunately, there are 4 more tracks on that album. They would have been better going Foo Fighter's on it and releasing an album of only 8 tracks!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 22, 2016 16:50:48 GMT -5
They would have been better going Foo Fighter's on it and releasing an album of only 8 tracks! The backlash about that on here would be insane too, though (And I'd lead the criticism). "3 year break and only 8 tracks!? FACK OFF" |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jan 22, 2016 16:55:41 GMT -5
Dig Out Your Soul
Dig Out Yer Sole
Dig Owt Yer Sowle
Gid Tuo Ruoy Luos
luoS ruoY tuO giD
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jan 22, 2016 16:56:53 GMT -5
They went with "vibe" instead of taking the best tracks from the period. It's the closest Oasis ever got to a "concept album" of sorts. Sadly, doing this made for some terrible tracks getting thru and on the album. I still maintain that thru the first 7 tracks DOYS is as good as anything Oasis ever released. Unfortunately, there are 4 more tracks on that album. They would have been better going Foo Fighter's on it and releasing an album of only 8 tracks! The only vibe Noels got is the one he ordered from ann summers. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 22, 2016 16:58:01 GMT -5
They went with "vibe" instead of taking the best tracks from the period. It's the closest Oasis ever got to a "concept album" of sorts. Sadly, doing this made for some terrible tracks getting thru and on the album. I still maintain that thru the first 7 tracks DOYS is as good as anything Oasis ever released. Unfortunately, there are 4 more tracks on that album. They would have been better going Foo Fighter's on it and releasing an album of only 8 tracks! The only vibe Noels got is the one he ordered from ann summers. Y'know what I mean? Is that the vibe? You know it. |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Jan 22, 2016 17:00:04 GMT -5
The only vibe Noels got is the one he ordered from ann summers. Y'know what I mean? Is that the vibe? You know it. You're clever kid. You'll go far. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 17:02:17 GMT -5
They would have been better going Foo Fighter's on it and releasing an album of only 8 tracks! The backlash about that on here would be insane too, though (And I'd lead the criticism). "3 year break and only 8 tracks!? FACK OFF" You miss the point. They could release more material between cycles if they kept some of it off the album. The added tracks bring nothing to the album outside of taking up space. |
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 22, 2016 17:13:20 GMT -5
Liam: "I've heard his f---king new record 'cos I f---ing sung on half of it!"
"When I was in America for 'Dig Out Your Soul' he swiped some [tracks] off it because he obviously knew he wanted to do a solo album. So he can talk all the bulls--t about, 'Oh, I was intimidated,' and all that. F---ing nonsense. Behave. He knows. The people know. And I know. So no, it's not better and it won't get any f---ing better."www.clashmusic.com/news/noel-gallagher-stealing-from-oasis |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 22, 2016 17:25:23 GMT -5
The backlash about that on here would be insane too, though (And I'd lead the criticism). "3 year break and only 8 tracks!? FACK OFF" You miss the point. They could release more material between cycles if they kept some of it off the album. The added tracks bring nothing to the album outside of taking up space. But that's only evidenced in hindsight. What if, for example, Noel took off both Columbia and Bring It On Down from DM (and kept Shakermaker and Up In the Sky). Look, there's no way around making us happy. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 22, 2016 17:26:19 GMT -5
Liam: "I've heard his f---king new record 'cos I f---ing sung on half of it!"
"When I was in America for 'Dig Out Your Soul' he swiped some [tracks] off it because he obviously knew he wanted to do a solo album. So he can talk all the bulls--t about, 'Oh, I was intimidated,' and all that. F---ing nonsense. Behave. He knows. The people know. And I know. So no, it's not better and it won't get any f---ing better."www.clashmusic.com/news/noel-gallagher-stealing-from-oasisYou're quoting an over-emotional and angry Liam. You really think he brings an unbiased point? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2016 17:30:59 GMT -5
Liam: "I've heard his f---king new record 'cos I f---ing sung on half of it!"
"When I was in America for 'Dig Out Your Soul' he swiped some [tracks] off it because he obviously knew he wanted to do a solo album. So he can talk all the bulls--t about, 'Oh, I was intimidated,' and all that. F---ing nonsense. Behave. He knows. The people know. And I know. So no, it's not better and it won't get any f---ing better."www.clashmusic.com/news/noel-gallagher-stealing-from-oasisYou're quoting an over-emotional and angry Liam. You really think he brings an unbiased point? Or you can believe Noel because we all know he speaks always the truth. |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 22, 2016 20:19:16 GMT -5
The backlash about that on here would be insane too, though (And I'd lead the criticism). "3 year break and only 8 tracks!? FACK OFF" You miss the point. They could release more material between cycles if they kept some of it off the album. The added tracks bring nothing to the album outside of taking up space. I got your point with it, although the problem with that idea is Noel and Gem (if I am remembering the 'Gold &Silver' documentary and other interviews correctly) have talked about making flowing albums and not creating just tracks, so they probably wouldn't cut it down to a minimum requirement of eight songs. The problem is when they have talked about making albums for me the filler is just that- filler. Whereas you can look at sixties and seventies classic albums and take a track that on it's on might not be that strong but in the context of it's album works well, with Oasis this hasn't been the case on their post-2000 output. The usual fault of band choices, producers and no-one questioning them or they are but were ignored seemingly occurred quite regularly through that period. |
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Post by World71R on Jan 23, 2016 0:49:28 GMT -5
Andy didn't even want The Nature of Reality on Dig Out Your Soul iirc. Andy had made a 5-track demo and put the running order of the songs from what he considered the best to worst; TNOR was the last song... Enter Noel, who liked the riff enough to put what Andy considered the worst song of the five on the album. Just out of curiosity, do you know what the rest of the order looked like? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 1:51:29 GMT -5
Personally, I think Noel Gallagher was the best songwriter in Oasis. yarp but I honestly think Liam was putting out some great stuff on those last couple of albums, obviously not Noel standard but with Noel seemingly contributing towards melody etc he had some good stuff, Liam tends to write very similiar songs so he doesnt get much of a scope out there though they are either 2 minute rockers or acoustic ballads really. Some of Liam's songs are quite good, like I'm Outta Time, Songbird and Born On A Different Cloud, but they're SO Lennon it hurts. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 2:08:22 GMT -5
Yeah I don't get some peoples fascination with The Roller. I think it's pretty shite If it was an Oasis tune it'd be in the bottom 10 It was meant to be an Oasis tune from as early as December 2000 when Noel in a Select Magazine interview said Gem had written it as his first tune for the band- Oasis Interviews BlogspotI presume either they never attempted to record it or couldn't get it sounding how they wanted to, either that or it was vetoed as a song most likely by Noel IMO if that was the case. This is what Noel said about it in the AMA thing: "Oh, thank you very much. The Oasis version of "The Roller" is... in somebody's... demo CD collection CD, somewhere. Not mine, I might add. Somebody will have it. Gem will probably have a copy of it. As has Liam, no doubt." I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they did try to record it but couldn't get it right. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 23, 2016 2:10:47 GMT -5
You're quoting an over-emotional and angry Liam. You really think he brings an unbiased point? Or you can believe Noel because we all know he speaks always the truth. The timeline of when the songs on HFB's has been gone over god knows how many times. The same answers come up. IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, Broken Arrow, and the Death of You and Me. That's given not just through Noel's quotes, but also the production of demos and soundchecks. The only songs on the album that are for sure from a moment when Liam could have sung them are RM, STC, and I believe Dream On. Most of the High Flying Birds was either written on the road during DOYS or post Oasis. There's nothing that supports Liam's claim. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 2:13:11 GMT -5
Or you can believe Noel because we all know he speaks always the truth. The timeline of when the songs on HFB's has been gone over god knows how many times. The same answers come up. IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, Broken Arrow, and the Death of You and Me. That's given not just through Noel's quotes, but also the production of demos and soundchecks. The only songs on the album that are for sure from a moment when Liam could have sung them are RM, STC, and I believe Dream On. Most of the High Flying Birds was either written on the road during DOYS or post Oasis. There's nothing that supports Liam's claim. But it's so much more fun to ignore all of that and to come up with conspiracy theories that don't make any sense!  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 2:15:13 GMT -5
The Roller would have made the album worse. It shouldn't have been on DOYS, but it would've made HC or DBTT a bit better imo. |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jan 23, 2016 3:00:04 GMT -5
As someone said he doesn't get the hype for the roller.
I really don't understand the hype for Come on outside...
Some people here seem to see it as a lost "rock n roll star"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 4:44:50 GMT -5
Or you can believe Noel because we all know he speaks always the truth. The timeline of when the songs on HFB's has been gone over god knows how many times. The same answers come up. IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, Broken Arrow, and the Death of You and Me. That's given not just through Noel's quotes, but also the production of demos and soundchecks. The only songs on the album that are for sure from a moment when Liam could have sung them are RM, STC, and I believe Dream On. Most of the High Flying Birds was either written on the road during DOYS or post Oasis. There's nothing that supports Liam's claim. When were IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, BA and TDOYAM written? If those songs were around during the DOYS sessions why Liam said that. I can imagine Liam singing EOTR, SB&JF, BA, RM and STC. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 5:46:41 GMT -5
The timeline of when the songs on HFB's has been gone over god knows how many times. The same answers come up. IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, Broken Arrow, and the Death of You and Me. That's given not just through Noel's quotes, but also the production of demos and soundchecks. The only songs on the album that are for sure from a moment when Liam could have sung them are RM, STC, and I believe Dream On. Most of the High Flying Birds was either written on the road during DOYS or post Oasis. There's nothing that supports Liam's claim. When were IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, BA and TDOYAM written? If those songs were around during the DOYS sessions why Liam said that. I can imagine Liam singing EOTR, SB&JF, BA, RM and STC. RM and STC were, but the others you mention were written during or after the DOYS tour. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 5:52:22 GMT -5
When were IIHAG, EOTR, WAL, SB&JF, BA and TDOYAM written? If those songs were around during the DOYS sessions why Liam said that. I can imagine Liam singing EOTR, SB&JF, BA, RM and STC. RM and STC were, but the others you mention were written during or after the DOYS tour. Source? |
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Post by carlober on Jan 23, 2016 5:55:54 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 5:59:19 GMT -5
RM and STC were, but the others you mention were written during or after the DOYS tour. Source? Read spaneli's post again. That should be clear enough. Enough soundchecks and demo evidence. Of course that demo bit doesn't necessarily mean it was written then, but there's no evidence that supports Liam's claim either. I did remember Freaky Teeth being around in 2008, but that was written after the DOYS sessions: www.nme.com/news/oasis/39763 |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 23, 2016 6:00:36 GMT -5
So was Everybody's on the run (during the tour) Oh and The Death Of You And Me was written in Scotland, wasn't it? He said that recently. It does my head in when I know something, but can't find it back. |
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