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Post by garylineker on May 11, 2022 19:02:09 GMT -5
God knows why though as Sardy is a terrible producer and I'm glad that he didn't work with Noel on his second album. What I’d say is that on he has peaks and valleys on Oasis or Oasis-related work more than any other producer. Really thought he got the three singles on DOYS sounding great, while some of Noel’s 1st album had great songs sound like plodding dad-rock. So I think he can be good but is just too inconsistent. Agreed. The Shock Of The Lightning and a lot of DOYS is easily their best sounding stuff post 1995 and exactly the sound they should have been aiming to progress going forward. As much as i do like DBTT, it was never going to be praised for the instrumentals or any kind of progressiveness - more just a much better album than the previous 2. DOYS had every right to be praised for its sounds and i think despite lack of obvious singles and poorer output from LAG - it had great ideas for a band at that stage in their career. Of course this could have more to do with Noel than Sardy. But we can't give the man absolutely no praise at all. Every Oasis and Noel album he worked on was undeniably a success.
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Post by Headmaster on May 11, 2022 20:39:03 GMT -5
Funny that Sardy played safe on DBTT but on the other hand he pushed the band in a new direction with DOYS, I like how he went to Noel and asked him to do something different this time, kudos to him. DOYS is a strange album cos it's the one that doesn't sound like "britpop", well apart from I'm Outta Time.
Interesting that Noel would do something different musically only if the producer pushed him to do so, like Spike Stent on SOTSOG, Dave Sardy on DOYS and David Holmes on WBTM?.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on May 12, 2022 7:34:01 GMT -5
Funny that Sardy played safe on DBTT but on the other hand he pushed the band in a new direction with DOYS, I like how he went to Noel and asked him to do something different this time, kudos to him. DOYS is a strange album cos it's the one that doesn't sound like "britpop", well apart from I'm Outta Time. Interesting that Noel would do something different musically only if the producer pushed him to do so, like Spike Stent on SOTSOG, Dave Sardy on DOYS and David Holmes on WBTM?. What you have to remember is Sardy didnt produce some of Noels tunes on DBTT like IOBI and Lyla, he only mixed them. Noel produced those. Which I think also shows how a mixer only has what theyre given to work with. Like how Spike mixed HC and it sounds pretty boring, yet he’d also mixed SOTSOG, which despite inconsistent songwriting sounds pretty cool IMO.
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Post by tiger40 on May 12, 2022 13:10:51 GMT -5
God knows why though as Sardy is a terrible producer and I'm glad that he didn't work with Noel on his second album. What I’d say is that he has peaks and valleys on Oasis or Oasis-related work more than any other producer. Really thought he got the three singles on DOYS sounding great, while some of Noel’s 1st album had great songs sound like plodding dad-rock. So I think he can be good but is just too inconsistent. Yeah, that's true (even though I'm not a big fan of the studio version of I'm Outta Time). And, as for the songs on Noel's first album, I liked most of the songs but Sardy definitely ruined them with his production on them for me and that's why I've always preferred the demo versions.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 12, 2022 14:49:46 GMT -5
Funny that Sardy played safe on DBTT but on the other hand he pushed the band in a new direction with DOYS, I like how he went to Noel and asked him to do something different this time, kudos to him. DOYS is a strange album cos it's the one that doesn't sound like "britpop", well apart from I'm Outta Time. Interesting that Noel would do something different musically only if the producer pushed him to do so, like Spike Stent on SOTSOG, Dave Sardy on DOYS and David Holmes on WBTM?. What you have to remember is Sardy didnt produce some of Noels tunes on DBTT like IOBI and Lyla, he only mixed them. Noel produced those. Which I think also shows how a mixer only has what theyre given to work with. Like how Spike mixed HC and it sounds pretty boring, yet he’d also mixed SOTSOG, which despite inconsistent songwriting sounds pretty cool IMO. It’s scary to think how bad DBTT could have been before Noel added Lyla and The Importance of Being Idle after record executives were worried the album had no commercial singles. Then toss in it was Sardy who told Noel to add Let There Be Love. Those were all the albums singles!!!!! What the hell were they gonna push? Mucky Fingers and Meaning of Soul? We dodged a huge bullet in 2005.
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Post by Headmaster on May 12, 2022 15:25:46 GMT -5
Funny that Sardy played safe on DBTT but on the other hand he pushed the band in a new direction with DOYS, I like how he went to Noel and asked him to do something different this time, kudos to him. DOYS is a strange album cos it's the one that doesn't sound like "britpop", well apart from I'm Outta Time. Interesting that Noel would do something different musically only if the producer pushed him to do so, like Spike Stent on SOTSOG, Dave Sardy on DOYS and David Holmes on WBTM?. What you have to remember is Sardy didnt produce some of Noels tunes on DBTT like IOBI and Lyla, he only mixed them. Noel produced those. Which I think also shows how a mixer only has what theyre given to work with. Like how Spike mixed HC and it sounds pretty boring, yet he’d also mixed SOTSOG, which despite inconsistent songwriting sounds pretty cool IMO. Yes there was this little problem too, the songs Sardy produced sounded unfinished and rushed, definitely needed more time and polishment, on the other hand the Noel produced tracks they sound good actually, tighter, even if Noel wasn't pushing any boundaries musically. I mean there is a clear difference in sound quality between TIOBI/Lyla/Part Of The Queue and Love Like a Bomb/Meaning Of Soul/KTDA, the uneven production is very evident, Noel should have produced the other tracks as well.
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Post by underneaththesky on May 13, 2022 8:31:06 GMT -5
ALL AROUND THE WORLD
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Post by supertronic on May 13, 2022 9:05:32 GMT -5
YOU GOTTA SPREAD THE WORD
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Post by Manualex on May 13, 2022 15:15:50 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 13, 2022 16:48:44 GMT -5
I can’t think of an England without the brothers Gallagher. Legends.
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Post by mkoasis on May 14, 2022 1:25:31 GMT -5
I was listening to Time Flies today. As much as the first disc is loaded with classics, I find I enjoy the second disc more. Why? I think it flows better, in terms of one song to another. But also, apart from Some Might Say and Whatever, it’s entirely made up of post 96 material. All stuff they made after they were forgotten by many or deemed irrelevant.
To me, that makes the tunes even more impressive. The first is full of classics everyone knows. But the second, to me anyways, shows that this band had a lot more in them worth listening to after their glory years. Was the material as iconic, life changing, timeless as the early stuff? No. But it doesn’t matter. I love it and really enjoy listening to this compilation of later years material.
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Post by tiger40 on May 14, 2022 12:57:20 GMT -5
I was listening to Time Flies today. As much as the first disc is loaded with classics, I find I enjoy the second disc more. Why? I think it flows better, in terms of one song to another. But also, apart from Some Might Say and Whatever, it’s entirely made up of post 96 material. All stuff they made after they were forgotten by many or deemed irrelevant. To me, that makes the tunes even more impressive. The first is full of classics everyone knows. But the second, to me anyways, shows that this band had a lot more in them worth listening to after their glory years. Was the material as iconic, life changing, timeless as the early stuff? No. But it doesn’t matter. I love it and really enjoy listening to this compilation of later years material. I haven't listened to that album for ages.
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Post by rockrevival on May 14, 2022 14:39:08 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me why/how this weird cult of parka wearing,bowlcut sporting, Liam walk-a-like dudes formed around Oasis?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 15, 2022 7:18:50 GMT -5
There are many things that you’d like to say to me, but you don’t know how.
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Post by garylineker on May 15, 2022 9:01:39 GMT -5
I was listening to Time Flies today. As much as the first disc is loaded with classics, I find I enjoy the second disc more. Why? I think it flows better, in terms of one song to another. But also, apart from Some Might Say and Whatever, it’s entirely made up of post 96 material. All stuff they made after they were forgotten by many or deemed irrelevant. To me, that makes the tunes even more impressive. The first is full of classics everyone knows. But the second, to me anyways, shows that this band had a lot more in them worth listening to after their glory years. Was the material as iconic, life changing, timeless as the early stuff? No. But it doesn’t matter. I love it and really enjoy listening to this compilation of later years material. I feel sorry for people who don't know about all the songs after 96. It seems to have just been something that's stuck because people have said it so many times. Oh they didn't do anything good after the first 2 albums. Anyone who knows Oasis even a bit knows this is absolute bullshit. I bet anyones top 20 oasis songs feature at least 5 songs post 96
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Post by tiger40 on May 15, 2022 13:07:49 GMT -5
I was listening to Time Flies today. As much as the first disc is loaded with classics, I find I enjoy the second disc more. Why? I think it flows better, in terms of one song to another. But also, apart from Some Might Say and Whatever, it’s entirely made up of post 96 material. All stuff they made after they were forgotten by many or deemed irrelevant. To me, that makes the tunes even more impressive. The first is full of classics everyone knows. But the second, to me anyways, shows that this band had a lot more in them worth listening to after their glory years. Was the material as iconic, life changing, timeless as the early stuff? No. But it doesn’t matter. I love it and really enjoy listening to this compilation of later years material. I feel sorry for people who don't know about all the songs after 96. It seems to have just been something that's stuck because people have said it so many times. Oh they didn't do anything good after the first 2 albums. Anyone who knows Oasis even a bit knows this is absolute bullshit. I bet anyones top 20 oasis songs feature at least 5 songs post 96 Agreed.
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Post by tiger40 on May 17, 2022 13:12:36 GMT -5
On the 16th May Oasis released their first single from the Don’t Believe The Truth album, Lyla.
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Post by celestialsunrise03 on May 18, 2022 8:58:25 GMT -5
I know that people often site the existing earls court 97 pro shot stuff as dubbed with Hammerstein Ballroom is there a posdibility that this version is the real deal as it doesnt sound like Hammerstein Ballroom
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Post by welshylad on May 18, 2022 9:19:13 GMT -5
I know that people often site the existing earls court 97 pro shot stuff as dubbed with Hammerstein Ballroom is there a posdibility that this version is the real deal as it doesnt sound like Hammerstein Ballroom That audio is 100% from Hammerstein Ballroom I actually have that video with the proper (audience) recording over the top of it. Noelsoasis kindly made it
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Post by celestialsunrise03 on May 18, 2022 10:34:11 GMT -5
I know that people often site the existing earls court 97 pro shot stuff as dubbed with Hammerstein Ballroom is there a posdibility that this version is the real deal as it doesnt sound like Hammerstein Ballroom That audio is 100% from Hammerstein Ballroom I actually have that video with the proper (audience) recording over the top of it. Noelsoasis kindly made it My mistake XD it just didnt sound like it to my ears perhaps I should listen to it again
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Post by matt on May 18, 2022 13:21:17 GMT -5
I can’t think of an England without the brothers Gallagher. Legends. I can, because they're both Irish.
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Post by garylineker on May 19, 2022 16:31:34 GMT -5
I can’t think of an England without the brothers Gallagher. Legends. I can, because they're both Irish.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 23, 2022 16:48:20 GMT -5
"It's about getting a bottle of cider with your mates, sticking on a Beatles album, talking shite, puking up, meeting strange girls, and maybe having sex. It's about escaping." - Noel Gallagher discussing Definitely Maybe, 1994. #MadFerIt
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Post by girllikeabomb on May 24, 2022 4:09:33 GMT -5
Do you ever think that sometimes Noel hears Liam sing now and whispers very quietly to himself, just idly, not so anyone would ever notice, I could write such a cracker of a song that you and only you would get ...
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Post by supertronic on May 25, 2022 12:50:28 GMT -5
Sudden realisation that I don't own a copy of Take Me Away. What am I doing!?
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