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Post by andrewmattcoles on Jan 5, 2016 15:51:56 GMT -5
I was just coming here to basically song praises for listen up after this mornings commute to work where i gave Liam's original vox and Noel's acoustic performances both x3 back to back listens. The song is bloody amazing In both arrangements and I cany fault it. A real example of why oasis are the best ever. The dimension both Liam and Noel give is just awesome. Not even Lennon and McCartney. Noel singing liam songs work better than if Paul sang john songs IMO Noel wrote it, Paul didn't write John's songs. I think that could make the difference. I hear you...but i don't known of many Beatles songs with a rocky version vs semi acoustic that translate equally as powerful in both arrangements (regardless of the singer)
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 5, 2016 16:54:22 GMT -5
Noel wrote it, Paul didn't write John's songs. I think that could make the difference. I hear you...but i don't known of many Beatles songs with a rocky version vs semi acoustic that translate equally as powerful in both arrangements (regardless of the singer) That's because they never performed them in a different way
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jan 5, 2016 17:16:16 GMT -5
What is Liam usually doing while Noel is singing Don't Look Back In Anger on stage ?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 5, 2016 17:28:44 GMT -5
What is Liam usually doing while Noel is singing Don't Look Back In Anger on stage ? Smoking, peeing, a quickie.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 5, 2016 19:39:08 GMT -5
Some Oasis songs I've recently grown to appreciate:
Sunday Morning Call: Yes, it's fucking depressing and about a minute too long. But that's the point. It represents a more honest side of Oasis that's hardly ever seen on any of their albums. In fact I would've preferred of SOTSOG had ditched the more madferit songs and included more introspective tunes like this.
Hung in a Bad Place: Should've been done justice by giving it the BHN treatment. Listen to those riffs, there's a massive tune in there somewhere! It's just ruined by terrible production. One of Gem's best.
The Meaning of Soul: Great short track, love Liam's delivery and the guitar scratches at the end. Second best LAG song on DBTT.
Ain't Got Nothin': Yes, Liam's written this song fifty bajillion times, but when the feedback and the screaming come in, it's one of the most terrifying moments in Oasis. And the fact that the song shuts the door in your face makes it even more ominous.
Soldier On: This is one of the most unique songs in Oasis, innit? Eerie echoes, haunting melodica that is reminiscent of Champagne Supernova (though the context couldn't be more different!). The feedback at the end makes this the most apocalyptic song ever written by Liam Gallagher.
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Post by mkoasis on Jan 5, 2016 21:28:21 GMT -5
Some Oasis songs I've recently grown to appreciate: Sunday Morning Call: Yes, it's fucking depressing and about a minute too long. But that's the point. It represents a more honest side of Oasis that's hardly ever seen on any of their albums. In fact I would've preferred of SOTSOG had ditched the more madferit songs and included more introspective tunes like this. Hung in a Bad Place: Should've been done justice by giving it the BHN treatment. Listen to those riffs, there's a massive tune in there somewhere! It's just ruined by terrible production. One of Gem's best. The Meaning of Soul: Great short track, love Liam's delivery and the guitar scratches at the end. Second best LAG song on DBTT. Ain't Got Nothin': Yes, Liam's written this song fifty bajillion times, but when the feedback and the screaming come in, it's one of the most terrifying moments in Oasis. And the fact that the song shuts the door in your face makes it even more ominous. Soldier On: This is one of the most unique songs in Oasis, innit? Eerie echoes, haunting melodica that is reminiscent of Champagne Supernova (though the context couldn't be more different!). The feedback at the end makes this the most apocalyptic song ever written by Liam Gallagher. Glad to hear you're enjoying them too. We see things they'll never see!
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 5, 2016 23:27:06 GMT -5
BHN is the bizarre cousin of The Verve's Urban Hymns, or a cross between Urban Hymns and The Stone Roses Second Coming.
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Post by Aman on Jan 6, 2016 4:29:39 GMT -5
Tbh, I've never had a massive problem with The Meaning Of Soul as most Oasis fans do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 4:53:17 GMT -5
The SOTSOG era is probably my favorite Oasis era.
I would like to hear a Be Here Now version of Digsy's Dinner.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 6, 2016 6:12:20 GMT -5
BHN is the bizarre cousin of The Verve's Urban Hymns, or a cross between Urban Hymns and The Stone Roses Second Coming. yeah, it's definitely got quite a bit of Second Coming in it.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 6, 2016 6:13:00 GMT -5
What is Liam usually doing while Noel is singing Don't Look Back In Anger on stage ? Or whom...
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 6, 2016 6:21:48 GMT -5
I've always found Magic Pie to be the track to bridge the sound between Oasis of old and SOTSOG. Obviously the production is very different, but it wouldn't take much for it to fit quite snuggly alongside tracks like Where Did It All Go Wrong? and Sunday Morning Call. Being the last track written for Be Here Now probably has something to do with this.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jan 6, 2016 6:28:42 GMT -5
I've always found Magic Pie to be the track to bridge the sound between Oasis of old and SOTSOG. Obviously the production is very different, but it wouldn't take much for it to fit quite snuggly alongside tracks like Where Did It All Go Wrong? and Sunday Morning Call. Being the last track written for Be Here Now probably has something to do with this. Definitely agree with that. Maybe that's why Noel bigged it up so much in 1997? Reassuring himself that this new era of his songwriting was as good as what had come before it. Which of course it probably wasn't!
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 6, 2016 9:28:26 GMT -5
I've always found Magic Pie to be the track to bridge the sound between Oasis of old and SOTSOG. Obviously the production is very different, but it wouldn't take much for it to fit quite snuggly alongside tracks like Where Did It All Go Wrong? and Sunday Morning Call. Being the last track written for Be Here Now probably has something to do with this. Funny how you mention this, because I was thinking the other day about how Flashbax was, lyrically, very similar to songs like Where Did It All Go Wrong and Sunday Morning Call from the SOTSOG era! And if I remember correctly, Flashbax wasn't written until after BHN was released. So perhaps it is another candidate for the "missing link" between Oasis mark I and mark II.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 9:40:28 GMT -5
My thought of the day regarding oasis. If the 1980s me listened to it , he would have slapped the 1990s me silly I'm not joking. I can listen to LED Zep from the 70s. Van Halen from the 80 s and still crank it. But wonderwall Dlbia ? I'm thinking too many drugs ....at best a c list band on my top 100. And I'm being honest
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 6, 2016 9:54:18 GMT -5
I've always found Magic Pie to be the track to bridge the sound between Oasis of old and SOTSOG. Obviously the production is very different, but it wouldn't take much for it to fit quite snuggly alongside tracks like Where Did It All Go Wrong? and Sunday Morning Call. Being the last track written for Be Here Now probably has something to do with this. Funny how you mention this, because I was thinking the other day about how was, lyrically, very similar to songs like Where Did It All Go Wrong and Sunday Morning Call from the SOTSOG era! And if I remember correctly, Flashbax wasn't written until after BHN was released. So perhaps it is another candidate for the "missing link" between Oasis mark I and mark II. Yeah that's another good shout. Infact if I didn't know any better I'd have actually guessed it was from the SOTSOG era. For some reason the gap between Be Here Now & SOTSOG seems like a gulf, but it really isn't when you think about it. I still can't quite get my head around how short of a time span it was between between writing 'the classics' and the stuff from SOTSOG era though.
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Post by Gas Panic on Jan 6, 2016 10:19:52 GMT -5
Funny how you mention this, because I was thinking the other day about how was, lyrically, very similar to songs like Where Did It All Go Wrong and Sunday Morning Call from the SOTSOG era! And if I remember correctly, Flashbax wasn't written until after BHN was released. So perhaps it is another candidate for the "missing link" between Oasis mark I and mark II. Yeah that's another good shout. Infact if I didn't know any better I'd have actually guessed it was from the SOTSOG era. For some reason the gap between Be Here Now & SOTSOG seems like a gulf, but it really isn't when you think about it. I still can't quite get my head around how short of a time span it was between between writing 'the classics' and the stuff from SOTSOG era though. Teotihuacan is another more obvious track that bridges classic Oasis with oasis mark 2. In fact I'd say that it actually is the definitive arrival of the new glum era
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Post by spaneli on Jan 6, 2016 13:44:13 GMT -5
i've gone from intensely hating High Horse Lady, to really liking it. Really fits well within DOYS.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 6, 2016 13:52:05 GMT -5
Today I woke up with a medley of I Believe in All and Those Swollen Hand Blues stuck in my head.
Today is gonna be one of THOSE days.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 13:54:30 GMT -5
i've gone from intensely hating High Horse Lady, to really liking it. Really fits well within DOYS. I like it but its clearly B side material and from what Ive read was originally intended to be so until record machine didnt get finished and so HHL was put on the album, wouldve liked to have heard it live even only once or twice, couldve been quite good.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 6, 2016 13:56:16 GMT -5
i've gone from intensely hating High Horse Lady, to really liking it. Really fits well within DOYS. I like it but its clearly B side material and from what Ive read was originally intended to be so until record machine didnt get finished and so HHL was put on the album, wouldve liked to have heard it live even only once or twice, couldve been quite good. Intense clapping sessions during the gigs
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 14:12:26 GMT -5
I like it but its clearly B side material and from what Ive read was originally intended to be so until record machine didnt get finished and so HHL was put on the album, wouldve liked to have heard it live even only once or twice, couldve been quite good. Intense clapping sessions during the gigs wasnt it soundchecked somewhere? or did I dream that?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 6, 2016 14:33:28 GMT -5
Intense clapping sessions during the gigs wasnt it soundchecked somewhere? or did I dream that? I'm not sure about that. They did soundcheck The Turning and Gas Panic! though, which would have worked well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 15:02:52 GMT -5
wasnt it soundchecked somewhere? or did I dream that? I'm not sure about that. They did soundcheck The Turning and Gas Panic! though, which would have worked well. almost certain it was at least mentioned it was rehearsed like let there be love, cant remember, been a few songs mentioned over time like some might say on the DOYS tour but Liam couldnt manage it I heard somewhere.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 6, 2016 15:10:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that. They did soundcheck The Turning and Gas Panic! though, which would have worked well. almost certain it was at least mentioned it was rehearsed like let there be love, cant remember, been a few songs mentioned over time like some might say on the DOYS tour but Liam couldnt manage it I heard somewhere. They dropped it in either 2000 or 2002. Liam couldn't hit the notes in the chorus anymore. Wasn't that the Jools performance? Can't find out as I can't listen to anything right now. Anyway, if he couldn't hit the notes back then he would definitely not have been able to hit them in 2008.
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