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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 2, 2016 12:58:52 GMT -5
In what universe is Stay Young "dire"? Bonkers. Dire is probably not the right word, but it's terribly annoying. Dire definitely wasn't the right word, and I don't think much of your reassessment of "terribly annoying" either... Fabulous pop song.
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Post by Aman on Jan 2, 2016 13:00:23 GMT -5
Different opinions and that.
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Post by andybellwillring on Jan 2, 2016 13:01:57 GMT -5
In what universe is Be Here Now "the worst song"? Bonkers. In my opinion. Which no one has to like or agree with. You don't like Cast No Shadow, which is one of my favourite Oasis songs, but I'm not bashing you for that, am I? I might do it.. I do respect your opinion, can understand why one wouldn't like it (it's quite silly, really).
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 2, 2016 13:06:23 GMT -5
In what universe is Stay Young "dire"? Bonkers. Dire is probably not the right word, but it's terribly annoying. Something's shaken yer faith. Fuck off. Brilliant song.
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Post by Aman on Jan 2, 2016 13:13:47 GMT -5
I just really hate it. The chorus ffs. Urgh.
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Post by Aman on Jan 2, 2016 13:19:44 GMT -5
Be Here Now is better tbh, despite being much maligned.
KICKING UP A STORM, FROM THE DAY THAT I WAS BORN.
Believe.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 2, 2016 15:19:56 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Stand By Me, Don't Go Away, Stay Young, The Girl In The Dirty Shirt and (to a slightly lesser extent) All Around The World are all lame or is it just me? Occasionally I'll hear someone take a shot at one or two of them but I don't recall anyone else not caring for the full set. I've recently started to like Don't Go Away and dislike Stand By Me, which used to be the other way around. Stand By Me now sounds a bit whiny to me, well the chorus. I still like the verses a lot. Anyway, those two are both completely ruined by the excessive use of FUCKING LOUD GUITARS. Don't Go Away has such a lovely instrumental buried in the mix, very Bacharach like, as we could hear in the OOPS thread. I love All Around The World and it's mega ongoing coke fest. The other two are alright, I'm a bit neutral on those. Yeah, absolutely. Clearly I'm in the minority but I'd loosely describe the whole lot as a bunch of whiny, tasteless, dreariness, tediously drawn-out over what feels like a millenia. Not the so called outrageous fun many claim it all to be. Be Here Now is cherished for it's madness, but more often than not madness leads to stupidity and the Be Here Now era reeks of it. If people had doubts about Oasis then Be Here Now confirmed it for them a thousand times over. As unfairly flippant as it is, it's no real wonder as to why Noel dismisses it all. " It's the sound of a bunch of guys, on coke, in the studio, not giving a fuck" indeed.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 2, 2016 15:56:21 GMT -5
People widely take the piss out of tracks like The Nature Of Reality and I Can See A Liar for shit lyrics, but that first verse of Stand By Me is surely no less of joke? Why does Noel get away with that one? Unless you think otherwise surely a Stand By Me Fan can't use bad lyrics as an argument with any real weight behind it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 17:03:27 GMT -5
People widely take the piss out of tracks like The Nature Of Reality and I Can See A Liar for shit lyrics, but that first verse of Stand By Me is surely no less of joke? Why does Noel get away with that one? Unless you think otherwise surely a Stand By Me Fan can't use bad lyrics as an argument with any real weight behind it. I never been a huge fan of stand by me as a whole tbh, the chorus is abit lackluster and it goes on too long, I like the "the way its gonna be yeaaa"s towards the end the most, I personally wouldve rather of heard something else on the SOTSOG tour from BHN. as for the first verse I dont think people really give it a pass ive seen people mention it often enough.
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Post by Johnny Rhythm on Jan 2, 2016 17:08:41 GMT -5
I love blaring out stay young think it's great, a bit poppy yeah but who cares
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 17:14:07 GMT -5
Let's face it, Be Here Now is not a good album. But we fucking love it because we are still madferit
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 3, 2016 7:00:53 GMT -5
Let's face it, Be Here Now is not a good album. But we fucking love it because we are still madferit That kind of talk can lead to the salem BHN heresy judges mystoryisgory and @beherenowisbiblical wanting a word...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2016 8:38:47 GMT -5
As I'm literally sitting here drinking at 8:29 am us eastern Reading this , the first thing I think about when thinking of Oasis. Is the PRINCESS ....... I LOVED DIANA to me she will always be the princess I'll never forget the night she passed I cried like a baby for a couple of days ....... I was one of those that got up at 1 am in NYC to stay up to watch the wedding ...... And when she died the whole of England seemed to die at least partially ....if you weren't there you'll never understand ...... And it makes me think. How different would that lp have been received. , reviewed , had Diana not gotten into that car ......... I think the uk would have kept the spirit of Britannia going. BHN would have been bigger than Wtsmg. And the party would have continued .......it's amazing and sad what the death of one person could change a a bands fate And Diana did that .......
May she rest in peace
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 4, 2016 1:52:17 GMT -5
Let's face it: HC is a halfway decent album in desperate need of good production. The Hindu Times could rock more. The ugly mess at the end of Force of Nature could be massive and chaotic. Hung in a Bad Place could've been every bit as awesome and coked out as BHN. Stop Crying Your Heart Out could've had more emotional gravity to make it a beautiful piece of music. And so on. (There's no saving PAITM and She Is Love though. ) But as it stands right now, HC is somewhat enjoyable on good days, and unlistenable on pretty much every other day of the year.
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Post by Riverman on Jan 4, 2016 6:26:26 GMT -5
sausages
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Jan 4, 2016 14:50:37 GMT -5
If we keep talking about the BHN reissue do we increase the chances of someone from the management team / record companies stumbling across our demands. Sadly I doubt it!!!!!
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Post by AllThePlasticPeople on Jan 4, 2016 22:38:53 GMT -5
Going Nowhere is an absolutely fantastic song.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Jan 4, 2016 22:49:20 GMT -5
If we keep talking about the BHN reissue do we increase the chances of someone from the management team / record companies stumbling across our demands. Sadly I doubt it!!!!! No given the decisions they have made in the past, which I am sure were governed by chaos theory on more than one occasion, they will probably pull it on the grounds that they "can't see sufficient demand" before releasing another best of to go with STC and TF
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Post by Jack on Jan 5, 2016 2:13:55 GMT -5
'Flashbax' is probably the most 'nothingy' Oasis song. I neither like it or despise it, but I don't think I'll listen to it again. It feels like it was written and recorded just for the sake of it.
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Post by Jack on Jan 5, 2016 2:19:03 GMT -5
'I'm Outta Time' (Remix) > 'I'm Outta Time' (Album Version)
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Post by Cast on Jan 5, 2016 12:47:31 GMT -5
Fuckin' In the Bushes
An incredible song. I wasn't an Oasis fan in 2000, so I didn't hear this in context of its release but that one-two punch of FITB and Go Let it Out slays. SOTSOG will always have a special place in my heart. It has its fair share of flaws, but when they nailed what they were trying to do, it sounded like Oasis should have in the 2000's. Lush, groovy, and psychedelic but melodic.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 5, 2016 12:58:30 GMT -5
Fuckin' In the Bushes An incredible song. I wasn't an Oasis fan in 2000, so I didn't hear this in context of its release but that one-two punch of FITB and Go Let it Out slays. SOTSOG will always have a special place in my heart. It has its fair share of flaws, but when they nailed what they were trying to do, it sounded like Oasis should have in the 2000's. Lush, groovy, and psychedelic but melodic. My only regret with the song is that Oasis never attempted it live. If Jimi Hendrix and his band could do it in 1967, Oasis could have done it in 2000. Plus Swamp Song has a million things going on in that tune and they nailed live every time.
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Post by glider on Jan 5, 2016 13:23:38 GMT -5
"Sonically, 'Listen Up' offers another textbook example of the shoegaze/grunge synthesis. The song begins with the (by-now classic) McCarroll hip-hop drum intro before plunging into a swirl of power chords and phaser-smothered guitar overdubs. There is a desperate, bleak quality to the whole of 'Listen Up', which has the feel of a garage band struggling - and succeeding - to create a sound of panoramic grandeur and soul. But the most striking moment in the song occurs in the bridge section where, over a descending chord sequence, Liam Gallagher howls a sudden, stabbing lyrical fragment that imagines a day when he can leave everyone behind once and for all." (From Alex Niven's book on Definitely Maybe)
Listen Up is awesome. It's one of those songs that gives you the same great feeling, with each listen, as when the brilliance of the song first occurred in your mind. It's slowly crept into my top 10, but I think it has a solid spot in it after a good listening session on Sunday. The loud production really works on this song, and the way it's such a hazy mess makes everything a lot better with how you can get lost in those sweet-sounding guitars that swirl throughout the whole song. I can't imagine Listen Up without the brickwall production, but I'd love to hear a more dynamic version of it.
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Post by andrewmattcoles on Jan 5, 2016 15:43:27 GMT -5
Listen Up is awesome. It's one of those songs that gives you the same great feeling, with each listen, as when the brilliance of the song first occurred in your mind. It's slowly crept into my top 10, but I think it has a solid spot in it after a good listening session on Sunday. The loud production really works on this song, and the way it's such a hazy mess makes everything a lot better with how you can get lost in those sweet-sounding guitars that swirl throughout the whole song. I can't imagine Listen Up without the brickwall production, but I'd love to hear a more dynamic version of it. I was just coming here to basically song praises for listen up after this mornings commute to work where i gave Liam's original vox and Noel's acoustic performances both x3 back to back listens. The song is bloody amazing In both arrangements and I cany fault it. A real example of why oasis are the best ever. The dimension both Liam and Noel give is just awesome. Not even Lennon and McCartney. Noel singing liam songs work better than if Paul sang john songs IMO
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 5, 2016 15:46:15 GMT -5
I can't imagine Listen Up without the brickwall production, but I'd love to hear a more dynamic version of it. I was just coming here to basically song praises for listen up after this mornings commute to work where i gave Liam's original vox and Noel's acoustic performances both x3 back to back listens. The song is bloody amazing In both arrangements and I cany fault it. A real example of why oasis are the best ever. The dimension both Liam and Noel give is just awesome. Not even Lennon and McCartney. Noel singing liam songs work better than if Paul sang john songs IMO Noel wrote it, Paul didn't write John's songs. I think that could make the difference.
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